News 2015 pre-season (Training, photos etc, THREAD FINALLY CLOSED, SEE NEW PHOTOS THREAD)

[rustyg70]

Anyone know how Didak did in his time trial when he was Kennedys age?

 

[jmac70]

An arguement over the first time trial after the Christmas break. Gee I can't wait for the footy to start.

 

[popin]

Anyone know how Didak did in his time trial when he was Kennedys age?

Didn't make it to training as was on a bender that time of year with taz and johno

 

[bucksisbest]

5 : 54 is a ridiculous time, even for an AFL mid

 

[TradeDraft]

Looks like Dekka might be right, maybe Kenno should be played as the small forward, (if the endurance issue remains).
I'm happy new players, (especially ones from other clubs) are leading the way.

I think he could be a Good Small Forward. Looks like he can’t do a Full Pre-Season as his Feet are a Problem

 

[TradeDraft]

Went to training this morning to watch the boys in the first session if the year. Some notes below.

Started out with a 2km time trial. Notes on the placings and some times below:

1st: Steele 5.54. Had a 60-70m lead the whole time.
2nd; Freeman 6.08. Also had a 60-70m lead from 3rd the whole time.
3rd: Mantiet 6.22. Fell straight into third from early on and held it. Was clear third for most of it, but got gobbled up towards the very end. Held off Varcoe in a sprint at the end.
4th: Varcoe 6.23.
5th: Pendles
6th: Crisp

2nd Last: Kennedy. Struggled the whole way. Was back with three ruckman for most of the run, made some pushes to get back to the running pack, but eventually taken over again in the last 200m. Biggest weakness of his game, and likely to see him not make it.
Last: Grundy 7.24. A long way back.
Maynard and Goodyear were in the top half, which doesn't say much for the rest of the list (as Hine himself said Maynard isn't good aerobically..)

Other notes:
Not really much else exciting to report on - most the drills were pretty small / tight with no real opportunity to shine. As everyone says, Freeman looked really sharp - a lot of energy, really nice skills (surprisingly) and just got busy all the time. Crisp looked pretty good a lot of the session as well.

Scharenberg just ran laps, Swanny just sprinted laps, Thomas and Young mostly just ran laps, Mason Cox just ran laps for the whole session (I think he had some injury in his hand). No signs of Marsh, Moore, De Goey.

I am more Worried about Kennedy then Grundy.

These Problems he has with his Feet and Legs are a Big Worry.

Maynard will Improve with Time though with that Stuff. Also he is Smart Footballer

 

[TradeDraft]

Neil’s Report from Nicks

http://www.magpies.net/nick/bb/viewtopic.php?t=76035

 

[BEEG]

running capacity is massive in the game now look what Port have been able to do

Hopefully BK had an illness because if not he wont be playing seniors

 

[TradeDraft]

running capacity is massive in the game now look what Port have been able to do

Hopefully BK had an illness because if not he wont be playing seniors

I think he is having Bigger Problems then with his Feet and Legs. Bit like Josh Thomas did

 

[NT.Thunder]

I know it's preseason, but disappointed to read about Kennedy and Grundy. I have no idea what Kennedy's attitude is like, so I'll assume that he is a hard worker and for some physical/biological reason he will never be elite endurance. I'm not writing him off, but at the same time I've never been convinced from what I've seen that he'll make it as an A-Grade midfielder and will need another string to his bow. I'm confident that our recruiting will continually unearth talent that will surpass him so he either improves out of sight and cements a position possibly forward or plays depth.

Grundy, big guy and happy to wait but once again I only hope he's showing signs of improvement for his aerobic ability. Will take some years IMO before we see the best of him.

Great news on DeGoey doing well and showing that he's capable of walking into a round 1 team. He'll have the determination, skill and attributes to play early by the sounds of it so kudos to him.

Also great to see Crisp up at the pointy end. Must have been tough for him to come as part of the Beams trade but I like the sound of him and the fact his attitude seems to be in the right spot is a massive plus for us as part of a shit trade situation.

Don't know anything about Mantiet, but you have to love a rookie that is putting in 150% to make the grade so good on him.

Varcoe doing well and hopefully he can add some class we've been lacking for some time.

I'm interested to see what times a lot of other clubs are running to see where we sit. Might have a peep at PA to see how they are going as they seem to be the bench mark for fitness.

 

[Apples]

Just spoke to PK cousin he was at training and told me he ran another PB , taking off a couple of seconds ! They did more running after and he was their amongst them all and looked really fresh and fit ! To all you collingwood supporters you should be excited with PK fitness but more importantly his footy smarts as he is someone who can actually play and has natural ability. He reminds me of my favourite player from the cats Steve J - freakish ability !

That's a personal best? I was at training this morning too and whilst PK did better than before Christmas when he finished last on two occasions, today he only beat Dwyer, Mason Cox and Grundy. Even Sharenberg beat him home. If he ran a PB this morning I'm a monkey's uncle.

I'll just add that the final finishers were Witts, Sharenberg, Karnezis, Dwyer, Mason Cox and Brodie Grundy last.

I've posted a full report over at Nick's BB: http://www.magpies.net/nick/bb/viewtopic.php?p=1544015#1544015

 

[TradeDraft]

That's a personal best? I was at training this morning too and whilst PK did better than before Christmas when he finished last on two occasions, today he only beat Dwyer, Mason Cox and Grundy. Even Sharenberg beat him home. If he ran a PB this morning I'm a monkey's uncle.

