Covid-19 Wuhan Coronavirus (COVID-19) - Part 4 - Ivermectin doesn't work either.

[Chief]

Continued in Part 5:

Covid-19 - Wuhan Coronavirus (COVID-19) - Part 5 - Get vaccinated.

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/in-focus/covid-19-vaccination-case-surveillance-051121.pdf In the peak fortnight of the outbreak to date (25 August to 7 September), the COVID-19 case rate among 2-dose vaccinated people was 49.5 per 100,000 while in unvaccinated...

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[Pessimistic]

Are there ANY direct fights from India? MM Said infected case came via KL but scotty says these have already been stopped by those countries

 

[CatFan79]

Stuff like this going on in India must be a big wakeup call that while they are a country on the up, they are still a long way off competing with the big boys.

Don't let anyone tell you there's an 'under-class' in Australia. People in this country who complain about standards of living don't know how good they have it.

 

[Pessimistic]

Don't let anyone tell you there's an 'under-class' in Australia. People in this country who complain about standards of living don't know how good they have it.

conversely India would have maybe 2-3 times Australia’s population of very rich people

 

[Chief]

Don't let anyone tell you there's an 'under-class' in Australia. People in this country who complain about standards of living don't know how good they have it.

Oh for God’s sake.

You know nothing.

 

[CatFan79]

Oh for God’s sake.

You know nothing.

 

[Brad Goodman]

Oh for God’s sake.

You know nothing.

He knows, just doesn’t give a flying.

 

[CatFan79]

conversely India would have maybe 2-3 times Australia’s population of very rich people

Guess we're lucky here in Australia that the top 10% of earners contribute 50% of all personal income tax.... Aren't we?

 

[darrenmorgan]

Stuff like this going on in India must be a big wakeup call that while they are a country on the up, they are still a long way off competing with the big boys.

What sort of patronising bullshit is this?

 

[andrewmillman]

What sort of patronising bullshit is this?

Not at all.

Observation is many young indians (lets call them the Kohli generation) are extremely confident in themselves and their country, see it as India's destiny to be one of the "big boys" alongside US, UK, China, Russia etc.

These horrific sights are a tragic wake up call of how far they still have to go. America despite its screw ups with the virus for instance, now is pumping out vaccines by the boatload and is on the mend. China despite causing this whole thing is now back to normal etc etc. India sadly is on a different covid path.

 

[Brad Goodman]

Not at all.

Observation is many young indians (lets call them the Kohli generation) are extremely confident in themselves and their country, see it as India's destiny to be one of the "big boys" alongside US, UK, China, Russia etc.

These horrific sights are a tragic wake up call of how far they still have to go. America despite its screw ups with the virus for instance, now is pumping out vaccines by the boatload and is on the mend. China despite causing this whole thing is now back to normal etc etc. India sadly is on a different covid path.

To be fair your initial comment was pretty patronising, although I did take it to mean something like you’ve since described.

 

[Nuggetz]

Not at all.

Observation is many young indians (lets call them the Kohli generation) are extremely confident in themselves and their country, see it as India's destiny to be one of the "big boys" alongside US, UK, China, Russia etc.

These horrific sights are a tragic wake up call of how far they still have to go. America despite its screw ups with the virus for instance, now is pumping out vaccines by the boatload and is on the mend. China despite causing this whole thing is now back to normal etc etc. India sadly is on a different covid path.

There's no big boys etc. look at america, riots against police brutality, lack of infrastructure in marginalised communities, some with lack of clean drinking water, systemic racism. China who are wiping out an entire ethnicity in Uighars and if you aren't Pro Chinese govt then you'll be forced into an 'education' camp. Give it up with all this big boys nonsense talk. Just be happy we live in Australia, we truly are a lucky country.

 

[swingdog]

Wonder how much is being under-reported in India? Suggestion on Coronacast that it's a factor of 10, so instead of 3,000 deaths in a day, it's more like 30,000.

 

[Taylor]

Deaths are difficult to under-report, cases though - that's so easy to under report all they need to do is not get tested.

 

[swingdog]

Deaths are difficult to under-report, cases though - that's so easy to under report all they need to do is not get tested.

Not sure that's the case when you has mass funeral pyres and an overstretched bureaucracy not known for its efficiency at the best of times.

 

[Taylor]

Not sure that's the case when you has mass funeral pyres and an overstretched bureaucracy not known for its efficiency at the best of times.

