The rankings (from best to worst) of the 121 VFL/AFL premiership sides.

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Thanks to everyone for their continued support. This exercise is now in its 17th consecutive year.

Time to see where the latest premiership team fits in to to the list. I use my own knowledge from the time of have spent watching football combined with anecdotal, statistical, and written accounts from the early years to rank the 121 premiership teams. I use relativity, taking into account the standard of the competition at the time, so as to not disadvantage teams from the past who were not competing in a national competition, with the resources and professionalism of modern day clubs.

Richmond completed a fairytale season by winning their first premiership in 37 years. They compiled:

- an 18-7 season.
- a percentage from 25 games of over 123.9
- Three finals wins by 51,36, and 48 points
- 3rd on the ladder at end of H&A season
- The 8th best attack
- The 3rd best defence

Richmond built their premiership on the back of a manic defence, and the ability to keep their ball in their forward line. Blessed with 3, perhaps 4 genuine a-grader players and a number of players who played their role they were able to capture that rare combination of hunger, ambition, talent and confidence which swelled into a premiership winning style as the season progressed.

A query remains, talent-wise, over their bottom six or-so players, and also their ability to score heavily. It is rare for an eventual premiership winning side to rank only 8th in attack. They also barely had an injury in the second half of the season which aided their cause. Nevertheless they dominated September with a percentage of 180.8% from their three finals games which gives them a higher ranking than what they otherwise would have had.With an identical win-loss record (and an almost identical percentage) to the Western Bulldogs of 2016, they were set for a similar ranking, but the dominant finals series has them 23 spots higher than the number 102 spot occupied by the 2016 Western Bulldogs

I rate Richmond 2017 at number 80 out of 121.

1.) Essendon 2000. This team earnt the right to be called the greatest in VFL-AFL history with a 24-1 record, a percentage of 163.9 from 25 games, winning three finals by an equal-record combined 230 points with margins of 125, 45 and 60 and a percentage versus the finalists of 160% - 20% higher than any other team in the modern era has managed. At no stage did they look like losing, with even their one loss being narrow, after having 27 more inside 50's, with the Bulldogs having to tactically change the way the sport was played. The Essendon team of 2000 did everything that you could ask, in order for them to be called the best ever. As close to being unbeatable as a team has ever been in VFL-AFL history, with the closest challenge being.....

2.) Collingwood 1929. This team went 19-1 over 20 matches with a percentage of 159.5. They had champions on every line, and were regarded as the greatest combination to have played to that point. The ONLY team to ever be unbeaten in the H&A season. Collingwood fans may label them the best ever VFL-AFL side – I put them at number 2 out of 120. A 62 point loss to Richmond in the finals costs them the number one position on my list. Gordon Coventry was the first to person to kick 100 goals (124) and the Pies completed the treble with Albert Collier winning the Brownlow.

3.) Melbourne 1956. The Dees were at their zenith this year with an 18-2 record and a percentage of 149.4%. Coached by the VFL-AFL coach of the century, Norm Smith and with champion players such as Barassi, Adams, Cordner and Beckwith leading the way, the 1956 Melbourne side was their best side in the most dominant era by one club in VFL-AFL history. A side that could turn it on at will. Many old-timers suggest this was the type of team who could have gone undefeated if they really wanted to.

4.) Hawthorn 1989. The Hawthorn side of ’89 was their best in one of the most powerful eras in history. The Hawks reached their zenith in ’89. They went 21-3, with a percentage of 149.5, had champions everywhere and at their best, were simply unstoppable. I rate them the 4th best of 121 premierships sides. However, unlike Essendon of 2000, or Collingwood of 1929, they didn’t quite have the aura of being totally invincible. Their loss to the Bears holds them back a spot.

