Ill throw in Paul Hudson also. Cook wasnt a total failure either I dont think.
Travis Cloke - Realistic expectations for 2017
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Ill throw in Paul Hudson also. Cook wasnt a total failure either I dont think.
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Cloke will take Footscray to another flag imo
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Obviously depends on what you have to give up for him, but if it is for basically nothing I would be happy for him to be the CHF/Running wing type for the next few years. Cloke, Crameri, Boyd, luke dahlhaus, Stringer doesn't sound too bad ...
As long as hes fit and runs up the ground to the lead hard and crashes the packs with everything, he will be a positive. I think you guys have enough other players who can do the goal kicking part of it.
As long as hes fit and runs up the ground to the lead hard and crashes the packs with everything, he will be a positive. I think you guys have enough other players who can do the goal kicking part of it.
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Probably a tad off topic, but seeing Cloke played for Collingwood...
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Crameri and stringer great defensive pressure even daniel has a bit of it too.
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Heard we dressed him up as redpath to get him on the ground for Thursday
Reckon a straight swap for Jong is paying overs tbh.
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Ever heard of the expression 'nothing ventured, nothing gained'?
Yeah, it's a risk, but it's a very low-cost risk and if it fails, it won't have cost much, if it succeeds, the 1954 cup might finally have some company.
I agree. Jong is worth a mid to late second rounder, maybe around pick 30.
Cloke is worth a late third rounder or fourth rounder at best, maybe around pick 55.
Just my opinion obviously.
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I think getting Cloke will be great for us, to be completely honest. It doesnt really matter how many marks he takes or goals he kicks, he could do nothing every game and still be useful to us. Just having him there to draw attention away from Jake, Stew and Tory will make him worth having. Those guys are all capable of kicking a match winning bag.
I always liked James Cook. I think that he did his job, and .... six goals in a preliminary final. He did absolutely everything that he could to get the dogs over the line that day, and his end of year form that year was incredible and was one of the reasons why they should have gone all the way that year!
I loved how he'd lead to absolutely impossible angles every single time, and I'd think 'crap, there's no way that he can kick it from there', but every time, he'd put it through! Whenever he took a mark straight in front, he'd miss!
I've heard Schwartz be critical of Boyd previously and compares his performance on the number of goals he kicks. I very much doubt he has actually watched him play this year because he seems to have no idea Tom is used in the ruck and his time in the forward line limited.
Unfortunately Cookie wouldn't have played n the GF if we had won because he was suspended for snotting someone in the prelim.
Lol no way Jong would play 10 seasons at the Pies.
On Cloke I think his body is cooked I cant see him doing much, all the best to you guys trying to get something out of him.
Why would we pay any of his contract, he is your problem now. Also he had to meet performance triggers in his 4th year to earn a big pay day in the fifth year of the deal. I would guess getting dropped three times means he has failed to reach them
So there's a guy contracted to your club at 400k next year who is "cooked", and you think that's our problem?
Well you are the ones chasing him and I can't see anyone at Collingwood standing in you way, so unless Richmond come up with a better deal Cloke will become a Dog in 2017
Ok, but what if we don't want to offer him 400k? You either pay some of his salary and trade him or pay all of it and keep him.
I wonder how close Collingwood will come to the 95% of the cap with the retiring players & Cloke wanting to leave, they'd have room to chase someone decent next season with all of their freed up cap space.
Pretty sure scragcity was talking about Footscray, not to be confused with the western bulldogs.
Cloke would take less money to leave
Or offload him to Richmond
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