List Mgmt. 2015 Trade & Free Agency Hellscape Discussion Thread (PG546: Anderson PG732: Bastinac)

[tiltraise]

I'll humour you and let's say 53 goes up to 45 (it won't) ... are you saying 45 is better than 34?

No but 34 has much more trade currency than 53.

So trade 34 and keep 53 is the way to go.

 

[B4Bear]

People better prepare themselves for no first round pick.

 

[Harris 10]

Bulldogs trying to convince Brad Mckenzie not to sign so they can pick him up as a delisted free agent.

Is Talia contracted?

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Is Talia contracted?

He's out either way. Beveridge won't speak to him after the gameplan leak scandal.

 

[astrovic]

THE COLLINGWOOD 'PITCH'

JUNE 15 2015

7.30am - Treloar arrives to Magpie HQ with Pickers and escorted to Eddie's office, by McChins smoking hot ex-model PA (who gives AT the wink-n-sexy smile routine).

7.35am - AT and Pickers sitting in Eddie's office deliberately left by themselves to look around. Pickers points out the photos of Eddie and Obama, Eddie and the old Hi-5 band members and of course, the photo of Eddie and the Rock strategically positioned on his desk facing AT's chair.

7.40am - Eddie enters with James Packer in tow, gives AT a firm handshake and Pickers a bro-hug, then sits on the front of his enormous mahogany desk to get proceedings underway.

EM - "So Adam, Liam tells me your keen on returning home and would like to play in front of 90,000 a week?"
AT - "Ahh yeah.."
EM - "Well Adam my friend, you've certainly come to the right place"
AT - "Really?.. Pickers told me we were going skydiving?.."

*Eddie re-adjusts picture of the Rock more front and centre of the conversation*

EM - "haha ol' Pickers he pulls that one on all his charges.. anyway, have you met my best friend James Packer before?.."
AT - "nah"
JP - "Hello Adam, nice to meet you, Eddie tells me you want to be a Millionaire, HAHAHA that's a showbiz pun, BUT SERIOUSLY.. you want to be a Millionaire right?..."
AT - "Ahh yeah.. I guess so?.."
JP - "Well Adam my friend, I don't want to persuade you BUT if you sign on with the mighty Pies I'll throw a little sumfin, sumfin for you 'under the table'..
AT - *looks at Pickers* "what's a sumfin, sumfin? and why would I want four table legs?.."
LP - "look it's all good mate, these guys are more trustworthy than me"
AT - "ok"

EM - "Let me level with you Adam. You seem like a nice bloke with a nice burst of speed, so picture this: The great man Nathan Buckley tucking you under the wing and giving you unprecedented nightclub privileges that not even Swanny would get, including half price entry to the Spearmint and unlimited drink vouchers at Crown *turns and high fives James*. Think of all the Magpie Army embracing you and not spitting on you anymore, but the magnificent people like Joffa and his family taking you into their homes and throwing the keys in the bowl, imagine the fun you'll have at this place?..
AT - "umm yeah.."

EM - "Ok mate you sound a bit hesitant and I know this is a lot to digest, especially when you should be skydiving haha *gives Pickers a love-tap punch on the arm* but I've never said this to anyone before.. not even Pendles, not even to Buck's himself.. but if you come to the Pies you will be immortalised as one of the greatest ever to play in front of 90,000.. *whispers* (and James will give your girlfriend a job paying $400k a year out the back counting money) how does that sound to you??.."
AT - "really James would get my missus a job for $400 bucks a year?.."
LP - "yes mate believe what they say, they are very trustworthy and you'll play in front of 90,000"
AT - "ok you got a deal"

EM - "wonderful Adam, now Pickers will take you into the office next door and we will pre-record an interview for us to play on our website in October when the deal goes through"
AT - "but what if someone hacks it like the *Bombers and Atley fiasco back in the day??.."
EM - "Haha mate that would never happen, we have the best IT mob in the world at the Pies because we play in front of 90,000!.. besides if it did happen I would just deny any knowledge of it existing - as they say deny, deny, deny! haha.
AT - "ok"

EM - "well Pickers I'll let you take it from here and don't forget to take the kid skydiving!" *James, Eddie and Pickers false belly laugh*
7.45am - Pickers and Treloar leave for the office next door.

EM - *turns to James and fist pumps* "ahhh these gen Y's, it's like taking wheat off a blind chook haha! now lets fly to Macau for a bender to celebrate eh bro?"
JP - "only if you'll sing karaoke with Mariah this time.."
*both break into LOL's*

7.46am - meeting concludes.

Perfect.

You had me at "...then sits on the front of his enormous mahogany desk"

 

[Handsome.B.Wonderful]

Wouldn't be surprised if Pickering was holding Brisbane and North over a barrel by refusing to do the Bastinac deal until Aish gets to Collingwood.

That would be his style.

 

[jess_1804]

People better prepare themselves for no first round pick.

Because we're getting Aish instead?

 

[Harris 10]

He's out either way. Beveridge won't speak to him after the gameplan leak scandal.

So the question remains, is he contracted?
If he isn't why can't we play the same game the Dogs are with Mckenzie?