5.) Essendon 1950. Tempted to put them higher, but number 5 is fair enough. Here was a team that was near invincible. Just look at their record: 19-1, with a percentage of 159.2. With Coleman at his peak, Dick Reynolds and Hutchison lurking, this was the best Essendon side in their golden era. At the time, many rated this side alongside the 1929 Magpies team as the best of all time.

6.)Geelong 2007. A fantastically dominant team in '07, winning the Grand Final be a record margin, having a percentage for the year over 160% from 25 games. Only great teams can do that. A team, who used skillful, attacking "corridor" midfield play, complimented with a group of players in the mid 20's who have played over 100 games giving them the perfect mix of youth and experience. 21-4, a percentage over 160% and three finals wins by a total of 230 points.

7.) Geelong 2011 A dominant team who didn't have any flat-spots finishing 22-3 with a percentage of 157%. The second oldest premiership side in history meant a wealth of mature bodies and experience. 3 easy finals wins, and a tough defence. More of a long kicking game plan with a defensive edge to it than the flags sides of 2007 and 2009, but perhaps a little less dominant overall than the 2007 side which is ranked one spot higher

8.) Carlton 1908. Carlton’s first golden era produced three great sides, the best of which was the 1908 side. Jack Worrall became the first ever coach, and propelled the Blues to 19-1, with a percentage of 173.7%. Old timers still hold this side as the greatest, and if modern coaching techniques were applied, no doubt they would still be hard to beat in the present day.

9.) Melbourne 1955. Marginally behind the 1956 side, this Melbourne side went 17-3 with a percentage of 150.3%, and showed the makings of a team that would continue to dominate for years to come. The 1955 Melbourne side was heralded as one of the all time greats. A great even spread of talent with no reliance on individuals - a hallmark of the Melbourne teams of this era

10.) Hawthorn 1988. Only behind their ‘89 team due to their inferior defence which conceded 200 points more than the ’89 model. This great team was ruthless, skilled and efficient, and amassed a 21-3 record. Many believe they peaked in ’88, but I believe the Hawks reached their absolute zenith in 1989. Deserve their ranking as the 9th best out of 120.

11.) Collingwood 1927. After losing the Grand Final in 1925 and 1926, this side was ready to peak. They amassed a 17-3 record, with many superstars, proving they could be a champion team and a team of champions. With Coventry kicking 97 goals, and his brother winning the Brownlow, the 1927 side featured the Magpies greats close to their best.

12.) Geelong 1952. Although other teams have amassed superior records, this Geelong side was still one of the greatest in history. They won the premiership in the middle of an unbeaten run that would stretch to 26 consecutive games into the following season, and their attacking, free-flowing style of play became a Geelong tradition. Their 18-2-1 record (140.2%) was a testament to their greatness. Geelong’s best ever side until 2007.

13.) Carlton 1995. This great side had it all - experience, hardness, skill, and a willingness to win. Amassing a 23-2 record with a percentage of 140.6% they played with a professionalism that no club had previously matched. Incredibly, did not lose to a finalist all year. They didn’t quite have the same aura of invincibility as some of the sides in the top 10, but their almost unbeatable record alone ensures them a high ranking.

14.) Carlton 1979. With a 21-3 record and a percentage of 138.9%, and three narrow, spaced losses, this team didn’t have any obvious weaknesses. They nearly blew it in the Grand Final, but their performances through the year were worthy of one of the all time great sides. A rampant mosquito fleet, with a bevy of big name stars all over the field.

15.) Essendon 1985. Sheedy's team peaked to such an extent that they blew away the opposition with a 21-3 record, and were hailed as one of the grea sides of all time. With no apparent weaknesses, a top ruckman, onballers, options everywhere in attack, and a solid defence, this side ranks as one of the greats. Their three losses were all substantial which takes a little away from them, but I still rate them at number 15 out of 120.

16.) Collingwood 1928 Slightly behind their 1929, and 1927 sides the '28 side was one of the greats but perhaps not that far ahead of the other contenders that year. Finished with a 17-3-1 record, and a percentage of 132.5%. Right smack-bang in the middle of the Magpies most famous era. Won the Grand Final by 33 points. Gordon Coventry kicked 89 goals.

