Top 5 Irish players

[Demonated]

Unrealistic brisbane fans these days

 

[Topkent]

Stynes could well be one of the 5 best melbourne players of all time

Hanley might not even be in the top 5 of the decade for Brisbane

Harley's a very good player an he was set to be a gun midfielder this year but Brisbane already have atleast 2 better midfielders

 

[iBeng]

Get on the Cian Hanley train early folks! Pearces younger brother, will see them both on the field in 17'.

 

[Crabman]

Sean Wight was Scottish, not Irish.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Hanley second at the moment, behind Stynes and will probably pass him by the end of his career.

Would have just pipped Kennelly last season.

lol

People really don't know how good Stynes was

 

[Max Power 83]

Sean Wight was Scottish, not Irish.

True. But he played Gealic football in Ireland, and was was part of the "Irish experiment".

I think for the purposes of this thread he can be considered Irish.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Where does Dermott rate....

 

[Halftimehero]

Stynes

Daylight

Kennelly
Hanley
Wight


No one else even worth mentioning

 

[SBYM]

Tuohy has the tools to be in this convo, and was on his way...

Unfortunately, after a really solid 2013, he went backwards last year at a rate of knots.

Fingers crossed he can get back to where he was, and then build from there.

 

[Sherrinator]

Stynes was a ruck, Kenelly was a back and Hanley is a mid.

 

[Sprout]

Sorry, I must have missed that rule....

For the record though, this is 2015 - not that tricky to watch footage of Stynes or any past players.



Hanley is still easy second for mine, and still for mine will pass Stynes - sorry.

Yes, some youtube footage should bring you up to speed.

1. Stynes

2. The rest

 

[mayne man]

Stynes was a ruck, Kenelly was a back and Hanley is a mid.

yeah your right that is there positions?

 

[Sherrinator]

yeah your right that is there positions?

Why are we comparing different positions?

Greatest player threads are dumb because players played at different times and different positions.

Stynes was never going to solo a football and step and snap a goal any more than Hanley or Kenelly could win a ruck contest or outmark a KPP forward.

 

[Back One Out]

If your perspective has holes in it, it will be pointed out and perhaps even dismissed as rubbish.

If all you have to go off with Stynes is footage, might I enquire as to where you've sourced the footage, which year and games have you been looking at?

4 BnF's, 2 All Australians, MVP winner, Brownlow winner. Might be worth asking yourself what you're missing here.

Don't read this as me denigrating Jim Stynes in any way. I think he was one of the greats, but you listing those individual awards as some type of irrefutable proof of his untouchability has just as many holes in it as the opinion of the Brisbane Lions fan you replied to.

Let's look a little more closely into it.

In 1991, the 25yo Jim Stynes went to a new level.

• MVP
• Brownlow Medal
• All Australian
• Best and fairest

He'd been good prior to 1991, but in his Brownlow year, he learned to read the game, drop back into defence and mark every long kick which came his way. In many games, the opposition teams played right into his hands by repeatedly bombing it long in his direction. Stynes had a picnic, plucking marks at CHB with his eyes closed.

He was very good to excellent over the next seven years of his career, but he NEVER dominated the game like he did in 1991.

From 1992 to 1998, Stynes was selected in one All-Australian team. From 1995-97, he won 3 best and fairests for a struggling bottom four team, a similar feat to Nathan Jones winning Melbourne's last three B&Fs. It kind of pads out his record in some respects. There weren't many contenders for Melbourne's B&F in those years. Their list was shite! Alastair Clarkson was their leading possession getter in 1996. It was a bit of an indictment on their award that Stynes struggled through many games with an injury (keeping his consecutive games record intact) and had many Demons fans grumbling about his form, yet he was still able to poll the most votes.

Stynes was never a great ruckman in the traditional sense. He was merely average when it came to the hit outs and pack marking. His chief weapon was his mobility and stamina. He played as an extra midfielder for Melbourne.

I don't think Pierce Hanley is as far behind Stynes as you've made out. He's been on the fringes of the All-Australian squad for the past two seasons. If he can earn a spot in the All-Australian midfield, I think that is probably a greater achievement for an ex-Gaelic footballer than converting a 199cm athlete to ghost as a ruckman and earn AA selection that way.

 

[beerbandit]

Old people these days

Stynes is miles ahead of Hanley

 

[mayne man]

Why are we comparing different positions?

Greatest player threads are dumb because players played at different times and different positions.

Stynes was never going to solo a football and step and snap a goal any more than Hanley or Kenelly could win a ruck contest or outmark a KPP forward.

im not comparing there positions and none of the other two come close to stynes

jim stynes

• Brownlow Medal: 1991

• Keith 'Bluey' Truscott Medal: 1991, 1995–1997

• Leigh Matthews Trophy (AFLPA MVP Award): 1991

• All-Australian: 1991, 1993

• Herald Sun Player of the Year Award: 1991

• Melbourne F.C. Team of the Century

• AFL Hall of Fame Inductee: 2003

 

[SE_Blue]

Anyone who doesn't say Setanta is lying to themselves and everyone in this thread and I won't stand for it.

 

[Sherrinator]

Anyone who doesn't say Setanta is lying to themselves and everyone in this thread and I won't stand for it.

He really peaked at GWS

 

[Sherrinator]

im not comparing there positions and none of the other two come close to stynes

jim stynes

• Brownlow Medal: 1991

• Keith 'Bluey' Truscott Medal: 1991, 1995–1997

• Leigh Matthews Trophy (AFLPA MVP Award): 1991

• All-Australian: 1991, 1993

• Herald Sun Player of the Year Award: 1991

• Melbourne F.C. Team of the Century

• AFL Hall of Fame Inductee: 2003

Can't argue with that.

Close thread.

 

[SE_Blue]

Can't argue with that.

Close thread.

Setanta O'hAilpin

First Kick First Goal Club

Belted Cameron Cloke

Two Accented Letters In Surname

82 Goals from 88 Games (Far Superior Goal-To-Game Rate Than Stynes)

Actually Drafted By An AFL Club (Stynes Never Was)

Belted Cain Ackland

Inaugural GIANTS Lend Lease Community Footprint Award

Any questions?












(but he was actually a pretty good hurler)

 

[Falchoon]

Jim Stynes

The only player Robert Harvey ever tagged.

 

[Sherrinator]

Setanta O'hAilpin

First Kick First Goal Club

Belted Cameron Cloke

Two Accented Letters In Surname

82 Goals from 88 Games (Far Superior Goal-To-Game Rate Than Stynes)

Actually Drafted By An AFL Club (Stynes Never Was)

Belted Cain Ackland

Inaugural GIANTS Lend Lease Community Footprint Award

Any questions?












(but he was actually a pretty good hurler)

There should be a medal for the accented letters cause how rare is that? And ya gotta respect a bloke who brought back the biff (friendly biff).

 

[Sherrinator]

Jim Stynes

The only player Robert Harvey ever tagged.

Why tag players when you can tag Big Mac's?

 

[Matchu]

1 - Stynes
2 - Hanley
3 - Kennelly
4 - Wight
5 - Clarke (Tuohy will pass him)

Finally someone actually gives a top 5.

 

[Grongey]

1 - Stynes
2 - Hanley
3 - Kennelly
4 - Wight
5 - Clarke (Tuohy will pass him)

Spot on. Jimmy Stynes a long way clear though.