Covid-19 Wuhan Coronavirus (COVID-19) - Part 4 - Ivermectin doesn't work either.

[Chief]

Continued in Part 5:

Covid-19 - Wuhan Coronavirus (COVID-19) - Part 5 - Get vaccinated.

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/in-focus/covid-19-vaccination-case-surveillance-051121.pdf In the peak fortnight of the outbreak to date (25 August to 7 September), the COVID-19 case rate among 2-dose vaccinated people was 49.5 per 100,000 while in unvaccinated...

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[eddiesmith]

I hear fellow Victorians blaming it all on SA for sending us the original case from their HQ. Do we not have a system where we test them at our end as well to make sure? Then we got that silly bugger known as "Case 5" who continued to work and socialise for almost a full week AFTER displaying symptoms.

Don’t know if it’s NT but someone is now going to require a day 17 test after people leave quarantine.

 

[Frank Bunn]

This is also called "science", and very little is incontrovertibly proven or disproven.

We go with the best available explanation according to the best available data at a given time.

That's more like Cargo Cult Science. An imagined hypothesis is offered after the fact for some observed phenomenon, and further occurrences of the phenomenon are deemed to be proof of the hypothesis.

 

[Crankyhawk]

what on earth was that last post? some sort of scammer?

 

[Total Power]

I happen to be cookin up a delicious chicken Rogan Josh. Hint to newcomers: put some tumeric, vegeta stock, and a few cardamon pods in your rice. Microwave your taters in some water after cutting them, a good 6 min plus depending on quantity. Use chicken thighs, not breast. You're welcome.

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Taylor how sick is my kitchen!?

With Pataks sauce? Jesus mate, you gotta lift your game.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

what on earth was that last post? some sort of scammer?

Russian hacker alert!!

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Don’t know if it’s NT but someone is now going to require a day 17 test after people leave quarantine.

This is already happening in China.

First you have mandatory 2 weeks hotel quarantine, but then you have an additional one week home quarantine

 

[FireKrakouer]

With Pataks sauce? Jesus mate, you gotta lift your game.

Breakfast of champions.

 

[yebiga]

Victoria set to extend lockdowns and this thread is deadly quiet. After 15 months of abject nonsense, backflips, inconsistencies, fear mongering, witch-hunting have only led to more and more restrictions. There is no roadmap out of this. The vaccine is not said to even stop reinfection. Even the most gullible are struggling to hold the government media line.

 

[Snake_Baker]

The vaccine is not said to even stop reinfection.

What?

Even the most gullible are struggling to hold the government media line.

It's not as if the clueless ever had a hold of it. They're basically cheer leaders.

 

[Crankyhawk]

Victoria set to extend lockdowns and this thread is deadly quiet. After 15 months of abject nonsense, backflips, inconsistencies, fear mongering, witch-hunting have only led to more and more restrictions. There is no roadmap out of this. The vaccine is not said to even stop reinfection. Even the most gullible are struggling to hold the government media line.

you call this quiet. what are you looking for, people to melt everywhere about lockdowns. Maybe look in the mirror for that (better that would stop your disingenous lies on this site)

 

[yebiga]

you call this quiet. what are you looking for, people to melt everywhere about lockdowns. Maybe look in the mirror for that (better that would stop your disingenous lies on this site)

The Covid conspiracy thread is much more active
Below is an extract from the lancet regarding vaccine efficacy - rationalise this

COVID-19 vaccine efficacy and effectiveness—the elephant (not) in the room

Approximately 96 COVID-19 vaccines are at various stages of clinical development.1 At present, we have the interim results of four studies published in scientific journals (on the Pfizer–BioNTech BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine,2 the Moderna–US National Institutes of Health [NIH] mRNA-1273 vaccine,3 the...

www.thelancet.com

Although the RRR considers only participants who could benefit from the vaccine, the absolute risk reduction (ARR), which is the difference between attack rates with and without a vaccine, considers the whole population. ARRs tend to be ignored because they give a much less impressive effect size than RRRs: 1·3% for the AstraZeneca–Oxford, 1·2% for the Moderna–NIH, 1·2% for the J&J, 0·93% for the Gamaleya, and 0·84% for the Pfizer–BioNTech vaccines.
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ARR is also used to derive an estimate of vaccine effectiveness, which is the number needed to vaccinate (NNV) to prevent one more case of COVID-19 as 1/ARR. NNVs bring a different perspective: 76 for the Moderna–NIH, 78 for the AstraZeneca–Oxford, 80 for the Gamaleya, 84 for the J&J, and 117 for the Pfizer–BioNTech vaccines. The explanation lies in the combination of vaccine efficacy and different background risks of COVID-19 across studies: 0·9% for the Pfizer–BioNTech, 1% for the Gamaleya, 1·4% for the Moderna–NIH, 1·8% for the J&J, and 1·9% for the AstraZeneca–Oxford vaccines.

 

[yebiga]

What?