17.) Melbourne 1960 This Melbourne side amassed a 16-4 record but with the players at their disposal, that record arguably didn’t do them justice. This was a side that could have easily gone through the season losing only one or two games. In their 7th consecutive Grand Final, they kept Collingwood to only 2.2.14.

18.) Essendon 1911 Under the guidance of the first super-coach, Jack Worrall, who previously led the Blues to three consecutive premierships, the Same Old's as they were known at the time amassed a 17-2-1 record with a percentage (including finals) of 173.3%! The two losses were by 3 and 8 points. Unlucky not to be higher.

19.) Melbourne 1959 Another Demons super-side from their golden era. Not talked about in the same breath as 1955, 56, but this side, along with 1960, were at roughly the same level. The team has a 15-4-1 record from 20 games, winning two finals by 44 and 37 points

20.) Carlton 1907 A great side that would become even better one year later. This side topped the ladder with a percentage of 155.7%. Coached by the first VFL coach, the great Jack Worrall, the Carlton 2007 side was one of the greats.

21.) Hawthorn 1986 Just when it seemed the era was coming to and end in 1985, the experienced ruthless Hawks bounced back in 1986 to finish minor-premiers with 18 wins, and crushed Carlton by 42 points in the Grand Final. The difference between a young Jason Dunstall kicking 77 goals from 22 games in 1986, compared to his 132 in 1988 and 138 in 1989, is essentially the difference between the rankings of where those teams sit compared to this one.
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22. Essendon 1962
23. Geelong 1937
24. Fitzroy 1913
25. Fitzroy 1899
26. South Melbourne 1933
27. Collingwood 2010
28. Hawthorn 2015
29. Essendon 1901
30. Geelong 1925
31. Port Adelaide 2004
32. West Coast 1992
33. Richmond 1974
34. Hawthorn 1971
35. Fitzroy 1898
36. Carlton 1906
37. Collingwood 1902
38. South Melbourne 1909
39. South Melbourne 1918
40. Essendon 1984
41. Richmond 1967
42. West Coast 1994
43. North Melbourne 1996
44. Hawthorn 2013
45. Geelong 2009
46. Brisbane 2002
47. Richmond 1932
48. Collingwood 1930
49. Hawthorn 2014
50. Melbourne 1957
51. Melbourne 1964
52. Essendon 1946
53. Geelong 1951
54. Collingwood 1936
55. Geelong 1931
56. Collingwood 1903
57. Carlton 1914
58. Collingwood 1919
59. Carlton 1915
60. Hawthorn 2008
61. Brisbane 2001
62. Richmond 1980
63. Carlton 1981
64. Carlton 1972
65. Essendon 1949
66. Carlton 1982
67. Geelong 1963
68. Hawthorn 1961
69. Hawthorn 1983
70. Carlton 1987
71. Richmond 1934
72. Brisbane 2003
73. Richmond 1969
74. Melbourne 1939
75. St.Kilda 1966
76. Collingwood 1953
77. Carlton 1968
78. Hawthorn 1991
79. Sydney 2012
80. Richmond 2017
81. Carlton 1947
82. Richmond 1920
83. Essendon 1923
84. Essendon 1942
85. Melbourne 1926
86. Richmond 1973
87. Essendon 1965
88. West Coast 2006
89. Melbourne 1941
90. Fitzroy 1905
91. Fitzroy 1944
92. Carlton 1970
93. Carlton 1938
94. Richmond 1943
95. Collingwood 1935
96. Collingwood 1990
97. Collingwood 1958
98. Essendon 1924
99. Melbourne 1940
100. Hawthorn 1978
101. North Melbourne 1975
102. Hawthorn 1976
103. Western Bulldogs 2016
104. North Melbourne 1977
105. Essendon 1993
106. Collingwood 1910
107. Essendon 1897
108. Adelaide 1998
109. Fitzroy 1904
110. Fitzroy 1922
111. Adelaide 1997 (like any flag side they were good, but there were many better)
112. Sydney 2005 (workmanlike, needed everything to go right)
113. Essendon 1912 (stole it off South Melbourne)
114. Melbourne 1948 (stole if off Essendon)
115. Carlton 1945 (percentage of only 106% and came from 4th, as war ended.)
116. Footscray 1954 (a modest win-loss record in a very even year)
117. Kangaroos 1999 (Worst defence of the top-10 teams. Percentage of 115%)
118. Richmond 1921 (stole it off Carlton)
119. Collingwood 1917 (war years)
120. Melbourne 1900 (came from 6th and helped by finals system)
121. Fitzroy 1916 (war years. Won wooden spoon and flag)
 

