List Mgmt. 2015 Trade & Free Agency Hellscape Discussion Thread (PG546: Anderson PG732: Bastinac)

[ozzyoslo]

I'm resigned to losing Basti, only because it's unreasonable to keep him given the Brisbane offer in front of him. I'd prefer to keep him but that wouldn't be the best for him. I'm sure he will be a solid player for them, and perhaps even a star.

We won't get 17 for him, so they'll pay unders. Luck of the draw. I would be stunned if we got Aish. He's off to Collingwood, no doubt.

Would be pleasantly surprised if we brought in another player in this trade period, and totally relaxed if we don't.

Agree.....probably next years 2nd rounder if Aish doesn't come our way.

 

[tazaa]

16,000 posts in under 6 months.
25,000 posts for Sympathy thread in over 2 and half years.

wow

 

[chubbspeterson]

Every club would have had a sit down with Treloar at some stage. We ain't the only club that missed out.
At least we're having a crack at bringing talent in. Might be easier to sell opportunity in a couple of years time.

 

[Rooboy 96]

Look this will likely get some more abuse because of past posts but seriously does anyone think Tomlinson is a realistic option for us now considering he looks destined to be out of GWS. would also be very keen on Jack Steele

did you say Sheil?

 

[The Dingrel]

Really?..

From what I've seen he looks like a jet, I reckon we should be busier than Hutchy in a toupee shop trying to deal Basti for him today!

Agreed, i do remember hoping we got him in his draft year.....was always question marks over his injury status though.

 

[Higgins2Waite]

We certainly did.

Bryce rated him.

Would we go after him again?

Why on earth are GWS looking to trade!

 

[giantroo]

GWS's Jack Steele name being bandied around with Tigers showing interest

Would love him at the club.

 

[Grogg]

Every club would have had a sit down with Treloar at some stage. We ain't the only club that missed out.
At least we're having a crack at bringing talent in. Might be easier to sell opportunity in a couple of years time.

Some of the wrist slitting in here is hilarious, eh?

 

[niko11]

If Basti wants to leave we can't get in his way!
Yes he might improve at Brisbane he might not. But i think we have to get used to losing players here and there its the environment we live in.
He has a chance to get regular game time elsewhere so that's life. If things were different and he stayed all the better for us but not much u can do.

 

[King Hansen]

We certainly did.

Bryce rated him.

First rounder

 

[ozzyoslo]

If we're going to take a 2nd round pick for Basti why don't they ask for next years. If it's a much better draft pick 19 might be pretty handy

Exactly !!!

 

[kangaspurs]

Spring chickens all of them, none of them will be still playing after 2017. Again problem lies with Swallow who arguably is a one trick pony (maybe he could be a back pocket player if he were to be taken out of the middle) He cant go forward, so its only in the backline for Spitta.
Sure Swallow has attributes way back when all of these young players come to the club worthy to be Captain. He consistantly found the pill whilst our young brigade learned their respective skills ........but now these younger players have 100 plus game experience. Lets be honest here there weren't many people at the club who could have taken over the role.....maybe in hindsight Boomer should have kept the Captaincy.
Swallow's skill set overall combined with his age is less than Bastinac's skill set and his age. I'm highlighting Bastinac age because he could easily play another 8 seasons for the club against Swallow's who say will play another 4 years and who will slowly and naturally give less up to the point of retirement , also Bastinac could play as you said the inside role. Remember Cunnington's output this year was lessened and a byproduct of Swallow coming back from his achillies injury. So as it stands Cunnington and Bastinac are affected by Swallow being in the team and the respective growth curves are being stifled.

Again I give you a sliding doors moment:

If we kept Boomer as Captain, would you have kept Swallow on the list , this isn't a slur on Swallow as a footballer he's solid, finds the pill , courageous and tough. But look at it from a list manager's point of view. Take emotion out of it. And its hard mainly the fact because Swallow is captain.
I'm not saying we should cull Swallow ( normal clubs don't do that ) as it sends the wrong message to the player group as well as the rest of the football industry.

I'm disapointed that we've invested 100 + games ( hindsight my be smart because the father/son) and we all know Basti can play.........and now he is in his best years now and I have no doubt that if he has the opprtunity to play his natuarl game he'll be an asset to the Brisbane FC.

Yes. He was a multiple BnF winner and just about our best player at the time. So many seem to forget this after his achilles injury.

Let me get this straight; are you actually saying we should sacrifice Swallow in order to accommodate Bastinac? Did you actually watch the finals, where Swallow showed exemplary leadership and inside skill? Sure, Basti may be slightly more skilled, but Swallow has something you can't teach some guys; heart, courage, determination and the willingness and ability to get the best out of himself.

It's the same when people say Bastinac should be taking Gibbo's spot. Sure Basti might be better skilled but he's showed nowhere near the courage to run himself into the ground, determination to succeed and the persistence to extract every bit of ability he has out of himself.

