Wally Carter
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Kev, do abortions go to heaven?
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Being pro choice doesn't make you pro abortion. Bill Hicks is about the only person I've ever heard of who is actively pro abortion.
Pro-Choice, pro-Abortion, same difference in the end.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/75707/pregnant_woman_who_shot_herself_in.html?cat=17
It's an old story but it got me thinking, seeing as Pro-Choice/Pro-Abortionists are ok with Abortion up untill about 24 weeks, would they actually be fine with somebody shooting themselves to kill their "fetus" if it were before the 24 weeks instead of the usual methods?
I mean, what difference would it make to you, whether the baby is being scrapped, burnt, or shot? Because it isn't a baby to you is it?
If a mother did what the above did because she didn't want it and didn't care about her own safety. She elects to cap the baby instead, are you ok with that?
Pro-Choice, pro-Abortion, same difference in the end.
Doesn't get much stupider than this; honestly.
I know Kevin can post some silly things and most of you get stuck into him but the way I read the OP it is a pretty straight forward question and virtually no one in the thread has actually answered Kevin's question. Instead they've decided to either ridicule him or go off on some emotional, irrelevant rant.
Irrespective of the woman's mental state in the example that KC has given, if a woman was to terminate her pregnancy or seek assistance in doing so, do people on here care what method is used to achieve this? In the washup it's the same result, the termination of the foetus. Do you only favour methods that are more palatable to your sensibilities?
Irrespective of what some law might say, if you personally don't think a foetus is human then do you care how it is gotten rid of? Does a foetus feel pain or have conscious thought or do you prefer not to think about it because the law says it's ok and that's enough for you?
ByebyeBrendan, I understand that you think it doesn't get much stupider but why. Explain it please.
And don't trot out the line, 'If you need it explained then you're just as big an idiot'. Pretend that I am indeed an idiot and enlighten me please.
I'm actually really interested in peoples' thoughts as it is a subject that really conflicts me, even more so as a parent. As a teenager and 20 something I was really indifferent to it and had only known one woman/girl personally who'd had an abortion. (odds tell me that there's likely more that I don't know about). Basically it didn't directly affect me so I couldn't have given two hoots about it. Now that I'm older and the father of 2 pre-school aged girls I look at it more critically.
Anti-abortion means you think women should not have abortions.
Pro-abortion is naturally the opposite and you think women should have abortions.
Pro-choice means that you think women should be free to make the choice as to whether they want to have an abortion or not have an abortion.
As for the OP, I don't see what point it's trying to make.
ByebyeBrendan, I understand that you think it doesn't get much stupider but why. Explain it please.
And don't trot out the line, 'If you need it explained then you're just as big an idiot'. Pretend that I am indeed an idiot and enlighten me please.
I'm actually really interested in peoples' thoughts as it is a subject that really conflicts me, even more so as a parent. As a teenager and 20 something I was really indifferent to it and had only known one woman/girl personally who'd had an abortion. (odds tell me that there's likely more that I don't know about). Basically it didn't directly affect me so I couldn't have given two hoots about it. Now that I'm older and the father of 2 pre-school aged girls I look at it more critically.
It's a stupid thread. Of course people care about the method. That's like saying I agree with euthanasia but I don't care about the method, therefore I'm quite comfortable if they're shot in the head or run over by a truck.
A doctor?Fair enough then. Answer me this, outside of the morning after pill that can be taken just in case or carrying a baby to full term and adopting it out once born, what other methods are available to a woman to rid herself earlier than full term of an unwanted pregnancy?
One cell: not a person
Just born baby: a person (though not as much of one as an adult - why we tend to save the mother)
In between: A continuum
I don't care about the method at all if it's just 8 cells.
I do care about the method if it can feel pain. I tend to think that shooting would result in instant death with no pain, so from the foetus' perspective it's fine. Terrible for the mother though, so overall a bad method.
Is this for real? The preferred method is of course the safest method in a hospital or similar facility.
A doctor?
24 weeks is a bit late for me. If there was an option to amend the abortion time frame to something like 12 weeks, I would be for it.
So, to answer the question in the 12 week time frame. No, to me it doesn't matter how the fetus/embryo 'dies'.
It sucks, but life is brutal. Each time I ejaculate millions of unique potential lives die.
It amuses me that even after Hammer cleared it up people still don't get the original question and try to deflect to the issue of Abortion itself.
It amuses me that even after Hammer cleared it up people still don't get the original question and try to deflect to the issue of Abortion itself.