The Knock that made or destroyed a player.

[L_W_P]

I thought we were just talking about hip n shoulder type bumps, not full blown king hits and I wasn't alive 40 years ago so I can't put the O'Dea/Greening incident in context.

Hard to really pick something like that these days because it doesn't really happen. Barry Hall obviously had a few but he was still playing really well right until his last game. Not sure how Staker has ganoe since that night though...

 

[sherb]

We're getting a bit off track.

This isn't about the fairness of the hit, it's about the effect it had on the player - positive or negative.

Exactly.

That's why I found the absoluteness of comments such as "end thread" and "/thread" in relation to Greening's injury a bit odd when you have another chap who became a quadraplegic as a result of an on field collision.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Exactly.

That's why I found the absoluteness of comments such as "end thread" and "/thread" in relation to Greening's injury a bit odd when you have another chap who became a quadraplegic as a result of an on field collision.

Indeed.

Some players never recover physically, others go in to every contested situation with fear for their own safety and subsequently become lesser players.

I'm still looking for more nominations of hits that may've made a player. I'm certain theres more than just the few put forward so far.

 

[L_W_P]

Indeed.

Some players never recover physically, others go in to every contested situation with fear for their own safety and subsequently become lesser players.

I'm still looking for more nominations of hits that may've made a player. I'm certain theres more than just the few put forward so far.

Not to push any buttons but what about Milburn on SOS?

 

[Partridge]

Good get.

Really turned himself around, after a shakey start, but at the same time, I'm not sure the "bump" was a defining factor. Maybe just a hinderance to his development if anything?

Very difficult to say. Up until that game he'd only played as a forward, and had struggled. He played in defence that day and was playing easily the best game of his career. He still looked a fair way off it in 2009 in defence, but to his credit has improved incredibly since then.

 

[Partridge]

Mark Yeates on Brereton.
Didn't do the job properly and came out of it looking thuggish and weak.

No he didn't. Everyone who knew footy knew that Brereton cleaned him up behind the play earlier in the season. At the worst it was frontier justice. Given what Brereton did to say Danny Frawley the year before (knocked out behind the play) it's hard to argue he didn't deserve anything he got in return.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Mark Yeates on Brereton.
Didn't do the job properly and came out of it looking thuggish and weak.

Not sure how this applies to the thread? Or how anyone can look thuggish next to Brereton?

 

[pazza]

As for ending a player's career, whilst defining another..Rodney Grinter's coathanger on Terry Wallace.

 

[half_back_flank]

That's exactly what I said in reply to the post above mine. It neither 'destroyed' nor 'made' him. He was the same player before and after.

He wouldn't have left Sydney and won a couple of flags if it hadn't happened. May not have made him a better player, but it gave him more success.

 

[garygee]

David Neitz laid a hip and shoulder on Stewart Dew in Round 1 in 2008 that effectively ended his (Neit) career. His shoulders never recovered.

 

[bugalugs213]

Not sure how this applies to the thread? Or how anyone can look thuggish next to Brereton?

What did Yeats do after that? You want me to make it simpler?
Had the best shot he could have and couldn't keep the better player down.Pretty ****ing simple.

 

[The Teacher]

Can't contribute directly, but have a look at who is next to Dipper on the boundary .... none other than rugby league immortal Wally Lewis.

He has since said that this collision changed how he viewed Australian football.

 

[El_Scorcho]

It's almost certainly be posted already but Tyson Stenglein knocked out a young Port player by the name of Ben Eckermann who was showing some promise up until then with a heavy hit and Eckermann never recovered mentally. Even at SANFL level was stutter stepping into contests.

A couple of years later I played him in a cricket match and brought the incident to the attention of a few of my non-Port supporting teammates who preceded to encourage our opening bowler to "go through him like Stenglein did". Pretty rough sledge given that that effectively ended his career.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

What did Yeats do after that? You want me to make it simpler?
Had the best shot he could have and couldn't keep the better player down.Pretty ******* simple.

Yep, missed the point of the thread completely. Funny you're still so angsty about it though.

 

[Saint4Life]

I would of thought people would of said Aaron Hamil... sigh looked like nothing at the time either..

 

[Satan]

michael longs hit on troy symonds in 2000 gf, gutless act by long could have paralysed simmonds or worse

 

[Tayzer]

Michael Voss in the 2002 GF got a big hip and shoulder from Scott Burns, got straight back up and gave a quick handball to Simon Black who kicked a goal. Not many players get up from that sort of bump. Voss was already an established star at this point but it epitomised the hardness that he became renowned for.


Also Gary Moorcroft in 2001 took that incredible mark (which in my opinion is genuinely THE greatest mark in history) and actually broke his hip. He was never the same player since then.

 

[im_a_lazy_sod]

Not really a "knock", but I seem to recall Paul Haselby laying a heavy tackle on Brett Ratten, which stuffed up his shoulder and forced him to retire

Ratten had a lot of other injures, but that was the straw that broke the camels back so to speak

I also remember Picket KO'ing Crowley while he was playing for the Dees and he came back with a scrum cap on, he has come pretty far from then, as Picket wasn't really renowned as a career maker, more a career ender

 

[tribey]

It's almost certainly be posted already but Tyson Stenglein knocked out a young Port player by the name of Ben Eckermann who was showing some promise up until then with a heavy hit and Eckermann never recovered mentally. Even at SANFL level was stutter stepping into contests.

A couple of years later I played him in a cricket match and brought the incident to the attention of a few of my non-Port supporting teammates who preceded to encourage our opening bowler to "go through him like Stenglein did". Pretty rough sledge given that that effectively ended his career.

T'was Embley.

Fair way to debut my first ever plasma.

117 point loss and Eckermann went out quicker than a Clipsal Safety Switch.

 

[hawkman]

I wonder if the roughing up Franklin got after he bumped Cousins in 2006 had some influence. Seemed to really kick on after that game

 

[benji2]

Didn't Bob Skilton get knocked out by St Kilda's Eric Guy early in his career (around '56 or '57 I think)? He seemed to go OK after that. IIRC he said if he'd remembered the hit it might have killed his taste for the ball.

 

[moses]

T'was Embley.

Fair way to debut my first ever plasma.

117 point loss and Eckermann went out quicker than a Clipsal Safety Switch.

Was Stenglein
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2005-05-31/stenglein-handed-one-match-ban/1583298

 

[tribey]

Was Stenglein
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2005-05-31/stenglein-handed-one-match-ban/1583298

Sorry, that's right. I vividly remembered Embley stepping around Eckermann's head in the aftermath.



35 second mark.

 

[Jade's]

Leigh Matthews destroyed a lot of the hard work he had done throughout his career with his hit on Bruns

 

[muttley45]

micky martin stood on michael mitchells head after taking a mark, he was never the same again