India isn't devoid of bureaucracy and will notice people missing.

The way covid deaths would slip through the cracks is if they weren't diagnosed prior to their death - but we will see how many people are missing once it's over there.

 

[Brad Goodman]

Deaths are difficult to under-report, cases though - that's so easy to under report all they need to do is not get tested.

I'm sure we'll never know, but given 70-odd million live in slums there must be a few unnoticed deaths (in an official sense).

 

[Taylor]

I'm sure we'll never know, but given 70-odd million live in slums there must be a few unnoticed deaths (in an official sense).

That's possible. That's a huge number for 5% of their population. The numbers out of India are going to be shocking, their average deaths per day over a long period of time is 25,750 - half a stadium every day.

But it's a population of 1.3 billion. The numbers are going to be huge.

The challenge is to find out how they performed on outcomes compared to the rest of the world.

 

[Financialpanther]

That's possible. That's a huge number for 5% of their population. The numbers out of India are going to be shocking, their average deaths per day over a long period of time is 25,750 - half a stadium every day.

But it's a population of 1.3 billion. The numbers are going to be huge.

The challenge is to find out how they performed on outcomes compared to the rest of the world.

I know this is conspiracy, but are they doing some of this deliberately to purge the lower class?

 

[owen87]

I know this is conspiracy, but are they doing some of this deliberately to purge the lower class?

Doing some of what?

Explain in detail.

 

[Financialpanther]

Doing some of what?

Explain in detail.

Probably not able to say much in detail - I mean by letting the illness get out of control (so not spreading it on purpose but not doing as much to stop it)? It has a large population particularly in lower classes that might become difficult to pay for as the country continues to rise. I am only asking a question really.

 

[Taylor]

Probably not able to say much in detail - I mean by letting the illness get out of control (so not spreading it on purpose but not doing as much to stop it)? It has a large population particularly in lower classes that might become difficult to pay for as the country continues to rise. I am only asking a question really.

Unless someone has some demographic data to show otherwise I don't think we can look at this as genuinely as we can with China - which is about to hit a point where a large portion of their population will need to be supported by their single child who is needed to work - or the state covers the cost for them.

I would think India should see the people living in poverty as a huge growth market that if they can be lifted out of poverty via employment they will see their economy grow quite a bit.

If we are talking politically there could be an argument that India wants to target the virus to their undesired Muslim population - who they have gone after with their citizenship lists etc, especially in the North. Remember when the media there was running stories about how it was being spread by that group of people their government doesn't like a whole lot?

We should look into where their vaccinations were targeted.

 

[Financialpanther]

Unless someone has some demographic data to show otherwise I don't think we can look at this as genuinely as we can with China - which is about to hit a point where a large portion of their population will need to be supported by their single child who is needed to work - or the state covers the cost for them.

I would think India should see the people living in poverty as a huge growth market that if they can be lifted out of poverty via employment they will see their economy grow quite a bit.

If we are talking politically there could be an argument that India wants to target the virus to their undesired Muslim population - who they have gone after with their citizenship lists etc, especially in the North. Remember when the media there was running stories about how it was being spread by that group of people their government doesn't like a whole lot?

We should look into where their vaccinations were targeted.

More a political long game for a fast growing nation (similar to China) - looking how they target the vaccines will probably be telling as you say.

Like I said, it’s only a question on whether their government would be evil and strategic or good but accept more to do.

 

[owen87]

Probably not able to say much in detail - I mean by letting the illness get out of control (so not spreading it on purpose but not doing as much to stop it)? It has a large population particularly in lower classes that might become difficult to pay for as the country continues to rise. I am only asking a question really.

There's a very wide space between "deliberately purge the lower class" and "inept government" or "unwilling to pay".

 

[swingdog]

More a political long game for a fast growing nation (similar to China) - looking how they target the vaccines will probably be telling as you say.

Like I said, it’s only a question on whether their government would be evil and strategic or good but accept more to do.

Never forget simple incompetence (Modi's BJP was still holding mass rallies until very recently and his health minister thinks cow urine can be used to treat Covid) and tradition (people gathering for Ramadan and Hindu festivals on the Ganges).

On the political side of things, it's not a higher versus lower caste framing. BJP probably does quite well amongst the poor.

 

[Taylor]

They were blaming the virus spread on their Muslim population earlier.

That is right on brand.