Racing The Everest - 2022

[iluvparis]

INVINCIBLE STAR was that Gai horse - got its slot early September after getting rolled twice at 6/4 and then was swapped out after getting flogged in the Premiere literally two weeks later.

 

[BuddysBiggestFan]

Yes Yes Yes started favorite after beating nothing

 

[iluvparis]

Yes Yes Yes started favorite after beating nothing

If by fave you mean $9 then yes...you are correct.

 

[FallingLiefs]

I'd be more keen on Artorius in a Cox Plate.

 

[iluvparis]

GYTRASH selected by Inglis - makes sense if he is back to his best when he was top 2/3 in the country but must be MASSIVE question marks whether that is actually the case off his two runs this prep

 

[54Dogs]

So it's

Squib
CL
Masked Crusader
Gytrash
Lost and Running


Who are the other options?

Anamoe
Stay Inside
Ed


A bit limited for choice. Is Roth on the way back?

 

[iluvparis]

So it's

Squib
CL
Masked Crusader
Gytrash
Lost and Running


Who are the other options?

Anamoe
Stay Inside
Ed


A bit limited for choice. Is Roth on the way back?

It is looming very much like the TJ with the top 3 older horses flogging the rest. Any half decent 3yo that runs a half good race early will probably be snapped up (Profiteer, Enthaar etc)

Apparently Ayrton is on a Golden Eagle path so he can run in it I guess

 

[54Dogs]

Yeah there's a few hype trains around that might get picked up if they start the spring well. Good 3yos, Orbison, Aryton, that thing from WA. Especially with an open get out of jail free card to all

 

[iluvparis]

Shows how piss poor the ranks are when a midweek class 3 horse from Queensland is being talked up for it

 

[FallingLiefs]

Yeah there's a few hype trains around that might get picked up if they start the spring well. Good 3yos, Orbison, Aryton, that thing from WA. Especially with an open get out of jail free card to all

WA has an everest contender now? What have I missed. I cant recall seeing many group class 2/3yos.

 

[54Dogs]

WA has an everest contender now? What have I missed. I cant recall seeing many group class 2/3yos.

Didn't say contender, said possible runner

What's that hype thing you guys have got that starts at 1.30 all the time, Clairvoyant?

 

[FallingLiefs]

Didn't say contender, said possible runner

What's that hype thing you guys have got that starts at 1.30 all the time, Clairvoyant?

Ah yes, Clairvoyance. Had regressed heavily last prep having some serious issues. Won't be travelling this year i'd have thought. Definitely will not be up in time for an Everest. At this stage most are hoping she can get back somewhere close to where she was.

 

[54Dogs]

Ah yes, Clairvoyance. Had regressed heavily last prep having some serious issues. Won't be travelling this year i'd have thought. Definitely will not be up in time for an Everest. At this stage most are hoping she can get back somewhere close to where she was.

Cheers.

Gp1 level if it does come back well?

 

[FallingLiefs]

Cheers.

Gp1 level if it does come back well?

Basically you have to forecast improvement and in general a sound and well horse would make the improvement to G1 level easily but have no idea where she is at. Her best without improvement,maturing etc is G2 level. From November before injuries and her bad prep:

Clairvoyance is probably the best horse in the state but with a caveat of that being 2 months ago over 1000m. She basically hasn't improved since second career start and these spring 3yo's generally don't hold up and her ratings are not at open class level yet without the weight allowance.

 

[iluvparis]

The Everest 2021: Cummings wants Libertini first-up in $15m feature

Trainer Anthony Cummings is devising an audacious plan to run star mare Libertini first-up in The Everest later this year.

www.punters.com.au

Imagine the cajones you'd need to take an Anthony Cummings horse first up in a race like this

 

[54Dogs]

The Everest 2021: Cummings wants Libertini first-up in $15m feature

Trainer Anthony Cummings is devising an audacious plan to run star mare Libertini first-up in The Everest later this year.

www.punters.com.au

Imagine the cajones you'd need to take an Anthony Cummings horse first up in a race like this

Nah, zero risk with the get out of jail free card on offer

 

[iluvparis]

Nah, zero risk with the get out of jail free card on offer

Except first up you don't know if its going no good!!!!

Most overrated horse in the country right now anyway - outside that first up fluke last spring hasn't been within 3 lengths of the winner as an older horse at any other start.

 

[HeathySure]

Except first up you don't know if its going no good!!!!

Most overrated horse in the country right now anyway - outside that first up fluke last spring hasn't been within 3 lengths of the winner as an older horse at any other start.

Its a dry tracker and its best runs are fresh.

 

[TBellicious]

the problems with the everest concept become clearer each year

there are only two or three realistic winning chances such is the nature of our sprinting depth that many slot holders will get stuck with horses that cant win

long term surely completely unsustainable with so much money at risk

 

[iluvparis]

Its a dry tracker and its best runs are fresh.

All but one of those runs is on dry ground - next excuse please.

 

[iluvparis]

the problems with the everest concept become clearer each year

there are only two or three realistic winning chances such is the nature of our sprinting depth that many slot holders will get stuck with horses that cant win

long term surely completely unsustainable with so much money at risk

Plus the insane NSW bias and the free hit that Dogs mentioned.

Would be more interesting if instead of getting a free switch you had to take the emergencies.

 

[54Dogs]

Except first up you don't know if its going no good!!!!

Most overrated horse in the country right now anyway - outside that first up fluke last spring hasn't been within 3 lengths of the winner as an older horse at any other start.

I wouldn't take it with 20 picks but what difference does it make if they do. Can literally pull the pin and pick something else at any time with zero risk

 

[HeathySure]

All but one of those runs is on dry ground - next excuse please.

no excuse, you can write her off i dont care. Records there to be seen

 

[54Dogs]

If we could actually find independent selectors I would like to see an invite only field of 8 to keep the quality at least decent, similar to the Top Gun in dogs

 

[iluvparis]

no excuse, you can write her off i dont care. Records there to be seen

Exactly - a record showing only once has she been within 3 lengths of the winner as an older horse and outclassed in this and the TJ - a terrible choice on any metric