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Lol brisbane 2001 who shat all over essendon who were basically the 2000 side and soo wonderful and they rank in the 60s


Just a shitty thread to crap on about the overrated 2000 side
 
Thanks to everyone for their continued support. This exercise is now in its 17th consecutive year.

Time to see where the latest premiership team fits in to to the list. I use my own knowledge from the time of have spent watching football combined with anecdotal, statistical, and written accounts from the early years to rank the 121 premiership teams. I use relativity, taking into account the standard of the competition at the time, so as to not disadvantage teams from the past who were not competing in a national competition, with the resources and professionalism of modern day clubs.

Richmond completed a fairytale season by winning their first premiership in 37 years. They compiled:

- an 18-7 season.
- a percentage from 25 games of over 123.9
- Three finals wins by 51,36, and 48 points
- 3rd on the ladder at end of H&A season
- The 8th best attack
- The 3rd best defence

Richmond built their premiership on the back of a manic defence, and the ability to keep their ball in their forward line. Blessed with 3, perhaps 4 genuine a-grader players and a number of players who played their role they were able to capture that rare combination of hunger, ambition, talent and confidence which swelled into a premiership winning style as the season progressed.

A query remains, talent-wise, over their bottom six or-so players, and also their ability to score heavily. It is rare for an eventual premiership winning side to rank only 8th in attack. They also barely had an injury in the second half of the season which aided their cause. Nevertheless they dominated September with a percentage of 180.8% from their three finals games which gives them a higher ranking than what they otherwise would have had.With an identical win-loss record (and an almost identical percentage) to the Western Bulldogs of 2016, they were set for a similar ranking, but the dominant finals series has them 23 spots higher than the number 102 spot occupied by the 2016 Western Bulldogs

I rate Richmond 2017 at number 80 out of 121.

1.) Essendon 2000. This team earnt the right to be called the greatest in VFL-AFL history with a 24-1 record, a percentage of 163.9 from 25 games, winning three finals by an equal-record combined 230 points with margins of 125, 45 and 60 and a percentage versus the finalists of 160% - 20% higher than any other team in the modern era has managed. At no stage did they look like losing, with even their one loss being narrow, after having 27 more inside 50's, with the Bulldogs having to tactically change the way the sport was played. The Essendon team of 2000 did everything that you could ask, in order for them to be called the best ever. As close to being unbeatable as a team has ever been in VFL-AFL history, with the closest challenge being.....

2.) Collingwood 1929. This team went 19-1 over 20 matches with a percentage of 159.5. They had champions on every line, and were regarded as the greatest combination to have played to that point. The ONLY team to ever be unbeaten in the H&A season. Collingwood fans may label them the best ever VFL-AFL side – I put them at number 2 out of 120. A 62 point loss to Richmond in the finals costs them the number one position on my list. Gordon Coventry was the first to person to kick 100 goals (124) and the Pies completed the treble with Albert Collier winning the Brownlow.

