No Oppo Supporters Re-signing Tex, Danger and Sloane *** Crows Only ***

[Cleric]

Hey McKay is very underrated..... at getting good deals from us

Maybe we should be sending him in to do our AO review. We could walk away with ownership of the Oval and maybe even the Riverbank precinct.

 

[Jars458]

Maybe we should be sending him in to do our AO review. We could walk away with ownership of the Oval and maybe even the Riverbank precinct.

Solid gold. One of the funnier posts of the year.

 

[MyLittleSloaney]

If danger goes we've got the money to throw at Jeremy Cameron. The problem is how do we bring him and aish to the crowd in the same year. Think cameron will command two first rounders.

 

[Cleric]

If danger goes we've got the money to throw at Jeremy Cameron. The problem is how do we bring him and aish to the crowd in the same year. Think cameron will command two first rounders.

If we loose Danger next year we won't even get a compensation pick good enough to get Aish with, unless we finish bottom 4.

 

[Golumless]

If we loose Danger next year we won't even get a compensation pick good enough to get Aish with, unless we finish bottom 4.

Would be correct if he was contracted... out of contract however could see us land him with a lesser deal.

Because PSD comes into to play and all that jazz.

 

[RePete]

If we loose Danger next year we won't even get a compensation pick good enough to get Aish with, unless we finish bottom 4.

That's OK. We are not a Victorian team so it doesn't matter. Our list is probably good enough to handle the loss anyway the media would say.

 

[baldandbroke]

Hasnt tex just signed a year out? Gray? Cotchin?

Sanders, my next sentence was that I would like him to sign on early, but we shouldn't expect it.

 

[Truck25]

If Danger leaves, I wonder what big name recruit we will spend the money on?

Or will we just roll it forward like we did with the Tippett money, waiting for the day when we landed whatshisname?

We get JC, trading the compo picks we got for Danger.

 

[Sanders]

Sanders, my next sentence was that I would like him to sign on early, but we shouldn't expect it.

And as my post neatly shows, why not?

 

[baldandbroke]

And as my post neatly shows, why not?

If you do say so yourself sir. Neat as a pin you think?

Why not? Because Dangerfield is neither Cotchin or Gray. Duh.

Or do you think that these two have forced all AFL players to re-sign a year before their current contracts expire? Or does this new law just apply to Dangerfield?

 

[Sanders]

If you do say so yourself sir. Neat as a pin you think?

Why not? Because Dangerfield is neither Cotchin or Gray. Duh.

Or do you think that these two have forced all AFL players to re-sign a year before their current contracts expire? Or does this new law just apply to Dangerfield?

That didn't take you long to forget I gave 3 recent examples not 2
And they rather neatly disprove your contention that it would unreasonable to expect him to sign. Clearly it is not unreasonable when superstars like gray & cotchin sign. Not forgetting tex

It's an entirely normal thing to do if you want to.

 

[cmndstab]

OOTC isn't saying that it would be unreasonable to think Dangerfield might do it. It's that it would be unreasonable for it to be an expectation of him.

 

[baldandbroke]

That didn't take you long to forget I gave 3 recent examples not 2
And they rather neatly disprove your contention that it would unreasonable to expect him to sign. Clearly it is not unreasonable when superstars like gray & cotchin sign. Not forgetting tex

It's an entirely normal thing to do if you want to.

Sometimes I wonder if you are just joking around with some of your strange positions on things

You are now arguing an entirely different point.

Let's recap shall we?

I said:

Now if you think all good players should sign a year before their contracts are up to avoid the media circus ... then I guess we have to agree to disagree. I'd love Dangerfield to sign up sooner than later, but we are always banging on about the breaking of contracts being the devils work - and here we are smashing a guy for no reason at all.

You replied with some examples of players that had signed on early:

Hasnt tex just signed a year out? Gray? Cotchin?

I said we shouldnt expect him to sign just because your examples did:

Sanders, my next sentence was that I would like him to sign on early, but we shouldn't expect it.

Then somehow you showing examples shows that we should expect it:

And as my post neatly shows, why not?

I said why not - and didn't miss Tex out on purpose, you can add him in if you like it doesn't change my point:

Why not? Because Dangerfield is neither Cotchin nor Gray nor Tex. Duh. Or do you think that these two three have forced all AFL players to re-sign a year before their current contracts expire? Or does this new law just apply to Dangerfield?

Now you are arguing that it is not unreasonable to expect Dangerfield to sign, because it's an entirely normal thing to do:

... they rather neatly disprove your contention that it would unreasonable to expect him to sign. Clearly it is not unreasonable when superstars like gray & cotchin (& tex) sign. It's an entirely normal thing to do if you want to.

