Postive And Negatives in GF

[YippeeYiYeo]

We never had twice the scoring shots midway through the third, and never got closer than about 4 goals

Meant 1st quarter. Think we were 1.5 to 3.0 and trailed by a goal

 

[Belltower]

Was at the game and noticed NicNat wasn't really jumping at ruck contests I presume he was carrying an injury???
Pretty sure they beat us at hitouts last update I got at the game

No. Nicnat had more hit outs than hawks combined. We also won the clearances. The only problem was because of the pressure we went back to blindly bombing it forward. We had no one running off the back of the square getting hand balls. Nic didn't impact around the ball though for some reason, seemed tanked.

 

[Belltower]

Positives: not still watching the game.

Negatives: in regards to "the bounce of the ball not going our way" I thought structurally about 80% of the time they were in the right positions Hawthorn. Just always in the right spots and always helping each other out. Bah.

There backline.....
Gibson 29 touches
Burgoyne 26 touches
Duryea 26 touches
Birchall 22 touches
Frawley 22 touches
Lake 17 touches

+ bucket loads of marks

Then you've got Schoenmakers and Hodge having crackers not sure how often they were back can't remember but just a domination.

The bounce of the ball definitely went against us. We were running free quite a few times and then it bounced sideways or over our head. Didn't lose us the game but it was obvious it wasn't our day. Nic nat got touched on the line on a goal that could have really lifted us

 

[ziad]

No. Nicnat had more hit outs than hawks combined. We also won the clearances. The only problem was because of the pressure we went back to blindly bombing it forward. We had no one running off the back of the square getting hand balls. Nic didn't impact around the ball though for some reason, seemed tanked.

watching the game live it was not contested, it was keepings off with soft kicks to free players all day. asa team we didn't stop this but at times like early in the third showed we could score and even win. that there was hardly ever a contest gave nic little opportunity.

 

[Matera LeNui]

The bounce of the ball definitely went against us. We were running free quite a few times and then it bounced sideways or over our head. Didn't lose us the game but it was obvious it wasn't our day. Nic nat got touched on the line on a goal that could have really lifted us

It did feel like the footy gods weren't smiling on us but yeah I thought they were in the right spots way more than us which is natural I suppose when we cant handle the pressure

 

[Milenko]

NicNat is one of the few players in our ranks capable of imposing himself physically on a contest.

He simply had a timid shocker; poor in both intent and execution.

Only he - and possibly the club - will know why.

 

[SpaceClef]

Negative - I still have the Hawthorn song stuck in my head

 

[ChampRevesby]

Negative - I still have the Hawthorn song stuck in my head

Its a good song, I like it. But I want them to go away now. Their self righteous hubris is getting to ridiculous levels atm.

 

[Auric Goldfinger]

Its a good song, I like it. But I want them to go away now. Their self righteous hubris is getting to ridiculous levels atm.

negative

i dont know what hubris means

positive

mckenzie will be back next season

 

[2006_Eagles]

Only just noticed this but in the pre-match photo Ellis was calming Dom's nerves. Good to see.

Don't know if this is true or whether he was just balancing, but I'd like to believe it is the former. Didn't have many touches today but was one of the few composed players.

I think Ellis is even whiter than me which is an achievement

 

[mad_eagle]

I hope none of the boys are silly enough to be reading the analysis from the media, getting well and truly stuck in...

 

[Eaglemaniac]

I hope none of the boys are silly enough to be reading the analysis from the media, getting well and truly stuck in...

I hope they do and it fires them up to prove them wrong by working harder and not making the same mistakes when they get another opportunity to win a GF.

 

[2006_Eagles]

I hope none of the boys are silly enough to be reading the analysis from the media, getting well and truly stuck in...

Truth bombs doe

 

[southcoast]

Positive for me - NO MORE SUBS

 

[Milenko]

F*** i'm annoyed we shat the bed on the biggest day of the year, in front of a massive TV audience.

The intensity we brought to that game was pathetic.

PATHETIC.

(yes, i'm still venting)

 

[Xsess]

I'm going to add two sore loser observations just because I'm in a shitty mood; one relates to the VFL making the team who finished higher and won both finals to get to the GF having to play at the Hawks homeground (I dont care about the G, crowd capacity or anything like that from a purely football perspective it sucks that Melbourne based teams have such a massive advantage), two relates to umpires refusing to adjudicate against the tactics employed by Frawley on Kennedy. Frawley tested the boundary in the first marking contest when he pushed Kennedy under the flight of the ball, no whistle allowed him free reign for the rest of the game. It is basically cheating but good luck to Frawley for getting away with it. Calling the umpires bluff.

