List Mgmt. 2015 List Discussion (No rumours or hypotheticals please)

[Mick Oxlong]

Why? Brandan is good depth. Believe it or not the Swans have terrible depth so not losing guys like Brandan is important.

Depth...he's s**t!

 

[Mick Oxlong]

Im not his biggest fan but with Jetta gone the club may see Brandon as a potential replacement. He has speed which we lack and who knows, he may thrive on a wing.

In the reserves!

 

[doona]

Im not his biggest fan but with Jetta gone the club may see Brandon as a potential replacement. He has speed which we lack and who knows, he may thrive on a wing.

He is only 21 off the rookie list. I dont think he quite has the footy smarts to be a dominant winger yet (getting in the game), to get himself in good positions. I think if he can own the forward pocket/half forward flank that would be awesome for next year. I can see him moving onto the wing, but not just yet.

I am happy we have him for 2 years. When he started as a rookie came from a long way back and has been steadily increasing his output.

 

[Troystenvic]

B Jack has been pretty good. Seems to bring consistent effort and doesnt give in which is good, Can't fault him on that. He doesnt have massive game and go missing for long periods like Jetta. In saying that is no Jetta but at least we know what we will get week in week out.

 

[Tuco]

Nah. Good on him. Handy guy to have as a depth player. I don't care if he makes it. But I definitely am hoping he'll push for a spot and force some accountability to those inside the 22.

If he learned to actually kick straight from a set shot and find the footy a bit more he might have been very good for us this year.

 

[scaryness]

He is younger than I thought. Few more important years of development left.

That being said I wouldn't have missed him had he not re-signed.

 

[Millky95]

I had him de-listed but he did play well in the back end of the season. If he can provide something in the forward half of the ground and play 15ish games this year and build towards playing on the wing, fantastic.

 

[Mick Oxlong]

B Jack has been pretty good. Seems to bring consistent effort and doesnt give in which is good, Can't fault him on that. He doesnt have massive game and go missing for long periods like Jetta. In saying that is no Jetta but at least we know what we will get week in week out.

And you're happy with that? I want better than this chump.

 

[Mick Oxlong]

I'll have to agree to disagree on Jack...he's useless! Clearly a shallow draft if we need to sign this kid up!

 

[RW]

Clearly a shallow draft if we need to sign this kid up!

Probably some truth in that but I thought he was OK when he came back into the side this year, just don't mention his finals

 

[The King!]

Bjack showed enough in his chances, as long as its not mega bucks far from our silliest contract

 

[doona]

Clearly a shallow draft if we need to sign this kid up!

Even if a strong draft, our list last year had the most players out of any club not to play a match. We don't have depth. We have top end talent, but have struggled with the bottom 6/depth unlike a club like Hawks.

Even in a strong draft, we would need AFL depth.

p.s. I agree with B. Jack. Like I said in another thread as a rookie started a long way back and is improving. I mean he is only 21

 

[Lakeside Swan]

Brandon Jack signs until 2017
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-11/young-swans-forward-signs-on-for-two-more

Wow! I hope the club know what they're doing. Seems eerily similar to the decision to give Dericxkscx 3 years.

 

[Lakeside Swan]

Why? Brandan is good depth. Believe it or not the Swans have terrible depth so not losing guys like Brandan is important.

I agree, but he's not worthy of playing seniors. He's NEAFL material. Given his age, position/type and opportunities he should have proven himself to be capable before now.

 

[Borough Blood]

Hardly. He's out of contract again when he's 23. If he has not cemented a spot by then (I don't think he will), let him pursue other opportunities. But definitely improved this year and certainly not the worst depth player.

 

[Superstar swan]

Good troll by the afl site. "Talented swan signs on" with a picture of heeney and brandon in the back ground.

Good news. Really needs to show something this upcoming season and cement a spot

 

[Mick Oxlong]

He is only 21 off the rookie list. I dont think he quite has the footy smarts to be a dominant winger yet (getting in the game), to get himself in good positions. I think if he can own the forward pocket/half forward flank that would be awesome for next year. I can see him moving onto the wing, but not just yet.

I am happy we have him for 2 years. When he started as a rookie came from a long way back and has been steadily increasing his output.

21 off the rookie list? Pretty sure he's a senior listed player! Pretty sure he's older than Heeney, Jones, Mills, Rose and damn sure he's as good as Derickx!

 

[doona]

21 off the rookie list? Pretty sure he's a senior listed player! Pretty sure he's older than Heeney, Jones, Mills, Rose and damn sure he's as good as Derickx!

I am pretty sure Brandon Jack started his career on the swans rookie list????

He was senior contracted this year yes, but when we rookied him he was a long way back and is improving every year and deserves the contract

EDIT: I could probably list tons of players that where mature age draftee's/Rookie listed players elevated that took longer to develop. Who cares Heeney is younger, that has nothing to do with what B.Jack is doing or where he will end up

 

[Mick Oxlong]

I am pretty sure Brandon Jack started his career on the swans rookie list????

He was senior contracted this year yes, but when we rookied him he was a long way back and is improving every year and deserves the contract

EDIT: I could probably list tons of players that where mature age draftee's/Rookie listed players elevated that took longer to develop. Who cares Heeney is younger, that has nothing to do with what B.Jack is doing or where he will end up

Nick Smith was a rookie, Brett Kirk, Heath Grundy and his brother Kieren too. But there's one thing about Brandon, he stinks like a poo! Now you've forced me to use poetry to illustrate that he's nowhere near their league and never bloody will be!

 

[V9x18]

Depth...he's s**t!

he's also 21, probably taking up very little cap space, is a local boy, works extremely hard and is depth in a position that we don't have much depth in.

i fail to see why this is such a terrible thing

 

[Millky95]

Nick Smith was a rookie, Brett Kirk, Heath Grundy and his brother Kieren too. But there's one thing about Brandon, he stinks like a poo! Now you've forced me to use poetry to illustrate that he's nowhere near their league and never bloody will be!

Did BJ piss in your coffee once? Nothing against you thinking he won't make it but why do you think he is so incredibly god awful?

 

[bedford]

he's also 21, probably taking up very little cap space, is a local boy, works extremely hard and is depth in a position that we don't have much depth in.

i fail to see why this is such a terrible thing

Because he would struggle at VFL level and if he wasn't from up there or the 1 sided co-captains brother, no one would have looked at him.

 

[The King!]

Surprised people are so anti bjack, we need a small forward

 

[V9x18]

Because he would struggle at VFL level and if he wasn't from up there or the 1 sided co-captains brother, no one would have looked at him.

agree with that. i think you'd have to be an idiot not to realise that him being kJ's brother made them take more notice of him.

but he's his own player now, he'll be on next to nothing lets see what the kids got

 

[Mick Oxlong]

he's also 21, probably taking up very little cap space, is a local boy, works extremely hard and is depth in a position that we don't have much depth in.

i fail to see why this is such a terrible thing

Who cares how old he is? Buddy and Tippett take up the majority, your point is? So no go home factor...wow! I work hard too, where's my contract? He is depth in a position we have no depth in...make up your mind, do we have depth or not?