I'll just add that the final finishers were Witts, Sharenberg, Karnezis, Dwyer, Mason Cox and Brodie Grundy last.

I've posted a full report over at Nick's BB: http://www.magpies.net/nick/bb/viewtopic.php?p=1544015#1544015

Hi Neil

 

[DERKADERRR]

That's a personal best? I was at training this morning too and whilst PK did better than before Christmas when he finished last on two occasions, today he only beat Dwyer, Mason Cox and Grundy. Even Sharenberg beat him home. If he ran a PB this morning I'm a monkey's uncle.

I'll just add that the final finishers were Witts, Sharenberg, Karnezis, Dwyer, Mason Cox and Brodie Grundy last.

I've posted a full report over at Nick's BB: http://www.magpies.net/nick/bb/viewtopic.php?p=1544015#1544015

Where was Kennedy placed?

 

[Baird]

I haven't heard Adam Oxley's name once this whole pre-season, anyone know hows he going?

 

[Apples]

Went to training this morning to watch the boys in the first session if the year. Some notes below.

Started out with a 2km time trial. Notes on the placings and some times below:

1st: Steele 5.54. Had a 60-70m lead the whole time.
2nd; Freeman 6.08. Also had a 60-70m lead from 3rd the whole time.
3rd: Mantiet 6.22. Fell straight into third from early on and held it. Was clear third for most of it, but got gobbled up towards the very end. Held off Varcoe in a sprint at the end.
4th: Varcoe 6.23.
5th: Pendles
6th: Crisp

2nd Last: Kennedy. Struggled the whole way. Was back with three ruckman for most of the run, made some pushes to get back to the running pack, but eventually taken over again in the last 200m. Biggest weakness of his game, and likely to see him not make it.
Last: Grundy 7.24. A long way back.
Maynard and Goodyear were in the top half, which doesn't say much for the rest of the list (as Hine himself said Maynard isn't good aerobically..)

Other notes:
Not really much else exciting to report on - most the drills were pretty small / tight with no real opportunity to shine. As everyone says, Freeman looked really sharp - a lot of energy, really nice skills (surprisingly) and just got busy all the time. Crisp looked pretty good a lot of the session as well.

Scharenberg just ran laps, Swanny just sprinted laps, Thomas and Young mostly just ran laps, Mason Cox just ran laps for the whole session (I think he had some injury in his hand). No signs of Marsh, Moore, De Goey.

You got most of those placings correct Jelly Bean and normally I wouldn't correct a training report, but in this case your report has brought about a Ben Kennedy feeding frenzy. Ben did not finish 2nd last and he wasn't in the last 6 according to my notes from this morning. You're probably right that he was in the back group however. I watched him closely during the training drills and whilst he mightn't be a great time trial performer, he got plenty of it and worked very hard.

 

[TheFreshBanana]

How was dwyers time trial so shit?

 

[Apples]

Where was Kennedy placed?

Kennedy was in the back pack. At one stage he was 10th last from the photos I took, but he certainly beat Witts, Sharenberg, Karnezis, Dwyer, Mason Cox and Brodie Grundy.

 

[ottoman]

how does Shaz beat PK? I defended PK after his gastro time trial but being beaten by a guy who has just had knee surgery. Wow

 

[TradeDraft]

Kennedy was in the back pack. At one stage he was 10th last from the photos I took, but he certainly beat Witts, Sharenberg, Karnezis, Dwyer, Mason Cox and Brodie Grundy.

So you say BK is more of a Footballer then a Trainer?

As he is better when he is Playing Footy?

 

[jmac70]

When did the time trial become the ultimate measure of a footballer? I must have missed something over the last 40 odd years.

 

[neilk]

5 : 54 is a ridiculous time, even for an AFL mid

I know Steele is an incredible endurance runner but to put it in context this is the pace the best marathoners run for over 42km. This isn't a slight on AFL players, it's more that I'm amazed what the best marathoners are capable of.

 

[BEEG]

So what are the times the Port blokes are getting?

 

[Jelly Bean]

You got most of those placings correct Jelly Bean and normally I wouldn't correct a training report, but in this case your report has brought about a Ben Kennedy feeding frenzy. Ben did not finish 2nd last and he wasn't in the last 6 according to my notes from this morning. You're probably right that he was in the back group however. I watched him closely during the training drills and whilst he mightn't be a great time trial performer, he got plenty of it and worked very hard.

Hmmm, okay - there seems to be some doubt as to what I saw (and now I am doubting it as well).

Let's give Kennedy the benefit of the doubt in this instance. I will update my post.

Thanks Neil.

 

[TradeDraft]

I'm at training. Will provide more detailed report later but some time trial info:

1st Steele 5.54
2nd Freeman 6.08
3rd
Mantiet 6.22
Varcoe
Pendles
Crisp

Kennedy
Grundy 7.24


Hmmm, okay - there seems to be some doubt as to what I saw (and now I am doubting it as well).

Let's give Kennedy the benefit of the doubt in this instance. I will update my post.

Thanks Neil.

How did you get the Time Trial Times?

 

[Jelly Bean]

How did you get the Time Trial Times?

Stop watch.