Other than that, I'm done with Masten he's not suited to finals footy. Sinclair kills our momentum in the ruck, if he's not taking contested marks around the ground he's a liability. Looking forward to McKenzie freeing up McGovern as a KFF. Kudo's for Gaff, Sheppard and Wellingham. Shuey was solid but for two dreadful utensil ups. Darling isn't the KPF I though he was - will be a better 3rd tall behind McGovern/Kennedy. Our midfield is still no good. Not really. Still a fantastic season, great revival and much to look forward to as we head into another season.

 

[Eagleboy68]

Great successful season as far as I am concerned.
Made the GF against all odds and opinions.

Lost to the best team in history (arguably) so no embarrassment.

All good from here with Simpson I reckon and we will have our fourth flag soon.

 

[JEagle]

Masto not performing has more to do with his minutes in the last month and more. He was suspended then injured. He is the type of player who needs to play every week to get momentum goingand play well. The MC ahould have realised this given it isn't a new observation and had him as the sub w rosa to start. Intention would have been inject him at the start of the fourth or late 3rd w instruction to rack up the kms he does in 4 qters over 1 to exploit the conditions.

 

[SpaceClef]

Masto not performing has more to do with his minutes in the last month and more. He was suspended then injured. He is the type of player who needs to play every week to get momentum goingand play well. The MC ahould have realised this given it isn't a new observation and had him as the sub w rosa to start. Intention would have been inject him at the start of the fourth or late 3rd w instruction to rack up the kms he does in 4 qters over 1 to exploit the conditions.

Yeah I can't believe Masten wasn't sub. Oh well, won't have to think about subs again

 

[fidstar]

Is there a gif of Wellingham taking out Hodge?

 

[Double the Fist]

The bounce of the ball definitely went against us. We were running free quite a few times and then it bounced sideways or over our head. Didn't lose us the game but it was obvious it wasn't our day. Nic nat got touched on the line on a goal that could have really lifted us

I made the same observation at 3 qtr time.

 

[JinmboJones]

Negatives
Why didn't we come out with aggro at the start of the game and bully some of the Hawks players? I was genuinely surprised with all the talk about 'unsociable hawks' that they didn't try and rough up our players at the start. I would have thought Simpson would have given our guys some instructions about getting aggro and making a statement right from before the first bounce and we had the perfect opportunity to do so because the hawks didn't seem interested in doing so. I also would have told the players to target Mitchell and Hodge at every single opportunity - bumping, hard tackling, two on one pushing contests, etc, just annoy the crap out of them. We started the game like little puppy dogs and that's the way it continued. Just an embarrassing, soft performance all round.

 

[erbenz]

Negatives
Why didn't we come out with aggro at the start of the game and bully some of the Hawks players? I was genuinely surprised with all the talk about 'unsociable hawks' that they didn't try and rough up our players at the start. I would have thought Simpson would have given our guys some instructions about getting aggro and making a statement right from before the first bounce and we had the perfect opportunity to do so because the hawks didn't seem interested in doing so. I also would have told the players to target Mitchell and Hodge at every single opportunity - bumping, hard tackling, two on one pushing contests, etc, just annoy the crap out of them. We started the game like little puppy dogs and that's the way it continued. Just an embarrassing, soft performance all round.

Weirdly despite our overall lack of physicality I mostly remember the moments where Gov and Wellers flattened blokes and won the ball from the game

 

[Tazmania]

According to them mate (Dockers), they're the pride of the west..

Thanks for keeping them out of the GF (although I think we might have beaten them) because I'd rather anyone else win it than the Dockers.

Don't get sucked in by hawks supporters. They were saying these things to us as well in 2013...give it a couple of months though and they'll start lecturing you about how superior they are.

 

[fidstar]

Negatives
Why didn't we come out with aggro at the start of the game and bully some of the Hawks players? I was genuinely surprised with all the talk about 'unsociable hawks' that they didn't try and rough up our players at the start. I would have thought Simpson would have given our guys some instructions about getting aggro and making a statement right from before the first bounce and we had the perfect opportunity to do so because the hawks didn't seem interested in doing so. I also would have told the players to target Mitchell and Hodge at every single opportunity - bumping, hard tackling, two on one pushing contests, etc, just annoy the crap out of them. We started the game like little puppy dogs and that's the way it continued. Just an embarrassing, soft performance all round.

I don't think we should have come out looking to rough up a few of the Hawks. That's not our style and we shouldn't change it for the Grand Final, particularly against a team that's a lot better than us at it. I actually thought we were tough at it in the first 10 minutes or so, but after that we did turn to water.