3.) Melbourne 1956. The Dees were at their zenith this year with an 18-2 record and a percentage of 149.4%. Coached by the VFL-AFL coach of the century, Norm Smith and with champion players such as Barassi, Adams, Cordner and Beckwith leading the way, the 1956 Melbourne side was their best side in the most dominant era by one club in VFL-AFL history. A side that could turn it on at will. Many old-timers suggest this was the type of team who could have gone undefeated if they really wanted to.

4.) Hawthorn 1989. The Hawthorn side of ’89 was their best in one of the most powerful eras in history. The Hawks reached their zenith in ’89. They went 21-3, with a percentage of 149.5, had champions everywhere and at their best, were simply unstoppable. I rate them the 4th best of 121 premierships sides. However, unlike Essendon of 2000, or Collingwood of 1929, they didn’t quite have the aura of being totally invincible. Their loss to the Bears holds them back a spot.

5.) Essendon 1950. Tempted to put them higher, but number 5 is fair enough. Here was a team that was near invincible. Just look at their record: 19-1, with a percentage of 159.2. With Coleman at his peak, Dick Reynolds and Hutchison lurking, this was the best Essendon side in their golden era. At the time, many rated this side alongside the 1929 Magpies team as the best of all time.

6.)Geelong 2007. A fantastically dominant team in '07, winning the Grand Final be a record margin, having a percentage for the year over 160% from 25 games. Only great teams can do that. A team, who used skillful, attacking "corridor" midfield play, complimented with a group of players in the mid 20's who have played over 100 games giving them the perfect mix of youth and experience. 21-4, a percentage over 160% and three finals wins by a total of 230 points.

7.) Geelong 2011 A dominant team who didn't have any flat-spots finishing 22-3 with a percentage of 157%. The second oldest premiership side in history meant a wealth of mature bodies and experience. 3 easy finals wins, and a tough defence. More of a long kicking game plan with a defensive edge to it than the flags sides of 2007 and 2009, but perhaps a little less dominant overall than the 2007 side which is ranked one spot higher

8.) Carlton 1908. Carlton’s first golden era produced three great sides, the best of which was the 1908 side. Jack Worrall became the first ever coach, and propelled the Blues to 19-1, with a percentage of 173.7%. Old timers still hold this side as the greatest, and if modern coaching techniques were applied, no doubt they would still be hard to beat in the present day.

9.) Melbourne 1955. Marginally behind the 1956 side, this Melbourne side went 17-3 with a percentage of 150.3%, and showed the makings of a team that would continue to dominate for years to come. The 1955 Melbourne side was heralded as one of the all time greats. A great even spread of talent with no reliance on individuals - a hallmark of the Melbourne teams of this era

10.) Hawthorn 1988. Only behind their ‘89 team due to their inferior defence which conceded 200 points more than the ’89 model. This great team was ruthless, skilled and efficient, and amassed a 21-3 record. Many believe they peaked in ’88, but I believe the Hawks reached their absolute zenith in 1989. Deserve their ranking as the 9th best out of 120.

11.) Collingwood 1927. After losing the Grand Final in 1925 and 1926, this side was ready to peak. They amassed a 17-3 record, with many superstars, proving they could be a champion team and a team of champions. With Coventry kicking 97 goals, and his brother winning the Brownlow, the 1927 side featured the Magpies greats close to their best.

12.) Geelong 1952. Although other teams have amassed superior records, this Geelong side was still one of the greatest in history. They won the premiership in the middle of an unbeaten run that would stretch to 26 consecutive games into the following season, and their attacking, free-flowing style of play became a Geelong tradition. Their 18-2-1 record (140.2%) was a testament to their greatness. Geelong’s best ever side until 2007.

13.) Carlton 1995. This great side had it all - experience, hardness, skill, and a willingness to win. Amassing a 23-2 record with a percentage of 140.6% they played with a professionalism that no club had previously matched. Incredibly, did not lose to a finalist all year. They didn’t quite have the same aura of invincibility as some of the sides in the top 10, but their almost unbeatable record alone ensures them a high ranking.

