Society/Culture Why do less intelligent people gravitate to conservative/right wing ideology.

[Mofra]

The Daily Mail article reports upon a study by Gordon Hodson, a psychologist at Brock University in Ontario, Canada. (another Canadian Academic Psychologist but without a youtube presence). He looked at data from 2 UK studies testing child development. The subjects were
(a) 4,267 boys and 4,537 girls born in 1958;
(b) 3,412 boys and 3,658 girls born in 1970.

The tests were of
(c) verbal and non verbal intelligence; and
(d) cognitive abilities (number recall, shape-drawing tasks, defining words and identifying patterns and similarities among words).

In both surveys, 23 years later, the same groups were asked to answer a series of questions about traditions, authority and attitudes toward other races. Hodson then postulated a definition of conservatism which is undefined but looks to be based upon attitudes towards Authority and other races and concluded that low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservtive ideologies.

I’d very cautious about accepting the conclusions drawn by Grin and his gaggle of applauders from the article helpfully posted by Mofra

So would I.

Here's a meta-analysis that's far more wide ranging.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/55893129.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiZksKNiq38AhWmwjgGHVyFAdQQFnoECC0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw2xHhvNmp4MW8yHxMsywA_c

There is a significant body of work on the subject. Assuming the entire concept is based off a single study is folly.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Sure, but the Greens will never get the votes required, that is of course unless the Greens somehow convince people that capitalism is bad.

Meanwhile, you keep voting for parties that you believe are corrupt.

Does that not seem weird to you? Or is it more important to feel you are on the winning side?

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Meanwhile, you keep voting for parties that you believe are corrupt.

Does that not seem weird to you? Or is it more important to feel you are on the winning side?

If you dont think a bunch of socialists would not also be corrupt given the chance than my brother, you are living outside your head. Better the devils you know than the complete farce the greens would be - but that's my opinion, you have yours and you can vote however you want.

The greens whilst are not "corrupt" they certainly are hypocrites. It's funny how the greens publicly shame people with investment properties when several of their own senators have them also.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

If you dont think a bunch of socialists would not also be corrupt given the chance than my brother, you are living outside your head. Better the devils you know than the complete farce the greens would be - but that's my opinion, you have yours and you can vote however you want.

The greens whilst are not "corrupt" they certainly are hypocrites. It's funny how the greens publicly shame people with investment properties when several of their own senators have them also.

You are actively voting for parties you say are corrupt, because you know they are corrupt.

It’s a bizarre position to be in. You clearly dont want change.

There are other options as well, not just greens. But you prefer corruption.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

You are actively voting for parties you say are corrupt, because you know they are corrupt.

It’s a bizarre position to be in. You clearly dont want change.

There are other options as well, not just greens. But you prefer corruption.

no its not.

they have corrupt elements to it, doesn't mean the entire this is corrupted.

I just pointed out that the greens can be hypocrites on certain issues. Does that mean every single person in the greens is? No.

if you want cleanskins only running for politics. You won't have any.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

no its not.

they have corrupt elements to it, doesn't mean the entire this is corrupted.

I just pointed out that the greens can be hypocrites on certain issues. Does that mean every single person in the greens is? No.

if you want cleanskins only running for politics. You won't have any.

Just keep voting for the duopoly then. Maybe they will grow a spine one day if you give them enough chances.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Just keep voting for the duopoly then. Maybe they will grow a spine one day if you give them enough chances.

if its a spine you want, the greens wont give you it.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

if its a spine you want, the greens wont give you it.

I want the duopoly to end. Giving Greens the balance of power is the most likely scenario for this to happen.

Greens are closer to the centre than labor or lnp in their current forms.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

I want the duopoly to end. Giving Greens the balance of power is the most likely scenario for this to happen.

Greens are closer to the centre than labor or lnp in their current forms.

the greens are more centered than labor?

what?

if the greens ever got into power, they would make everyone left handed!

 

[Ghost Patrol]

the greens are more centered than labor?

what?

Check the political compass. Your bearings are out of whack.

You are nowhere near the centre if you sit between labor and lnp.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Check the political compass. Your bearings are out of whack.

You are nowhere near the centre if you sit between labor and lnp.

