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[Powerade 08]

It was pretty cool when forwards played one on one against defenders in open forward lines & the only time you threw numbers back was late in quarters or the end of a tight game.

Losing the superstar Full Forwards due to tactics is a pretty big price to pay.

The answer to every problem with the AFL is to have less players on the field

 

[Portmagpies36]

Dunstall kicked 1254 goals at a rate of 4.66 goals per game, won 4 flags and 3 Colemans. His record speaks for itself.




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That is a phenomenal record but I would take Tony Lockett before Jason Dunstall. Lockett is probably the best kick for goal I have ever seen, intimidated opponents kicked bags of goals and played in some terrible St Kilda sides.

 

[Jonts]

It was pretty cool when forwards played one on one against defenders in open forward lines & the only time you threw numbers back was late in quarters or the end of a tight game.

Losing the superstar Full Forwards due to tactics is a pretty big price to pay.

As someone that never saw it first hand due to age

It's bonkers to me that it took 50 years for someone to figure zoning would work better
Took soccer all of a decade

 

[JimmyBC]

As someone that never saw it first hand due to age

It's bonkers to me that it took 50 years for someone to figure zoning would work better

You could say the same about using the bench as a high rotation pit stop for mids.

 

[malcheski]

As someone that never saw it first hand due to age

It's bonkers to me that it took 50 years for someone to figure zoning would work better
Took soccer all of a decade

It's also a lot easier to zone in soccer due to pitch size/dimensions + not have to worry about full body contact.

It wasn't until the AFL went legitimately pro and players became athletes as opposed to footy players did zones/structures stop the dominant key forward, and even then it was mid/late 2000's when Fev/Buddy were the last to ton up did it really drop away.

 

[Willsy10]

That is a phenomenal record but I would take Tony Lockett before Jason Dunstall. Lockett is probably the best kick for goal I have ever seen, intimidated opponents kicked bags of goals and played in some terrible St Kilda sides.

Lockett ahead of Dunstall just. He was just a beast. Both excellent kicks though.

Pretty sure Lockett is already at legend status though.

I think Gary Ablett senior was the best of the lot in full flight though, he could do it all, his highlights are the best to watch.

He doesn’t have legend status, and probably never will because he has been involved in some shady shit off field.


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[JimmyBC]

The answer to every problem with the AFL is to have less players on the field

I'd go five a side

 

[Willsy10]

I'd go five a side

And still have Dixon and McEntee as part of the starting 5


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[JimmyBC]

And still have Dixon and McEntee as part of the starting 5


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Dixon, McEntee, Sweet, Evans & Narkle

 

[Butters and Pepper]

Lockett ahead of Dunstall just. He was just a beast. Both excellent kicks though.

Pretty sure Lockett is already at legend status though.

I think Gary Ablett senior was the best of the lot in full flight though, he could do it all, his highlights are the best to watch.

He doesn’t have legend status, and probably never will because he has been involved in some shady s**t off field.


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To me, Lockett loses points for his failed comeback, but admittedly he just shades Dunstall.

 

[El_Scorcho]

It was pretty cool when forwards played one on one against defenders in open forward lines & the only time you threw numbers back was late in quarters or the end of a tight game.

Losing the superstar Full Forwards due to tactics is a pretty big price to pay.

Bring back the Ansett Cup and trial a no-zone defence rule like the old NBA rule, where if you're marking space and not a player you concede a free kick. You can double team and you can switch from player to player but you can't guard grass.

 

[Haggas]

In Dunstall's peak years of 89-92, Scott Hodges was a better player.

Please don’t say this anywhere else but here and save us all the embarrassment

 

[Haggas]

Lockett ahead of Dunstall just. He was just a beast. Both excellent kicks though.

Pretty sure Lockett is already at legend status though.

I think Gary Ablett senior was the best of the lot in full flight though, he could do it all, his highlights are the best to watch.

He doesn’t have legend status, and probably never will because he has been involved in some shady s**t off field.


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Gary Ablett Snr is the GOAT

 

[Dutchy5150]

Gary Ablett Snr is the GOAT

Shame he is a POS though...

 

[glitch01]

Why on earth you'd give a guy like Keays three years is hilarious, he's the ultimate rolling one year contract type during a rebuild until you find a better option.

It's hilarious until you remember we extended McEntee.
As much as we can make fun of Keays he applies real pressure and kicks a few goals.


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[Doctor Feel]

The answer to every problem with the AFL is to have less players on the field

It probably just needs 1 less in each line. So 15 a side on the ground, make the bench 6 with no sub.

Having players at 96%+ TOG in a game like modern aussie rules is so ****ing dumb honestly. Its no wonder none of them can kick.

 

[240volt]

That is a phenomenal record but I would take Tony Lockett before Jason Dunstall. Lockett is probably the best kick for goal I have ever seen, intimidated opponents kicked bags of goals and played in some terrible St Kilda sides.

Lockett was much like Dunstall because he had most of his shots from around that 35-40m range and basically straight in front.
Both amazing kicks for goals, nobody close to that these days.

 

[sobrave]

Dunstall was rightly always getting there. Not really much more he could have done, his record is colossal.

I agree that generally there are too many legends. They handed them out a bit too liberally in the early days, seemingly to cover off each of the Vic clubs. But Dunstall was getting in regardless.

Jack is an obvious candidate but he ultimately may never be elevated despite his achievements because nobody cares if you didn't do it in the VFL.

Kenny Hinkley will get in there for the time he saved port Adelaide from extinction and for setting an all time record of 356 games coached without a grand final

 

[TazD]

Kenny Hinkley will get in there for the time he saved port Adelaide from extinction and for setting an all time record of 356 games coached without a grand final

He won't even make the HoF.

 

[sobrave]

He won't even make the HoF.

Gerard Whateley and Kane might make a special level above Legend to elevate Kenny to

 

[TeeKray]

As someone that never saw it first hand due to age

It's bonkers to me that it took 50 years for someone to figure zoning would work better
Took soccer all of a decade

Remember that players were different shapes and sizes back then. Almost all players these days are lean and athletic whereas back then not everyone was a run all day athlete. The switch to drafting athletes over footballers really enabled the sort of tactics we see in today's game.

 

[GoPorts]

Gerard Whateley and Kane might make a special level above Legend to elevate Kenny to

The special shrine he has in their wank sheds is honour enough

 

[Macca19]

Dunstall deserves it.

 

[NoddyHolder]

The special shrine he has in their wank sheds is honour enough

Neither of them would have anything as common as a wank shed. Cornes would have a wank office and Whately a wank study

 

[Macca19]

Always thought Dunstall and Lockett were really close, almost inseperable.

But had Lockett not been suspended/injured so much at his peak, he probably kicks 1500 goals