 

[Rooboy 96]

If Basti wants to leave we can't get in his way!
Yes he might improve at Brisbane he might not. But i think we have to get used to losing players here and there its the environment we live in.
He has a chance to get regular game time elsewhere so that's life. If things were different and he stayed all the better for us but not much u can do.

wrong, we can stand in his way as much as we like, he is a contracted player and for a further two years.

Brisy pays or Basti stays.

 

[GS WARRIORS]

CARLTON is on the verge of finalising a deal to secure Liam Sumner and three of his Greater Western Sydney teammates, as Sam Kerridge also weighs up whether to join the Blues just two days out from the NAB AFL Trade deadline.

Giants speedster Sumner, Lachie Plowman, Andrew Phillips and Jed Lamb are set to reunite with list manager Stephen Silvagni at Ikon Park, possibly in a trade involving the Blues' pick 20 and 21.

Speaking to NAB AFL Trade Radio, Sumner's manager Winston Rous said the deal could be pushed through on Tuesday afternoon.

"It's absolutely still on the horizon. I think that could be something that gets done later today or even tomorrow for Liam, and maybe even for those other boys that I don't manage," Rous said.

"For Liam, it would be a fantastic opportunity. He's had four years in the system now, he was pick 10 and through various reasons – through opportunity, how strong GWS' list is and through injury – he just hasn't quite been able to put forward the best part of his career."

Sumner didn't manage a senior game in 2015 due to wrist and ankle issues and the 177cm Sandringham Dragons product has been limited to just 12 games for GWS.

"(He's) a player with exceptional speed. He'll be able to play that forward pressure role but also be able to move up to the wing and maybe even pinch-hit through the (midfield) at different points," Rous said.

"He can run and carry, he does have that X-factor around kicking goals and taking great marks for a player of his size. So it's really exciting for him."

The four Giants could be joined by Crows midfielder Sam Kerridge at Carlton, with Rous confident the 22-year-old would get more opportunities at the Blues on a three-year deal, as first reported by AFL.com.au.

Reports suggest Carlton forward Troy Menzel could be involved in a swap for Kerridge.

"Sam has met with Carlton, there is an opportunity there that might unfold in the next couple of days," Rous said.

"Nothing's committed to at this point in time, we've just got to make sure everyone would be happy if that was the way it was going to go down.

"He's been injured for the most part of this year, has only played one game. They've got pretty good depth in their midfield, but he potentially could go to a club like Carlton and play straight away.

"It's that fresh start that he's looking at. Carlton put forward something pretty compelling around the meeting with the coaches and the role that he would play.

"That's something he has to weigh up now."

Rous has already helped seal a move for another Giant this Trade Period, with tough inside midfielder Jacob Townsend and pick 120 going to Richmond in exchange for pick 70.

"It's a very good opportunity for Jacob … they identified him a fair way out," Rous said.

"Probably their best season of late was maybe 2013 when Dan Jackson won their best and fairest. Probably since that time they've maybe lacked a bit of grunt on the inside, that real enforcer-type role.

"Jacob through his 20 games of AFL football is something he's really shown, he's really aggressive, a strong tackler and he'll give Cotchin and the likes a chop out."

4 below average players to a below average football club. Great fit, well done SOS.

 

[Egga]

If Jack Steele is really a trade option, we should arrange a tour of the GWS facilities for Bastinac asap.

 

[niko11]

wrong, we can stand in his way as much as we like, he is a contracted player and for a further two years.

Brisy pays or Basti stays.

Agree in getting the best deal we can and not getting nothing for him..

 

[scooby1279]

get the feeling another player will be at north next year through this trade period (no sources)

 

[Heaps of fun]

get the feeling another player will be at north next year through this trade period (no sources)

Agreed.

 

[NMFCARSENAL98]

get the feeling another player will be at north next year through this trade period (no sources)

you say you have no sources which is fair enough. out of interest do you think the player that may be coming in will be young or old and what position ?

 

[Mr. Blonde]

get the feeling another player will be at north next year through this trade period (no sources)

You have no sources? Or you aren't going to give us your sources?

 

[Pykie]

With GWS losing the 4 to Carlton, they are probably the only team with the available list spots to offload a heap of picks to.

Try and get after #8 + Steele when the Treloar deal drops.

 

[Ry009]

Agree in getting the best deal we can and not getting nothing for him..

Is he that bad that if he doesn't get traded, he'll fade off into obscurity so much that he'll be worthless next year or the year after?

 

[ozzyoslo]

Bastinac is shithouse. Remember all his weak efforts? Sure he might come good with more opportunity but he hasn't done shit for 24 months. Becoming a list clogged. Take pick 26 and run.

Can you remember Dal Santo's since you raised the question?

 

[NMFCARSENAL98]

Can you remember Dal Santo's since you raised the question?

i can.

 

[niko11]

Is he that bad that if he doesn't get traded, he'll fade off into obscurity so much that he'll be worthless next year or the year after?

Definitely not that bad he's in the best 25 of a Prelim final team and 100+ gamer..

I meant it for players that want to leave generally..