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sorry i missed the "in their current" form part.

Historically, greens have been much further left.

This was in the 22 election.

 

[Gethelred]

I do question whether Katter is that far left, though.

 

[Theseventhhamster]

I do question whether Katter is that far left, though.

Probably not in that he doesn't have coherent ideology, but I reckon he's come up with a bunch of socialist-adjacent stuff (protectionist and other) beyond your old fashioned stuff that Nationals used to known for.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

I do question whether Katter is that far left, though.

Left/right is the economic axis.

 

[mcnulty]

If Greens had the balance of power, the major parties would have to negotiate. Seems like a good thing.

Like when the Greens sided with Abbott to block an emissions reduction scheme, and help kick start the climate wars?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Like when the Greens sided with Abbott to block an emissions reduction scheme, and help kick start the climate wars?

You really think thats when the climate wars started?

Which other parts of history would you like to rewrite?

 

[mcnulty]

You really think thats when the climate wars started?

Which other parts of history would you like to rewrite?

I said kickstart. Can you not read? Both main parties took a CPRS to the election, and the Greens’ grandstanding was an enormous gift to the Coalition conservative wing.

Not only did it result in no CPRS it unleashed Abbott into the Australian public, who subsequently dispensed with Turnbull, Rudd and Gillard.

Thanks Bob.

 

[Sir_Loin]

Left/right is the economic axis.

The crocodile party thinks differently

 

[Ghost Patrol]

I said kickstart. Can you not read? Both main parties took a CPRS to the election, and the Greens’ grandstanding was an enormous gift to the Coalition conservative wing.

Not only did it result in no CPRS it unleashed Abbott into the Australian public, who subsequently dispensed with Turnbull, Rudd and Gillard.

Thanks Bob.

It's amusing how you blame the Greens, and not LNP.

It's all Adam Ant's fault!

 

[BluesFever]

Check the political compass. Your bearings are out of whack.

You are nowhere near the centre if you sit between labor and lnp.

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Your pretty diagram is wrong.

The Greens are the most authoritarian of any political party. Greens are also far left.

True Liberals are right and closer to the Liberterian (so in the purple area). Labor Is more left and authoritarian.

Katter and Nationals who knows?

Your diagram is painted from the perspective of a far left person.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Your pretty diagram is wrong.

The Greens are the most authoritarian of any political party. Greens are also far left.

True Liberals are right and closer to the Liberterian (so in the purple area). Labor Is more left and authoritarian.

Katter and Nationals who knows?

Your diagram is painted from the perspective of a far left person.

Hand painted by a left handed person, obviously. Regardless, your bearings are wrong.

LNP are not true liberals, you know this. Liberal In Name Only.

Most people look far left from where you are standing.

 

[BluesFever]

Hand painted by a left handed person, obviously.

LNP are not true liberals, you know this. Liberal In Name Only.

LNP is the Liberal and National Party combined in Queensland only.

Different beast to the traditional Liberal party which is much more liberterian. It changed under Howard when he banned guns (which was obviously a good thing).

 

[Gough]

LNP is the Liberal and National Party combined in Queensland only.

Different beast to the traditional Liberal party which is much more liberterian. It changed under Howard when he banned guns (which was obviously a good thing).

As much as he might might try to pretend otherwise, Howard's Liberal government that took office in 1996 and precipitated my almost decade long absence from Australia bears almost no resemblance to Dutton's Liberals of today.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

LNP is the Liberal and National Party combined in Queensland only.

Different beast to the traditional Liberal party which is much more liberterian. It changed under Howard when he banned guns (which was obviously a good thing).

Traditional Liberal party is dead and buried. Coalition is led by Peter Dutton, LNP.

 

[mcnulty]

It's amusing how you blame the Greens, and not LNP.

It's all Adam Ant's fault!

Yes dear, that’s because Labor tried to implement a CPRS, for which they received a mandate at the 2007 election. The Greens blocked it, because they wanted their own. The LNP did pretty much what you’d expect from them. Actually hoped for better from the Greens- lesson learnt.

Anyway Gillard gave them what they wanted, but the electorate rejected, ushering in Abbott.

 

[Puddy]

Why do lazy bludgers gravitate towards left wing ideology?