Mega Thread The Mark Neeld Mega-Thread

[Hollow Knight]

Mike Sheahan needs to ask Roosy on the couch tonight if the AFL should give Melbourne some priority picks... His response should provide a pretty clear window into whether he has any intention of going for the job.

 

[Tigerland]

I find it hilarious that Robbo is on SEN talking about Jackson talking bluntly to the man he just sacked next to him. A "clinical kill" he said.
This comes from a man that has been writing Neeld's obituary for the last 3 months

Hypocrite or Hippopotamus? Or both?

 

[Duritz]

Because it is not itself a step in a different direction, it's just another sacking. A real step in a different direction would be loyalty, integrity, justice. This is just an absurd response to an absurd situation. People tend to like this kind of existential nonsense, but that's because people are predominantly stupid.

I dunno..... The fact remains that the club went backwards under neeld.... Further, they need to keep the players...... If they're of the opinion that he's lost the players..... Then their hand is forced.. Don't you think?

 

[Sttew]

Craig has a massive job ahead.

I am surprised Craig has been appointed interim coach. He is part of the problem.

 

[ablett]

You would hope Melbourne already have next years committed so he can sit back & analyse the current players list & make the required changes at seasons end instead wasting next season doing it.

Roos should be first on Melbournes list due to he will teach them a defensive game plan to stop blow outs, once they can keep teams to 12 goals or less they will starting winning games because they have a capable forward line.

I can see Sumich taking over as West Coast Eagles coach next season unless they have a big turnaround this season, Worsfold may go to Carlton as an assistant opposed to seeking the head coaching job somewhere else.
He's been an assistant at Carlton before.

 

[JackOutback]

Feel like the wrong person is wearing the consequences to some extent, but it's obvious they are doing a cleanout, and that meant he had to go. Fresh start for next year.

 

[happy_eagle]

I can see Sumich taking over as West Coast Eagles coach next season unless they have a big turnaround this season, Worsfold may go to Carlton as an assistant opposed to seeking the head coaching job somewhere else.
He's been an assistant at Carlton before.

If Worsfold leaves at the end of the year (which will only happen if he decides to), I'd say he would give up coaching altogether
12 years at one club is a long time

 

[Catgirl]

Wrong.

As I've said before, the Bailey sacking was maybe a mistake.

The Neeld sacking is the most obvious sack in my lifetime.

No I am not wrong.

I'm not surprised Neeld got sacked either. Your club has a recent history of making utterly stupid decisions.

Your current list of players seriously lack courage, commitment and desire. That's something a coach cannot teach, and obviously so, seeing as you have made no progress WHATSOEVER in the past few years. Melbourne right now are nothing short of disgusting, and if you want to shift the blame on a single coach, when week in and week out you can see 95% of your fielded team playing like lethargic, lazy idiots, then you are fooling yourself.

I'm sorry, but it is true. Your proud club is made a joke of by its current 22 (with the exception of a few players) and it is painful to watch.

 

[Roylion]

Even Fitzroy had more upside at times in 1996 than Melbourne did.

I'd rather be in Melbourne's position right now than Fitzroy's in 1995-1996.

Fitzroy had three senior coaches in two years. Bernie Quinlan coached for 19 rounds for two wins in 1995, Mike Nunan coached for 14 games for one win in 1996. Alan McConnell coached for 11 games for no wins.

Fitzroy directors, supporters and players knew that 1996 was their last year in the AFL from May of that year onwards.

 

[Major Colvin]

Feel sorry for Mark Neeld right now. He is a wonderful person and coach, just picked the wrong club and players.

And vice versa

 

[underthestars]

Smart timing. Fancy themselves a chance for a win this week against the saints, followed up with the doggies.
Al about he timing. No point sacking him and seeing the side get a thrashing straight up.

 

[Geddy Lee]

No I am not wrong.

I'm not surprised Neeld got sacked either. Your club has a recent history of making utterly stupid decisions.

Your current list of players seriously lack courage, commitment and desire. That's something a coach cannot teach, and obviously so, seeing as you have made no progress WHATSOEVER in the past few years. Melbourne right now are nothing short of disgusting, and if you want to shift the blame on a single coach, when week in and week out you can see 95% of your fielded team playing like lethargic, lazy idiots, then you are fooling yourself.

I'm sorry, but it is true. Your proud club is made a joke of by its current 22 (with the exception of a few players) and it is painful to watch.

A coach can't teach commitment and desire? FMD. You know nothing about the MFC and Mark Neeld - or sporting 'pain' for that matter - and I will not waste my time arguing with holier-than-thou Geelong supporters.

 

[Slax]

Mike Sheahan needs to ask Roosy on the couch tonight if the AFL should give Melbourne some priority picks... His response should provide a pretty clear window into whether he has any intention of going for the job.

