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I agree its a fail if we dont at least make the GF from here. Im not sure who else will make it i think sydney are a good shot to get there if they get top 2. Melbourne are still the best team in it but very out of form.
Who is your 2022 AFL grand final pick
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I agree its a fail if we dont at least make the GF from here. Im not sure who else will make it i think sydney are a good shot to get there if they get top 2. Melbourne are still the best team in it but very out of form.
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Pies in another close one?Melbourne v Collingwood.
And we all know how it ends.
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Probably cameron/hawkins but tbh now that we have a much more attacking gameplan and better complementary forwards than in the past (stengle is a gun and close is breaking out) we dont rely on them in the sense that if we get enough supply i back us to kick enough goals even if the big 2 dont get them. But i know what you mean we are a more even side than in the past which is why danger being frequently injured and selwood running on fumes doesnt impact us the way it would have in other years.
I think sydney have improved in this area too you dont rely on buddy and your other senior guys as much as you used to you are more even across the board.
Melbourne are still a threat simply because gawn petracca and oliver are all in the top 6-8 players in the comp so if they all fire in finals they can matchwin games but a lot of their other teammates are very out of form.
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Cmon, at least let us get a premature stiffy before the inevitableIts a grand final remember.
One trick pony's dont win premierships.
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Geelong v Collingwood
Redemption a decade in the making.
I think that it looms as the most entertaining match up, and these two sides are no strangers to each other in finals. Seems like Cats and Pies play each other nearly every year in finals.
Redemption a decade in the making.
I think that it looms as the most entertaining match up, and these two sides are no strangers to each other in finals. Seems like Cats and Pies play each other nearly every year in finals.
The player who’s influence is hardest to curb I would say is Cameron.
He’s been touted as one of the best 2-3 players in the competition which is subjective and up for debate and he’s not going out there and kicking 4 goal quarters and clunking marks on blokes’ shoulders and kicking goals off it etc etc but I think it’s legitimate to say that he is the one player we’ve got at the moment who is finding a way to influence every game no matter what the flow of that game is. He’s running blokes off their feet, he’s kicking goals, he’s winning contested ball and clearances when needed.
Stewart is an excellent player and never plays a bad game but his intercepts and precise kicking won’t make us unstoppable if we can’t still get it past the middle or half forward
Cameron is the guy I’d be focusing on if I was a coach
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From a Swans fan perspective I don't recall Cameron (or Hawkins) troubling us too much over time.
We're not big on gorilla defenders so I suspect we've usually managed to cut them out of the equation by shutting down their supply, and perhaps that's an answer for other teams against the Cats.
Collingwood v someone
Collingwood by under a goal
Collingwood by under a goal
Cameron averages 2 goals per game vs Sydney so slightly below average
Hawkins is about 1.96 so again a bit below average.
Off the top of my head Hawkins’ best football against Sydney has a few times been ruined by errant kicking
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Your post suggesting Cameron's best value to you does not necessarily appear in the score sheet under his name appeared after I'd penned my post and is perhaps a very relevant factor at play here.
Even last night he kicked 2 and one of them was fairly opportunistic off the ground but he just runs and for all Hawkins’ attributes - and for a big guy he’s actually quicker than most people give him credit for - he’s never going to just run an opponent into submission. Cameron can do that and is doing that and it’s huge. Yes it’s cliched because the commentators mention it every game but Blicavs running combined with Cameron’s means there are going to be two very tired and logically very important opposition players called upon to bust themselves.
I think that’s something that we can really try and exploit. Putting real time into maybe two guys who can rotate off Cameron would be a starting point for an opponent I reckon
Pies talking themselves down after 11 in a row and beating the reigning premiers
They are in it up to their eyeballs.
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If we beat Sydney and finish top 4, we can then afford to believe. Until then, we are less likely to win a flag from 5th and lower than any other side (Freo, Carlton and Richmond) that also finishes 5th-8th.Pies talking themselves down after 11 in a row and beating the reigning premiers
They are in it up to their eyeballs.
Because we rely on a team first mentally/system now. Not individual players.
No extreme star power?
Hawkins
Selwood
Dangerfield
Stewart
Cameron
What on earth have you been watching? Certainly not Geelong games.
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My set of formulas is right.
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You don’t watch Geelong very closely if this your assumption.
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Hope so
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Another one from the odd 'century before' trend of Grand Final coincidences that has been going for 12 years now, perhaps Sydney Swans for premiers, given South Melbourne were last in 1922?
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I think south Melbourne was 1932
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Geelong-Sydney will probably be a relaxed and comfortable buildup without worrying about losing.
Would also be interesting as both the Cats and Swans were 8th and 9th in 1922
Would also be interesting as both the Cats and Swans were 8th and 9th in 1922
Honestly not sure, I think I see the Curnow and McKay combo as stronger and better in the air (plus I swear I rarely see a point between them!)
Hawkins and Cameron ofcourse are the more experienced and professional key forward pairing on the comp and are both having great years, but for whatever reason I feel we are more likely to contain them in a final.
