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I call them no rounders.Marcus Stoinis is right up there for me. I loathe "all rounders" who can't bat or bowl.
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I call them no rounders.Marcus Stoinis is right up there for me. I loathe "all rounders" who can't bat or bowl.
What was his excuse for the rest of 2019 where he scored just one 50?To be fair Stoinis is running around with two calf strains. We need a Seam bowling all rounder
Stoinis and Handscomb by far the worst weve played in a long time
Side strains.To be fair Stoinis is running around with two calf strains. We need a Seam bowling all rounder
Stoinisitis.Side strains.
Footage of him here (bizarrely on Dailymotion but not youtube)Richard Gabriel, the Trinidad opener who played for the Windies in the 1984 Benson and Hedges (please don’t smoke Kids) World Series Cup in Aus. Not helped by being surrounded by Greenidge, Haynes, Richards, Lloyd etc but this bloke was consistently sub-par. Averaged about 15 in that series and never seen again.
Tufnell
Although he does come across as a complete mug from his commentaryFielding and batting, yes.
Bowling? The guy was a genuinely capable spinner and with a skerrick of support from his selectors and his captains could have been a lot more effective. He took 11 wickets in an Ashes test - the guy wasn’t a complete mug.
Although he does come across as a complete mug from his commentary
Yeah he's a loveable mug like Flintoff, but when he started making that cat purring noise I couldn't believe my ears.I actually really like his commentary just because he’s a bit different to most of the poms. He’s pretty funny on some of the panel shows I’ve seen him on and quite self deprecating
Guptills issues at that level was he batted too slow and got bogged down. Played the complete opposite way to how he bats in one dayers and t20s. Not sure who gave him advice but it was clearly the wrong advice. Play your natural game. Guy has enough talent to be a capable test opener.Used to wonder how he could be so poor in tests yet such a beast (& pretty consistently) in ODI's & T20I's. Technique was never pretty but it's not like a white ball doesn't swing in the early overs of ODI's in NZ.
But yeah that was one of the most horrendous form lines for a batsman throughout a world cup I can ever recall. While unlikely could well still have a final to play in too!
Guptills issues at that level was he batted too slow and got bogged down. Played the complete opposite way to how he bats in one dayers and t20s. Not sure who gave him advice but it was clearly the wrong advice. Play your natural game. Guy has enough talent to be a capable test opener.
1928 to 1948 and only 6996 runs to his name. That's 333 runs per year, pretty ordinary.Donald George Bradman... only managed a 99.94 ave over 52 tests... that is pathetic! Im sure anyone could smash that record!
To a large degree Ferguson only has himself to blame. He under performed for South Australia for a long time - a batsmen of his talent should have been pushing his FC average easily into the 40's and really should have been up around 45, but yes you are right. When you see how many opportunities others were given with similar (or worse) state records, he must wonder what he had done wrong. He got one chance, came in at 4/6 or something crazy with Philander on a hat trick and copped a freakish run out a few overs later.Consistently anyway. Guys like Callum Ferguson must be shaking their head at how many opportunities they've been given over the last 2 years. Especially in ODI Cricket.
To a large degree Ferguson only has himself to blame. He under performed for South Australia for a long time - a batsmen of his talent should have been pushing his FC average easily into the 40's and really should have been up around 45, but yes you are right. When you see how many opportunities others were given with similar (or worse) state records, he must wonder what he had done wrong. He got one chance, came in at 4/6 or something crazy with Philander on a hat trick and copped a freakish run out a few overs later.
I think he was perceived as a bit soft, happy enough to bat well for a decent fifty but not grind out a gutsy century.... a bit too pretty boy or whatever. Not one of the boys. Correctly or incorrectly, those were the sort of phrases that echoed through the cricketing grapevine throughout his career. I think the fact he barely got a look in after his knee injury, and was given the ass after one test is a fairly solid indicator that he was not seen to be made of "the right stuff". I don't agree with that sentiment, but it definitely felt that way.
He should have been given another few chances in the test team, but what a shocker of a match to debut in, and there was great upheaval after that one with Smith effectively giving the selectors the finger. At the time, and for a long time prior, we were crying out for batsmen with decent techniques that would - hopefully - stand up on tricky wickets and he had one of the best in the country.
That South Australian junior team was so good. We'll never know what could have been as there is a myriad of factors in play but between Ferguson, Mark Cosgrove, Dan Cullen, Cullen Bailey, Trent Kelly, Tom Plant, Oswald Jacobs and Cameron Borgas the expectation was to get a lot of international cricket out of that junior team from the early 2000's - maybe not all of them, but 2 tests, roughly 40 ODI's and only two domestic careers of any significance from that lot would be considered very disappointing. The South Australian development system through that period was very poor and a large portion of the blame lies there but obviously players have to take responsibility for their own development too.
I don't think they expected him to perform so well when he came into the ODI team so kinda get stuck with him. Did his knee, got a few chances after that and didn't do much in those matches, but it felt like they couldn't send him back to state cricket quick enough. Same thing happened with his elevation and swift demotion from the test team.I agree with your comments on Ferg when it comes to the red ball stuff. As for the white ball stuff he was very good before he did his knee and he was never really given an opportunity after that despite solid domestic form. The ODD format probably didn’t help him.
Colin Munro. Watching him live strengthens my feeling.
Caught a bit of the Ireland v England test and Rory Burns looked just shocking. That technique makes you wonder how he even hits it off the square. His bat face is closed nearly everytime and his backlift is the strangest I've seen in a long time. Here's hoping he plays the first test
Weird technique but made a lot of runs domestically bashing the door down. Noone would ever say Graeme Smith, Chris Rogers or Simon Katich were by the book or pretty on the eye yet had the mental steel and confidence in their method to succeed. Deserves time.