I think you may be just stirring? Or your logic would also be ok with Woody Allen's classic:

“All men are mortal. Socrates was mortal. Therefore, all men are Socrates.”

 

[baldandbroke]

How would we feel if Danger signed with Carlton in 2016 :-(

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-12-11/blues-to-reveal-new-list-boss

 

[Dredd]

How would we feel if Danger signed with Carlton in 2016 :-(

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-12-11/blues-to-reveal-new-list-boss

Doubtful.

Danger wants to be at a SUCCESSFUL club. Not a club turning to shit with Trigg at the helm.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Doubtful.

Danger wants to go to a SUCCESSFUL club. Not a club turning to shit with Trigg at the helm.

Danger was pissed off at trigg over the sanctions penalising afc getting the best possible playing group... So no chance of joining Carlton!

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

Danger was pissed off at trigg over the sanctions penalising afc getting the best possible playing group... So no chance of joining Carlton!

"Our capacity to be able to do something, in short, in '16 and '17 is very live, so long as we're very disciplined about what we do in managing our current list, up to that point, TPP-wise.''

Thank Christ that joker has left our club. Feel sorry for Carlton, they were my VFL team.

 

[Elite Crow]

Danger was pissed off at trigg over the sanctions penalising afc getting the best possible playing group... So no chance of joining Carlton!

But Chapman told me one of the reasons they didn't sack Trigg was the player support he received from Danger and co. Did he lie to me?

 

[Golumless]

But Chapman told me one of the reasons they didn't sack Trigg was the player support he received from Danger and co. Did he lie to me?

No...no... Chapman would never do that. Also, Santa Claus is real, i swear.

 

[Samcro24]

Danger was pissed off at trigg over the sanctions penalising afc getting the best possible playing group... So no chance of joining Carlton!

In triggs mind they would be in up to the eyeballs.

 

[Sanders]

Sometimes I wonder if you are just joking around with some of your strange positions on things

You are now arguing an entirely different point.

Let's recap shall we?

I said:



You replied with some examples of players that had signed on early:



I said we shouldnt expect him to sign just because your examples did:



Then somehow you showing examples shows that we should expect it:



I said why not - and didn't miss Tex out on purpose, you can add him in if you like it doesn't change my point:



Now you are arguing that it is not unreasonable to expect Dangerfield to sign, because it's an entirely normal thing to do:



I think you may be just stirring? Or your logic would also be ok with Woody Allen's classic:

“All men are mortal. Socrates was mortal. Therefore, all men are Socrates.”

That's a lot of effort to dig yourself out of a very simple hole.

If similar, and arguably better players can agree a certain amount of time out, then there is no reason, none at all, to expect or think that another player can't or wouldn't do the same. They may choose not to, but it's not an unreasonable ask.

No amount of obfuscation can make this simple matter anything other than simple.

Players can and do sign at this point. And I'm not going to discuss it further

 

[baldandbroke]

That's a lot of effort to dig yourself out of a very simple hole.

If similar, and arguably better players can agree a certain amount of time out, then there is no reason, none at all, to expect or think that another player can't or wouldn't do the same. They may choose not to, but it's not an unreasonable ask.

No amount of obfuscation can make this simple matter anything other than simple.

Players can and do sign at this point. And I'm not going to discuss it further

Forgot who I was dealing with.

Glad you aren't going to discuss it any further - coz then I win the internet by posting last

Players should not be expected to sign at this point. And I don't need to discuss it any further.

PS - not a lot of effort to use the multiple quote function on BF

 

[Mattrox]

Cloke and Martin didn't sign until late.

Ergo Danger must sign late.

 

[GROTTO]

Grotto, a few have made this kind of statement ... about how it will be hard for THEM to handle the trolls and how it is only going to get worse, for THEM.

It's really weird. Are you saying Dangerfield should sign now to make it easier for YOU? So YOU don't have to deal with the occasional Port supporter and the articles in the local paper??

Ridiculous in my opinion.

When did I mention that he should sign to make it easier for me? YOU need to re-read the post again at no stage did I state that or imply that. Thats really weird for you to say. Ridiculous in my opinion.

In fact if I was Dangerfield and thinking selfishly I would wait till the last possible moment to extract every dollar from the next arguably biggest contract of his life.

From a Club perspective, we have seen in the past what this does to a Club and the impact that it has in delaying contract negotiations.

 

[GROTTO]

Hasnt tex just signed a year out? Gray? Cotchin?

Great post. You just owned him then.