List Mgmt. Welcome Campbell Chesser (Pick 14, 2021 National Draft)

[EagleMan87]

One play in particular from the weekend really impressed me:

~19:15 to go in the third, Chesser tracks a high ball in the forward 50, collects and looks to handball.

Darling is the first option, running away from goal; Chess goes to pass, then sees Waterman on his own and shoots a handball between a few players to Snake, who snaps and kicks his third.

 

[Yeahnahmate]

He’s getting more composed and vision in tight is improving. Work by hand is getting up to the level now. Just looks exactly like a guy that when he gets confidence it’s going to click. I’m really glad we are getting games into him tbh

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

He’s getting more composed and vision in tight is improving. Work by hand is getting up to the level now. Just looks exactly like a guy that when he gets confidence it’s going to click. I’m really glad we are getting games into him tbh

He looks like he could be a player who is quite damaging once he gets his production and confidence up. His ball use is quite good by hand and by foot. I get the feeling he is getting close to a real breakout game.

One play in particular from the weekend really impressed me:

~19:15 to go in the third, Chesser tracks a high ball in the forward 50, collects and looks to handball.

Darling is the first option, running away from goal; Chess goes to pass, then sees Waterman on his own and shoots a handball between a few players to Snake, who snaps and kicks his third.

That was very sexy by Chesser





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[bombard]

It's not just Chesser or the Eagles. The meta has shifted, it's fast, attacking, corridor footy. Barely any high possession wingers out there at the moment, it's all about the engine room generating clearances and repeat entries.

Unless you're Ross Lyon I guess.

Reporting you for using the word "meta"

 

[garlic munchers]

Was watching him a bit at the game as he was lining up on the wing near my seat. He’s still learning where to run, there were a couple times he was clearly in the wrong spot and caught in no man’s land. Also a couple times he was in the right spot but wasn’t clean enough. Then a couple times he was in a good spot but burned by team mates.

I can see what the club is doing with him and the role. It will take time but hopefully he can make it work - think Blake Acres type.

If he reaches Acres level I would take that.

Can't see him being much more than a foot soldier who has good ground covering skills (Masten peak maybe).

Would only get a game in the bottom 4 sides ATM.

 

[Chris_6678]

If he reaches Acres level I would take that.

Can't see him being much more than a foot soldier who has good ground covering skills (Masten peak maybe).

Would only get a game in the bottom 4 sides ATM.

He should try base his game on him.

 

[Jez1974]

If he reaches Acres level I would take that.

Can't see him being much more than a foot soldier who has good ground covering skills (Masten peak maybe).

Would only get a game in the bottom 4 sides ATM.

Totally agree but keep my and your thoughts to yourself. Some people disagree and don't like it!!

 

[Hoskin300]

Totally agree but keep my and your thoughts to yourself. Some people disagree and don't like it!!

You guys aren’t agreeing tho? One is saying he will be masten level (who played 200 games) and you think he should be dropped.

 

[Jez1974]

He just isn’t a winger. Can talk about running patterns all we want etc but it’s not his go. You can see his bigger body is better around the contest

People keep going on about drafting a big bodies midfielder. heck that. We need a runner so a guy like Chesser can move roles

Why isn't or hasn't he been playing there even when yeo was injured??

 

[Jez1974]

What I’d really like to know though, is what Jezbunchonumbers thinks about Chesser.

Just ask?

 

[Jez1974]

Harley Reid also has a below average disposals and below average kicks per game - are the people who want Chesser out of the side also wanting to get rid of Reid.

3 stats at average and one above.
Wh a t the friar are you talking bout

 

[MerryHell]

 

[Jez1974]

Just correcting the wrong facts about Reid lol

 

[Hoskin300]

Why isn't or hasn't he been playing there even when yeo was injured??

Do you watch the games? He played as an inside mid last weekend.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Why isn't or hasn't he been playing there even when yeo was injured??

In all honesty I think they just wanted to give Ginbey and Reid more runs through the middle then they were getting when Yeo was in the team.

 

[WCE_phil]

This is an astute pick up.

If it's consistently happening like you say, it's more than likely a coaching/strategy directive to ignore that 30m kick and get it into the forwards as a priority. Thus, they must have data to support the non 30m spot up kick.

I'd say we have structured the forward line a ceratain way that perhaps if we take that short 30m kick the forwards are out of place? Or you are increasing the chance of a turnover the more you dispose of the ball? Or possibly the extra 5 seconds to kick it short allows for the opposition to employ better defensive mechanisms?

For mine I'd like to always use the loose man going forward and create the outnumber. And I would know best as I've read Art of War.

This is purely looking at things from a coaching perspective.

If you have fast ball movement and genuine one on ones 10-30 metres out and guys who are at that moment 60-70 metres out you kick it long to the forwards advantage.

The specific reason is that even if there is a direct turnover you have those blokes now at the 50 metre mark who are already apart of the press and help hold up play.