14.) Carlton 1979. With a 21-3 record and a percentage of 138.9%, and three narrow, spaced losses, this team didn’t have any obvious weaknesses. They nearly blew it in the Grand Final, but their performances through the year were worthy of one of the all time great sides. A rampant mosquito fleet, with a bevy of big name stars all over the field.

15.) Essendon 1985. Sheedy's team peaked to such an extent that they blew away the opposition with a 21-3 record, and were hailed as one of the grea sides of all time. With no apparent weaknesses, a top ruckman, onballers, options everywhere in attack, and a solid defence, this side ranks as one of the greats. Their three losses were all substantial which takes a little away from them, but I still rate them at number 15 out of 120.

16.) Collingwood 1928 Slightly behind their 1929, and 1927 sides the '28 side was one of the greats but perhaps not that far ahead of the other contenders that year. Finished with a 17-3-1 record, and a percentage of 132.5%. Right smack-bang in the middle of the Magpies most famous era. Won the Grand Final by 33 points. Gordon Coventry kicked 89 goals.

17.) Melbourne 1960 This Melbourne side amassed a 16-4 record but with the players at their disposal, that record arguably didn’t do them justice. This was a side that could have easily gone through the season losing only one or two games. In their 7th consecutive Grand Final, they kept Collingwood to only 2.2.14.

18.) Essendon 1911 Under the guidance of the first super-coach, Jack Worrall, who previously led the Blues to three consecutive premierships, the Same Old's as they were known at the time amassed a 17-2-1 record with a percentage (including finals) of 173.3%! The two losses were by 3 and 8 points. Unlucky not to be higher.

19.) Melbourne 1959 Another Demons super-side from their golden era. Not talked about in the same breath as 1955, 56, but this side, along with 1960, were at roughly the same level. The team has a 15-4-1 record from 20 games, winning two finals by 44 and 37 points

20.) Carlton 1907 A great side that would become even better one year later. This side topped the ladder with a percentage of 155.7%. Coached by the first VFL coach, the great Jack Worrall, the Carlton 2007 side was one of the greats.

