Neither are Collingwood according to Brisbane.
But they are according to the person who matters Aish.
Brisbane trade isn't the only way for us to get him to the club.
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Neither are Collingwood according to Brisbane.
By far biggest issue for players from southern states coming to Brisbane is that AFL is very much a secondary sport behind Rugby League up here. Players are essentially nobodies. This may suit a small number of players, but not many. Other key issue is training facilities etc. are not comparable to other clubs, and this won't change unless AFL is prepared to finance upgrade (unlike Southern states, Govt unlikely to help much ... Their interest is NRL). Obviously success would counter some of this ..... But this will be difficult if keep losing players, the AFL downgrades potential avenues such as the Academies, and the big powerhouse Melbourne clubs treat Brisbane as a feeder club.On one hand, I think Brisbane would be stupid to let him go for nothing. On the other hand, I can respect them saying "enough is enough".
It's clear they're sick of young players walking out. What they need to do is figure out why it's happening. Some of it has been homesickness, but a couple of these guys appear to simply not want to play for Brisbane, something clearly has to change.
Seeing some of the comments guys like Rockliff and Hanley have made RE: guys leaving. Wouldn't surprise me if there's a toxic attitude among the team leaders towards guys who are out of contract and don't re-sign quickly, which would make them want out even more.
I have to trust the 2 ex Collingwood inner sanctumers at our club, that they are taking the correct path here... Besides, I love it when Collingwood doesn't get everything so easy, it happens so rarely.We're not the ones refusing to even discuss a trade.
We've traded with a number of teams in the last few years and made win/win trades, e.g. Shaw/Adams, Lumumba/Clark/Varcoe, Wellingham to the eagles, even Beams/Pick 5-25 and Crisp.
Nah. Absolutely OK with letting him go to draft rather than trade for essentially nothing to Collingwood (what will they have to trade anyway). Is the right medium long term action. As it was, any player struggling to get a game in top 22 in an injury ravage, Brisbane side that finishes second last, is not a great loss. Greatest mistake was picking him in first place.
It will not be nothing, that's the point. We get a great deal out of it.Why nothing?
Learn the definition of hypocrasy.
That is a fair trade. I get why the club is making him go through the draft, but he was a flight risk ever since we called out his name in the 2013 draft. Take the bloody picks, trade them for Bell and Casboult and move on. It's not like we are getting unders for Aish, we are actually getting a fair compensation for him.Would something like Picks 22 and 26 count as 'nothing' in your book? Serious question. What if the pies trade into a pick in the teens and offer that?
The pies actually have a good track record with trades (going both ways) that are fair.
What opportunity has he not been given?
This same bloke that is complaining about his mistreatment has been cited and acknowledged by the club as going out on weekdays and getting smashed.
He would still be at Collingwood if we had decided to pay his absurd asking price of a what, 200% salary increase when he hasn't played a game? Thats why he is leaving, because St Kilda thinks he warrants that.
Aish on the other hand is leaving because he isn't happy at Brisbane for a wide variety of reasons but not because he wants more money.
Freeman is giving up the opportunity to play at the biggest club in the country for money. While Aish refuses to waste his career playing infront of 3000 people a week. Cant really begrudge him for that.
That's about as mature as me saying I love it when everything goes wrong for Brisbane. As Neil Balme said on the radio the other day, it's not a great way to run a club.I have to trust the 2 ex Collingwood inner sanctumers at our club, that they are taking the correct path here... Besides, I love it when Collingwood doesn't get everything so easy, it happens so rarely.
But they are according to the person who matters Aish.
Brisbane trade isn't the only way for us to get him to the club.
First, you're in the wrong thread.He told the club his hamstring wasn't right. They told him, it's fine, go and play VFL, he played, he re-injured it.
He must be following the example set by senior players.
Freeman was offered a one year deal on close to base salary and you're criticising him for that?
Get off your high horse.
Not if Aish gets to his destination. Then we have egg on our face and look like a bunch of idiots. He is no Paddy Dangerfield.It will not be nothing, that's the point. We get a great deal out of it.
This is gold. Bravo.COLLINGWOOD football manager Neil Balme has challenged the loyalties of unsigned speedster Nathan Freeman.
“One would expect he would have a responsibility to repay the support”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...533141248?sv=a9107291b777e79dca41022d20328bca
Today:
Collingwood football chief Neil Balme has blasted the Lions' hardline stance on Aish's trade request.
“where's the individual's right? ... I mean, what sort of an environment would you be providing if you're making people stay?”
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-...manager-fears-aish-may-have-to-risk-the-draft
I am not concerned with how Neil Balme feels about how Brisbane run the club, I suspect that they aren't either. This is about the principle, and I for one applaud the decision.That's about as mature as me saying I love it when everything goes wrong for Brisbane. As Neil Balme said on the radio the other day, it's not a great way to run a club.
First, you're in the wrong thread.
Second, you're talking drivel.
Third, we're going to trade with you anyway and you're getting a good player at a discount price. Why are you here bagging us?
Collingwood could trade pick 24 + 26 for Syndey's pick 14, as they need the points for Mills. Aish will be around pick 14. Collingwood have optionsPlenty of clubs before you in the draft who'll gladly take Aish.
We got screwed with Longer, Polec, Yeo and Docherty, despite the fact that we traded with those teams.Not if Aish gets to his destination. Then we have egg on our face and look like a bunch of idiots. He is no Paddy Dangerfield.
I would be all for sending Aish to the draft, but we are going to get compensated by Collingwood. We will get Pick 24 + Pick 26 or Sydneys pick 14 after Collingwood trade their second rounders to Sydney. Either way we are not getting screwed in the deal like we did with Longer, Polec, Yeo and Docherty.
Personally, I think its a silly principle and a counter-productive way to demonstrate that principle. We'd happily* trade you what you'd need to satisfy Carlton for Bell and Casboult and you'd still have your own picks as well to use as you wish.I am not concerned with how Neil Balme feels about how Brisbane run the club, I suspect that they aren't either. This is about the principle, and I for one applaud the decision.
Freeman likes to drink ,doesnt like to be told what to do so he should suit your clubHe told the club his hamstring wasn't right. They told him, it's fine, go and play VFL, he played, he re-injured it.
He must be following the example set by senior players.
Freeman was offered a one year deal on close to base salary and you're criticising him for that?
Get off your high horse.
Nothing remote about it.On the remote chance Collingwood could offer 2 x second rounders, that MAY be worth looking at, given the points value for drafting Academy picks. Anything less .... Let him walk to Draft.
I fully understand, however, how do u know he said he wanted to stay at Brisbane if he was drafted? I think you need to take a look at your recruiters rather than blame the player. He was on a 2 yr contract and fulfilled his contract (unlike Beams). Now that he has fulfilled it, he wants to move on. I think the lions are actually heading in a dangerous direction where there will be a number of draftees who will try to influence not being drafted by them.Di
Didnt say he was hopeless & would prefer he stayed. Just that he is not critical & if we need to use the loss of him to send message, or even get future honest comments from future draft picks that they really don't want to go to Brisbane .. So we don't waste future picks, than it will be well worth it.
Freeman likes to drink ,doesnt like to be told what to do so he should suit your club
no s**t Einstein.hearing whispers that other clubs are circling aish for the draft