If Roos knocked back the big financial offers that have been made to him by Freo, Carlton & GWS to name a few I can't see him being willing to take on the train wreak that is the Melbourne FC.

 

[Sttew]

If Worsfold leaves at the end of the year (which will only happen if he decides to), I'd say he would give up coaching altogether
12 years at one club is a long time

He's a pharmacist isn't he?

 

[Sttew]

And vice versa

What do you mean vice versa?

 

[Tippett2Goal]

You would hope Melbourne already have next years committed so he can sit back & analyse the current players list & make the required changes at seasons end instead wasting next season doing it.

Roos should be first on Melbournes list due to he will teach them a defensive game plan to stop blow outs, once they can keep teams to 12 goals or less they will starting winning games because they have a capable forward line.

I can see Sumich taking over as West Coast Eagles coach next season unless they have a big turnaround this season, Worsfold may go to Carlton as an assistant opposed to seeking the head coaching job somewhere else.
He's been an assistant at Carlton before.

Hard to see Woosha being satisfied being an assistant, especially under Malthouse.
I'd suspect it would be more likely that clubs would try poach Worsfold as a "director of coaching" ala Rodney Eade if he no longer wanted to be senior coach, but geez if he was available and wanted to be senior coach elsewhere, you'd think Melbourne should throw everything they've got at him.

He comes from a club who has had to dramatically alter its culture, and has overseen a fairly quick rebuild of his own side.

 

[tacopavlich]

And vice versa

 

[the distributer]

He had to go, the Dees went backwards under him believe it or not, they should try and appoint the new full time coach ASAP IMO, hopefully within 3 weeks, give him a chance to access when the **** he's bought into and implement his game plan before next season, i reckon that club is terminal though.

 

[Major Colvin]

No I am not wrong.

I'm not surprised Neeld got sacked either. Your club has a recent history of making utterly stupid decisions.

Your current list of players seriously lack courage, commitment and desire. That's something a coach cannot teach, and obviously so, seeing as you have made no progress WHATSOEVER in the past few years. Melbourne right now are nothing short of disgusting, and if you want to shift the blame on a single coach, when week in and week out you can see 95% of your fielded team playing like lethargic, lazy idiots, then you are fooling yourself.

I'm sorry, but it is true. Your proud club is made a joke of by its current 22 (with the exception of a few players) and it is painful to watch.

Can't sack the players, bottom line. Albiet the worst will get whats coming to them seasons end.

The team actually had a dip against Collingwood on the weekend. The the structures, skill level continuously kills us - it deflates the players and getting shit on every weekend is energy sapping. The players aren't good but Neeld's regime has made them worse - individually and as a team. How anyone can deny this ludicrous. The results speak for themselves.

Current group are lacking in a lot of areas. But continuing down the current path is ramming their heads against a brick wall. Comes a time when blind faith is stupidity. Neeld had enough time to show something, even marginally. Instead there was dramatic decay. No other team supporters would tolerate performances like we have.

Basically, I'm amazed how anyone could say there was any alternative but to sack him.

 

[entourage]

Excellent assistant coach and that's all he'll ever likely be.

Very odd timing though.

 

[Major Colvin]

Neeld was not a good coach. The stats prove this - particularly when compared to where his list was before he took over.

 

[Fuzzy Wuzzy Bear]

Seriously felt that things were on the up after the Collingwood game. Loved the intensity. Loved the competitiveness.

I take it you are talking about the pre-match warm up.

 

[TP86]

Seeing a 3-0, 100% record against Kevin Sheedy looks very odd

http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/coaches/Mark_Neeld.html

But in all seriousness, well done Melbourne. Talk all you like about management and playing stocks but to me this was the easiest decision to make in the club's overhaul.

While seeing coaches sacked in, or at the end of their first year is not the done thing in AFL I was pretty surprised Neeld wasn't. We all knew he was going after rounds one and two and I'm surprised it took until now. Melbourne's first half against Fremantle was the most alarmingly pedestrian AFL football I had seen in some time. I have no doubt Melbourne will play better and compete for longer under Craig and unless they hire another Rhode/Drum/Neeld in the offseason they will improve out of sight next year compared to what we've seen in 2012-13.

 

[ausbacker]

I take it you are talking about the pre-match warm up.

It doesn't take much to impress some people. That's the culture of participation we're breeding.

 

[Major Colvin]

What do you mean vice versa?

Response to person saying "Need was a good bloke - he picked the wrong players (MFC)" - well obviously it works both ways. The players/team have more to offer than what Neeld got out of them. We were the other club that was interested in Neeld so he didnt choose us, we choose him. And a terrible mistake its proven to be.