21.) Hawthorn 1986 Just when it seemed the era was coming to and end in 1985, the experienced ruthless Hawks bounced back in 1986 to finish minor-premiers with 18 wins, and crushed Carlton by 42 points in the Grand Final. The difference between a young Jason Dunstall kicking 77 goals from 22 games in 1986, compared to his 132 in 1988 and 138 in 1989, is essentially the difference between the rankings of where those teams sit compared to this one.
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22. Essendon 1962
23. Geelong 1937
24. Fitzroy 1913
25. Fitzroy 1899
26. South Melbourne 1933
27. Collingwood 2010
28. Hawthorn 2015
29. Essendon 1901
30. Geelong 1925
31. Port Adelaide 2004
32. West Coast 1992
33. Richmond 1974
34. Hawthorn 1971
35. Fitzroy 1898
36. Carlton 1906
37. Collingwood 1902
38. South Melbourne 1909
39. South Melbourne 1918
40. Essendon 1984
41. Richmond 1967
42. West Coast 1994
43. North Melbourne 1996
44. Hawthorn 2013
45. Geelong 2009
46. Brisbane 2002
47. Richmond 1932
48. Collingwood 1930
49. Hawthorn 2014
50. Melbourne 1957
51. Melbourne 1964
52. Essendon 1946
53. Geelong 1951
54. Collingwood 1936
55. Geelong 1931
56. Collingwood 1903
57. Carlton 1914
58. Collingwood 1919
59. Carlton 1915
60. Hawthorn 2008
61. Brisbane 2001
62. Richmond 1980
63. Carlton 1981
64. Carlton 1972
65. Essendon 1949
66. Carlton 1982
67. Geelong 1963
68. Hawthorn 1961
69. Hawthorn 1983
70. Carlton 1987
71. Richmond 1934
72. Brisbane 2003
73. Richmond 1969
74. Melbourne 1939
75. St.Kilda 1966
76. Collingwood 1953
77. Carlton 1968
78. Hawthorn 1991
79. Sydney 2012
80. Richmond 2017
81. Carlton 1947
82. Richmond 1920
83. Essendon 1923
84. Essendon 1942
85. Melbourne 1926
86. Richmond 1973
87. Essendon 1965
88. West Coast 2006
89. Melbourne 1941
90. Fitzroy 1905
91. Fitzroy 1944
92. Carlton 1970
93. Carlton 1938
94. Richmond 1943
95. Collingwood 1935
96. Collingwood 1990
97. Collingwood 1958
98. Essendon 1924
99. Melbourne 1940
100. Hawthorn 1978
101. North Melbourne 1975
102. Hawthorn 1976
103. Western Bulldogs 2016
104. North Melbourne 1977
105. Essendon 1993
106. Collingwood 1910
107. Essendon 1897
108. Adelaide 1998
109. Fitzroy 1904
110. Fitzroy 1922
111. Adelaide 1997 (like any flag side they were good, but there were many better)
112. Sydney 2005 (workmanlike, needed everything to go right)
113. Essendon 1912 (stole it off South Melbourne)
114. Melbourne 1948 (stole if off Essendon)
115. Carlton 1945 (percentage of only 106% and came from 4th, as war ended.)
116. Footscray 1954 (a modest win-loss record in a very even year)
117. Kangaroos 1999 (Worst defence of the top-10 teams. Percentage of 115%)
118. Richmond 1921 (stole it off Carlton)
119. Collingwood 1917 (war years)
120. Melbourne 1900 (came from 6th and helped by finals system)
121. Fitzroy 1916 (war years. Won wooden spoon and flag)
Brisbane 2001 - 61? That is a travesty. Top 15.
 

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Carlton 1907: Beaten by Norwood by 32 points in champions of Australia final. Not the best team in the country.
Carlton 1908: Beaten by West Adelaide by 29 points in champions of Australia final. Not the best team in the country.
Collingwood 1910: Beaten by Port Adelaide by 59 points in champions of Australia final. Not the best team in the country.
Essendon 1911: Beaten by West Adelaide by 3 points in the champions of Australia final. Not the best team in the country.
Fitzroy 1913: Beaten by Port Adelaide by 63 points in champions of Australia final. Not the best team in the country.
Carlton 1914: Beaten by Port Adelaide by 34 points in champions of Australia final. Not the best team in the country.
Carlton 1972: Beaten by North Adelaide by 1 point in champions of Australia final. Not the best team in the country.


Thanks for your support for the history of the game
 
Geelong 2011? Can't believe Brisbane is so far down. That is an absolute joke. Brisbane 01 and 03 are categorically superior. At a minimum, top 20.

How? His rankings take all achievements into account. Brisbane 01 got smashed at least once during the year, and didn't finish minor premiers. 03 lost the first week of the finals and also did not finish minor premier. Geelong 2011 beat the minor premier 3 times (including smashing them by 96 points in the last round), and won every final by 30+ points. They also won a game by 186 points. Remember that one?
 
Lol brisbane 2001 who shat all over essendon who were basically the 2000 side and soo wonderful and they rank in the 60s

The Brisbane 2000 side (who by your logic, is basically their 2001 side) lost to Essendon at the Gabba - in the wet - by 63 points.

Every year is different, and sometimes teams with similar personnel from one year to the next (such as Richmond from 2016 to 2017) produce far better teams 12 months apart.

There was no comparison between Essendon 2000 and 2001. The 2000 side was miles better.

Just as the Brisbane side of 2001 was miles better than their 2000 side
 

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