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Well if that's true we should be getting a decent pick otherwise they would wait until trade closing time to chuck us a late draft pick, as they threatened to do in their peeved twitter comment straight after losing Franklin to us.

Maybe they have settled down and are now realising they are better off without Franklin so want to trade fairly. Fair would be their pick 19.

So I'm hoping the deal is fair and not just a discarded icecream wrapper.


They never lost Franklin to us. From what we're aware of, Franklin always wanted to come to the Swans. So in a sense GWS were trying to hijack the deal with a much bigger offer. They're just being bitter regarding their attitude over the Twitter comment about Mumford.
 

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Hopefully a few trades will start happening today after the FA compos are announced at 2pm, although given we have another week, it's probably more likely the recruiters and coaches will call an early mark and head down to the pub for Friday drinksies.
 
According to AFL site. Armstrong & White for Pick 40. Not the best return I would have thought. Hopefully, Swans have something else to play. Making the right draft choices (in the early rounds especially) is going to be crucial for the next 5 years...?

Swans defender Tony Armstrong and Jesse White could be traded to Collingwood as part of a three-team trade involving West Coast. The Magpies are reportedly close to offloading picks 10 and 27 to the Eagles in exchange for picks six and 40. The latter draft pick, 40, would then be sent to the Harbour City for Armstrong and White.
 
That seems very low for two players. White alone should go for late 20's early 30's. Wouldn't be surprised if there was an exchange of picks in there too, like a swap of second rounders.
 
It's basically Pick 40 + Pies taking Armstrong's salary out of our cap for White. A good deal. :p


Armstrong is apparently out of contract, no salary to take.


Not the worst deal in the world, neither were likely to get a game next year anyways.
 

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Armstrong is apparently out of contract, no salary to take.


Not the worst deal in the world, neither were likely to get a game next year anyways.

He has one year left...? Or else we would have delisted him surely.
 
He has one year left...? Or else we would have delisted him surely.

He's out of contract according to all the media reports over the last week or so. I guess it's a bit of goodwill towards Tony by the club to get him to a club that wants him through a trade rather than being stuck in limbo for a month longer with even more uncertainty.
 

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He's out of contract according to all the media reports over the last week or so. I guess it's a bit of goodwill towards Tony by the club to get him to a club that wants him through a trade rather than being stuck in limbo for a month longer with even more uncertainty.

If we delisted him then he'd be a delisted free agent and could get anywhere anyway. It seems to me that we're waiting to see what happens with Trade Week and if we'll have room for either/both. It may even be that we can keep one but not the other, so we're seeing which one we'll successfully manage to trade, not offering either a contract until we know either way.
 
He's out of contract according to all the media reports over the last week or so. I guess it's a bit of goodwill towards Tony by the club to get him to a club that wants him through a trade rather than being stuck in limbo for a month longer with even more uncertainty.

Fair enough, must have missed it. No idea why he hasn't been delisted then.
 
Wow, GWS traded Dom Tyson, pick 9 and pick 53 to Melb for pick 2, 20 and 72

I think that's a pretty even deal really. Obviously contingent on Tyson aiming up and becoming the star he was touted to be but I think that's a pretty good trade for both sides.

Good job by both parties in getting it done rather than fussing and feuding about it for another week.
 
If we delisted him then he'd be a delisted free agent and could get anywhere anyway. It seems to me that we're waiting to see what happens with Trade Week and if we'll have room for either/both. It may even be that we can keep one but not the other, so we're seeing which one we'll successfully manage to trade, not offering either a contract until we know either way.

Fair point but the earlier Tony gets to another club, the better from his perspective. If he waited until the delisted free agency signing period, clubs' lists are a little more full and perhaps Collingwood would have moved on from him as a viable option.

Obviously I have no idea what the actual motives are behind this all, but it makes sense from that perspective for Tony to get to Collingwood (or any other club wanting to trade for him) as quickly as possible, particularly as he hasn't had a brilliant last 24 months and I doubt half the competition is climbing over each other to offer him a contract.
 
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