List Mgmt. Ty Vickery - Tigers decided not to match the deal. Richmond receives Pick 26

[Gentlemen]

I've heard everyone is leaving, even dimma- and no-one wants to coach us/

Richmond board council incoming

 

[Charlie Pannam]

If Terry Wallet is correct and we get a 2nd rounder (http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/med...o/news-story/c281b53a621448ce09d50014ade4bd5f) i'll be doing cartwheels. I'm assuming that pick is immediately after our 2nd rounder (which we gave away for Yarran last year).
Still can't actually believe that the club is making the sensible call on Vickery.

 

[Richo is God]

3 yeardeal at hawthorn

 

[TheDyerLegacy]

3 yeardeal at hawthorn

Where did you get that info?

 

[Ned_Flanders]

3 yeardeal at hawthorn

Coin??

 

[Barry_Badrinath]

3 yeardeal at hawthorn

If anybody needed any more proof that Hawthorn are on the way out, this is it.

 

[Richo is God]

Where did you get that info?

BT just said that's the strongest word he has on where hes going

 

[aislegi]

Like Shultz did. At least Shultz had a crack, wasn't very good at it but had a crack. Ty on the other hand could be good if he wanted to have a rack. Best of luck to him and I will cheer every time he lines up on Rance

 

[Ned_Flanders]

If anybody needed any more proof that Hawthorn are on the way out, this is it.

But hell be turned into hale!!!

 

[Crumpet_avenger]

Im watchen the hawks struggle up froward against the cats. If vickery goes there he would be suited well.
I reckon he will become a bloody good player at hawthorn..
I hope we get some decent compensation for the pea heart

 

[duzzy]

just invented a cocktail called a Bye-Ty

 

[I Rock]

just invented a cocktail called a Bye-Ty

Is it a glass of horse piss that you throw down the sink and then drink a cool refreshing beer instead?

 

[richoplzbreed]

Dunno how this restricted/ unrestricted works. Since the hawks always pay unders can we match there low offer thus forcing them to up the ante or trade? We should make plays for hartung, ltherland, Langford or Blake Hardwick? Everyone's trying to raid gws we should be original and plunder the best who have plenty of frustrated disgruntled fringe players who aren't getting opportunities or decent money. I'm sure hartung is equally as frustrated as Lennon missing out on finals. Membrey cracked it when goodes went another year and what a pickup.

 

[Bobsleder]

Membrey is a great example of the type of guys we need to search for who are killing it in the reserves, getting the odd senior game, but starved of opportunity by a gun in their position.

 

[THE THIN MAN]

The old saying encapsulates Tyrone perfectly "He would not work in an iron lung"

 

[THE THIN MAN]

If he knows he is just trying to up Vickerys value then I like it!

If he was trying to maximise Tyrone value why did he continually play him after Round 9?

 

[theflea]

Dunno how this restricted/ unrestricted works. Since the hawks always pay unders can we match there low offer thus forcing them to up the ante or trade? We should make plays for hartung, ltherland, Langford or Blake Hardwick? Everyone's trying to raid gws we should be original and plunder the best who have plenty of frustrated disgruntled fringe players who aren't getting opportunities or decent money. I'm sure hartung is equally as frustrated as Lennon missing out on finals. Membrey cracked it when goodes went another year and what a pickup.

If a club matches a RFA offer then they are with it, if the player agrees to stay. If the player doesn't agree, then he can then engage clubs with a trade. Clubs cant match an offer, then ask for a trade, but they can threaten to match it thus getting a better offer. This is what happened with danger and the cats. This is what I think is the regs for free agents.

 

[TigerImposter]

Got this article of Beveridge on Talking Footy.At the 2:30 mark the dropping and handling of Jake Stringer surfaces.
I got this wrong as i believed they were just resting him for the finals,but Beveridge clearly states two major factors.
1 They didn't want to compromise the integrity of the match committee
2 Every play is treated equally

If our club had of handled TV early in his career with the same beliefs and standards the consequences may have been different

This interview shows the difference between a coach and a caretaker.

http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/video/2016-09-13/beveridge-talks-finals-on-talking-footy

 

[partycorolla]

Got this article of Beveridge on Talking Footy.At the 2:30 mark the dropping and handling of Jake Stringer surfaces.
I got this wrong as i believed they were just resting him for the finals,but Beveridge clearly states two major factors.
1 They didn't want to compromise the integrity of the match committee
2 Every play is treated equally

If our club had of handled TV early in his career with the same beliefs and standards the consequences may have been different

This interview shows the difference between a coach and a caretaker.

http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/video/2016-09-13/beveridge-talks-finals-on-talking-footy

Hawthorn didn't drop Luke Hodge when he was done for drink-driving. So maybe they have different rules for different players. Works ok for them. Their coach is going alright I think.

However on the Ty stuff. I can't believe he wasn't dropped. However I come from a built in mindset of differentiation. Horses for courses. Not sure it should apply to football clubs with selection but some players clearly respond to the carrot, others to the stick.

 

[TigerImposter]

Hawthorn didn't drop Luke Hodge when he was done for drink-driving. So maybe they have different rules for different players. Works ok for them. Their coach is going alright I think.

However on the Ty stuff. I can't believe he wasn't dropped. However I come from a built in mindset of differentiation. Horses for courses. Not sure it should apply to football clubs with selection but some players clearly respond to the carrot, others to the stick.

Hodge wasn't based on performance . He did do some community work on alcohol as a token punishment. I think comparing our standards to Hawthorns is a bit of a giggle PC. Clarko and the team have no issues with dropping under performers.
Our standards are poor under DH and blokes just rock up knowing they will get a game even if they take the day off. TV is just one example of many. Our list is not competitive within which makes it impossible to be competitive on the field.
Seven years going onto eight............. Sigh

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Hawthorn didn't drop Luke Hodge when he was done for drink-driving. So maybe they have different rules for different players. Works ok for them. Their coach is going alright I think.

However on the Ty stuff. I can't believe he wasn't dropped. However I come from a built in mindset of differentiation. Horses for courses. Not sure it should apply to football clubs with selection but some players clearly respond to the carrot, others to the stick.

Hodge is a good bloke though

You don't fine/suspend good blokes

 

[TigerImposter]

Hodge is a good bloke though

You don't fine/suspend good blokes

Great response and I'm glad you raised it , but TV is a good bloke at PRO. What does Hodge off field behaviour have to do with his leadership courage and ability on the field? If TV could perform as much as Hodge's big toe we would have half a player.

 

[partycorolla]

Great response and I'm glad you raised it , but TV is a good bloke at PRO. What does Hodge off field behaviour have to do with his leadership courage and ability on the field? If TV could perform as much as Hodge's big toe we would have half a player.

Agreed but what does that have to do with him being dropped?

 

[TigerImposter]

Agreed but what does that have to do with him being dropped?

Did i introduce Hodge to the conversation?Did i say he was a good bloke?Did i compare his misdemeanor to TV poor work rate ?
Great way of deflecting the true points being made in the first post .

 

[Bobby Sands]

Did i introduce Hodge to the conversation?Did i say he was a good bloke?Did i compare his misdemeanor to TV poor work rate ?
Great way of deflecting the true points being made in the first post .

Crimea river.