 

[Twinkletoes]

People better prepare themselves for no first round pick.

Thourthe or thenthe?

 

[Hearts to hearts]

So the question remains, is he contracted?
If he isn't why can't we play the same game the Dogs are with Mckenzie?

We can't play games with players whose teams finished below us, though - removes the threat/promise of ND or PSD.

 

[Moti]

Bastinac poised to become a Lion as Aish deal drags on
Nick Bowen October 21, 2015 2:49 PM

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NORTH Melbourne midfielder Ryan Bastinac is set to cross to the Brisbane Lions in a deal that complicates Collingwood's efforts to sign Lions midfielder James Aish.

There had been speculation Bastinac might get to the Lions in a three-way deal that would also have sent Aish to Collingwood, but the Pies will now have to reach a separate deal for the Lions midfielder.

With the NAB AFL Trade Period's deadline of 2pm AEDT on Thursday fast approaching, Collingwood is running out of time to finalise an agreement with the Lions, meaning North retains some hope of convincing Aish that his future lies at Arden Street.

In return for Bastinac, North will climb back into the first round of this year's draft.

The Roos traded their first-round pick, No.15 overall, to Hawthorn for Jed Anderson, but are set to receive pick No.17 from the Lions (the first-round pick they received from West Coast for Jack Redden).

North will, in turn, send picks No.38 and 40 to the Lions, which will ensure they still have the draft points they are expected to need to match rival bids for their highly rated academy players Eric Hipwood and Ben Keays.

Giving up pick No.17 will see the Lions lose 1025 points, but picks No.38 and 40 nearly cover that loss with their combined 884 points.

Collingwood's negotiations with the Lions over Aish appear delicately placed, and are even further complicated by the Pies' inability to finalise a trade for Greater Western Sydney midfielder Adam Treloar.

The Lions are understood to have asked for two 2016 second-round picks for Aish, mindful that they could need a stockpile of draft points for next year's academy players.

But the Pies have offered only the future second-round pick they received from St Kilda for Nathan Freeman.

Given Collingwood has set aside its 2016 first-round pick to be part of the Treloar trade – along with pick No.7 in this year's draft – it can't use its 2016 second-round pick under the AFL's new rules on trading future draft picks.

The Pies are expected to receive a second-round pick back from GWS in the Treloar trade, but it is unclear whether that will be a 2015 or 2016 selection.

As of Wednesday afternoon, the Treloar trade was expected to drag on into the final day of the trade period, leaving the Pies with a significant task of securing trades for the Giant and Aish before the 2pm deadline.

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So, this means that it all lies with the Giants giving up their 2nd round pick in 2016. Hold firm Giants!

 

[Rooboy 96]

You've said this a number of times and each time I read it, I can't escape the conclusion that it is just a ridiculous thing to say.

you just don't get it, 53 will always be better then 34, just get on board.

 

[Higgins2Waite]

Drove past the Gabba today. Looked inside. Didn't see Bastinac or Aish. Will keep you posted if I see anyone

 

[GS WARRIORS]

Matt Rosa is now a Gold Coast SUNS player after the club exchanged selection 31 for the West Coast Eagles midfielder.

Must be a bad draft if Rosa goes for 31. Bastinac alot better and younger than him.

 

[King Corey]

Will keep you posted if I see anyone

I'm taking that literally and don't fancy your chances.

 

[CharlieMortdecai]

Quite a few nervous nellies on the Pies board now. The meltdown will be hilarious if one or both of the Treloar/Aish deals don't get done by 2:00 tomorrow.

 

[buttsauce]

I still cant get over collingwood offering a 2nd round pick for aish, and brisbane wanting a measly 2 2nd rounders to get the deal done. That just seem so light on.

 

[AGC]

We can't play games with players whose teams finished below us, though - removes the threat/promise of ND or PSD.

Shame - we won't be able to play these games with the Dogs for the foreseeable future then!

 

[scooby1279]

sounds to me lions and north may have struck a deal under the table agreement possibly.

 

[motlopfan]

Email from North just hit my Inbox, title “End of Season Sale”

Too busy to read anything but the headlines but it looks like Jack Ziebell is available for $79.99. Bit cheap is my first impression. No mention of what picks we want though.

 

[Tas]

sounds to me lions and north may have struck a deal under the table agreement possibly.

Under the table?

 

[Tas]

Email from North just hit my Inbox, title “End of Season Sale”

Too busy to read anything but the headlines but it looks like Jack Ziebell is available for $79.99. Bit cheap is my first impression. No mention of what picks we want though.

53. it has more value than 34. :stern look

 

[chubbspeterson]

What about Marchbank from GWS? BFNAAK

 

[NMFCARSENAL98]

My take, we have a non-Aish and an Aish deal signed off by Brisbane. We hit the go button when one is the final choice. This will be a midday tomorrow kind of deal I think.

sounds to me lions and north may have struck a deal under the table agreement possibly.

? For Aish?

 

[Shagga is all Class]

What about Marchbank from GWS? BFNAAK

He wants to go to Collingwood TM.