This does potentially mean less ball for HF's and wingers on faster (particularly more central) plays and it does give you coverage if the ball comes back the other way.

Also as long as the forwards are one vs one as long as you have the skill to execute you are better off with the long kick on the load or to the advantage because it not only makes your forward much more likely to get a free kick but if you take the short kick and the player is held up for any reason you then end up with a congested forward line very quickly.

Particularly for a young side, keep it simple and perform the basics well.

BTW I thought chesser despite being out of position on a few occasions on the weekend did a few very smart things and personally thought it was easily his best game this year.

Now just on the outperforming the expected player ratings because this is an area in which I specialise. They are based off of location, strength of opponent and most importantly previous years performance. A young small up until 23-25 should be beating their expecting player rating more often than not unless they are absolute freaks early on and are then learning to cope with a tag during that period.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Just watching Johnston at the Dorkers . Him in front of Chesser? Not a chance

 

[eaglevision]

This is purely looking at things from a coaching perspective.

If you have fast ball movement and genuine one on ones 10-30 metres out and guys who are at that moment 60-70 metres out you kick it long to the forwards advantage.

The specific reason is that even if there is a direct turnover you have those blokes now at the 50 metre mark who are already apart of the press and help hold up play.

This does potentially mean less ball for HF's and wingers on faster (particularly more central) plays and it does give you coverage if the ball comes back the other way.

Also as long as the forwards are one vs one as long as you have the skill to execute you are better off with the long kick on the load or to the advantage because it not only makes your forward much more likely to get a free kick but if you take the short kick and the player is held up for any reason you then end up with a congested forward line very quickly.

Particularly for a young side, keep it simple and perform the basics well.

BTW I thought chesser despite being out of position on a few occasions on the weekend did a few very smart things and personally thought it was easily his best game this year.

Now just on the outperforming the expected player ratings because this is an area in which I specialise. They are based off of location, strength of opponent and most importantly previous years performance. A young small up until 23-25 should be beating their expecting player rating more often than not unless they are absolute freaks early on and are then learning to cope with a tag during that period.

This is great analysis. With Oscar’s injury he will be playing out of the goal square from now on. This with Waterman’s (mostly) unexpected rise and Harley almost impossible to stop deep one out we’ll be going long and direct unless there is the most simple of options with a short kick out of the midfield.

Chesser and the other wings/HFFs will be creating space at the cost of their own game/stats and then as you say be ready to press on the F50 to lock the ball in and defend it coming back.

 

[Mudguts12]

Didn’t look that quick failing to chase Gawn as he loped into the forward 50.

Unsure about his supposed pace, but he’s making better decisions in tight and looking solid

He must've been gassed then, cos he was lightning quick chasing down McIntosh in the first quarter in the Richmond game. Reminded me of T1000 mode Darling early in his career.

 

[KBLT]

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Just watching Johnston at the Dorkers . Him in front of Chesser? Not a chance

I’d say Johnson and Chesser are the inverse of each other at the moment.

Johnson gets a fair bit of the ball, uses it poorly, makes bad decisions and gets caught/pinged a lot and has a lot of turnovers and low score involvements. Last night he had 20D, 6 turnovers and only 2 score involvements.

Chesser has become pretty good ball in hand, has a handball with some good sting in it, kick has depth and penetration, but isn’t getting as much ball as we’d like. Last week chesser had 12D, 1 turnover, 3SI and 1 goal assist.

I’m becoming more and more comfortable in saying Chesser will be the better player over the long term.

 

[Jez1974]

In all honesty I think they just wanted to give Ginbey and Reid more runs through the middle then they were getting when Yeo was in the team.

I’d say Johnson and Chesser are the inverse of each other at the moment.

Johnson gets a fair bit of the ball, uses it poorly, makes bad decisions and gets caught/pinged a lot and has a lot of turnovers and low score involvements. Last night he had 20D, 6 turnovers and only 2 score involvements.

Chesser has become pretty good ball in hand, has a handball with some good sting in it, kick has depth and penetration, but isn’t getting as much ball as we’d like. Last week chesser had 12D, 1 turnover, 3SI and 1 goal assist.

I’m becoming more and more comfortable in saying Chesser will be the better player over the long term.

Both not much chop atm

 

[Rivoroo17]

Chesser 3rd best on ground seems to be one of few playing with intent having a great game. What do you have to say jez

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Well played today kid.

Would love Simpson to encourage our guys to look for him more, he's becoming one of our better users. Once he can start getting his tally above 20 touches regularly we'll have a very good player on our hands.

 

[eaglespremiers]

Chesser has this weird way that I perceive him that I think he's had a lot of involvement (particularly today) and I look at the stats sheet and he's had it 10-15 times. Goes to show that he has a decent impact per disposal which bodes well if he is able to push into the 18+ disposal range (which I'll bank him to do so).