Wakey Wakey

 

[Crankyhawk]

The Covid conspiracy thread is much more active
Below is an extract from the lancet regarding vaccine efficacy - rationalise this

COVID-19 vaccine efficacy and effectiveness—the elephant (not) in the room

Approximately 96 COVID-19 vaccines are at various stages of clinical development.1 At present, we have the interim results of four studies published in scientific journals (on the Pfizer–BioNTech BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine,2 the Moderna–US National Institutes of Health [NIH] mRNA-1273 vaccine,3 the...

www.thelancet.com

Although the RRR considers only participants who could benefit from the vaccine, the absolute risk reduction (ARR), which is the difference between attack rates with and without a vaccine, considers the whole population. ARRs tend to be ignored because they give a much less impressive effect size than RRRs: 1·3% for the AstraZeneca–Oxford, 1·2% for the Moderna–NIH, 1·2% for the J&J, 0·93% for the Gamaleya, and 0·84% for the Pfizer–BioNTech vaccines.
• View related content for this article
ARR is also used to derive an estimate of vaccine effectiveness, which is the number needed to vaccinate (NNV) to prevent one more case of COVID-19 as 1/ARR. NNVs bring a different perspective: 76 for the Moderna–NIH, 78 for the AstraZeneca–Oxford, 80 for the Gamaleya, 84 for the J&J, and 117 for the Pfizer–BioNTech vaccines. The explanation lies in the combination of vaccine efficacy and different background risks of COVID-19 across studies: 0·9% for the Pfizer–BioNTech, 1% for the Gamaleya, 1·4% for the Moderna–NIH, 1·8% for the J&J, and 1·9% for the AstraZeneca–Oxford vaccines.

Obviously your first meeting with medical literature? Studies usually do quote relative risk reduction to make things look more impressive, this is well known.

The idea is to use vaccines so that we don't get population prevalences of COVID of 10% or more. Higher prevalences would mean a more "impressive" NNV. That is not a good thing as it would mean disease out of control.

Although, from your posts, you are probably a young millenial, have no fear of catching covid, would be happy to let it rip through population and then seize the economic opportunity it could bring for you. Makes sense in your context.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Wakey Wakey

WTF are you on about mate?

Can you show me the data that supports "vaccine is not said to even stop reinfection"?

 

[Crankyhawk]

WTF are you on about mate?

Can you show me the data that supports "vaccine is not said to even stop reinfection"?

i wouldn't expect anything meaningful from that poster.

 

[Snake_Baker]

i wouldn't expect anything meaningful from that poster.

I'll wait for the presentation or non presentation of the evidence.

 

[yebiga]

WTF are you on about mate?

Can you show me the data that supports "vaccine is not said to even stop reinfection"?

COVID-19 vaccine efficacy and effectiveness—the elephant (not) in the room

Approximately 96 COVID-19 vaccines are at various stages of clinical development.1 At present, we have the interim results of four studies published in scientific journals (on the Pfizer–BioNTech BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine,2 the Moderna–US National Institutes of Health [NIH] mRNA-1273 vaccine,3 the...

www.thelancet.com

 

[Crankyhawk]

NNV of 80 - 100 compares well to pneumococcal vaccine in this study (5200)

1. Mooney JD, Weir A, McMenamin J, et al. (2008). "The impact and effectiveness of pneumococcal vaccination in Scotland for those aged 65 and over during winter 2003/2004". BMC Infect. Dis. 8: 53. doi:10.1186/1471-2334-8-53. PMC 2386805. PMID 18433473.

 

[Snake_Baker]

COVID-19 vaccine efficacy and effectiveness—the elephant (not) in the room

Approximately 96 COVID-19 vaccines are at various stages of clinical development.1 At present, we have the interim results of four studies published in scientific journals (on the Pfizer–BioNTech BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine,2 the Moderna–US National Institutes of Health [NIH] mRNA-1273 vaccine,3 the...

www.thelancet.com

1) This is a commentary which raises questions about analytical protocols. It does not produce it's own experimental data.
2) What does this have to do with REinfection?

 

[chelseacarlton]

That's more like Cargo Cult Science. An imagined hypothesis is offered after the fact for some observed phenomenon, and further occurrences of the phenomenon are deemed to be proof of the hypothesis.

Lol

 

[chelseacarlton]

Breakfast of champions.

You might need to set up a “ring of steel” if you’re dining on that for brekky m8?

 

[Better Loosen Up]

I happen to be cookin up a delicious chicken Rogan Josh. Hint to newcomers: put some tumeric, vegeta stock, and a few cardamon pods in your rice. Microwave your taters in some water after cutting them, a good 6 min plus depending on quantity. Use chicken thighs, not breast. You're welcome.

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Taylor how sick is my kitchen!?

Using Pataks sauce probably isn't going to impress any prospective indian maidens

 

[FireKrakouer]

Using Pataks sauce probably isn't going to impress any prospective indian maidens

I add in a lot of extras. Chicken stock, onions, garlic, tomatoes, lentils, salt, pepper, chili etc. Indian sheilas are gushing like waterfalls when I present this meal, I just gotta hide the empty pataks jar before they arrive m8.

 

[FireKrakouer]

You might need to set up a “ring of steel” if you’re dining on that for brekky m8?

Don't knock it till you've tried it. A spoonful of pataks on your cinnamon toast crunch... You'll walk out of the house feeling 2 feet taller m8.

 

[Snake_Baker]

I add in a lot of extras. Chicken stock, onions, garlic, tomatoes, lentils, salt, pepper, chili etc. Indian sheilas are gushing like waterfalls when I present this meal, I just gotta hide the empty pataks jar before they arrive m8.

If that lot can't compromise Sars-CoV-2 viral membranes then vaccines have no hope.