Retired # 4: Jobe Watson - Now coach at Xavier College 28/11

[vast]

Does that actually happen? Genuine question. Can't recall ever hearing of it/seeing it.

For endorsements dont know of specifics but players would become somewhat more marketable having won a brownlow though.

As for the contracts I have heard players and coaches getting bonuses for reaching certain milestones/achievements. ie bnf placing, ladder postion etc.

I remember Eade got a bonus in 1996 as his manager put in a specific clause to say that if sydney made the gf he got an extra sum for the year.

As for the brownlow cant imagine any players having a clause for a pure cash bonus (except maybe judd lol) but more around the memorabilia profits etc.

 

[ant555]

Still the one measured source that deals with facts and absolutely nails this IMO. The fact that Chip Le Grand's voice still barely gets heard, or at least registered above the crowd of screamers on both sides of this is so sad. Read this, but prepare to be really frustrated, once again, that it has come to this.

Everyone should be forced to read this before having an opinion on the matter.

 

[astrowizzle]

Everyone should be forced to read this before having an opinion on the matter.

Problem is most of em have 3teeth and can't read

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Love Jon Ralph's article today arguing how Sam Mitchell so deserves a Brownlow. He only wrote that because he's dying for Cotchin to get it. What a ******* knob!

 

[yaco55]

Chip was on RSN's breakfast show today - Spent time discussing the loose ends after Watson's decision to hand back his Brownlow medal - Player compensation; Apparently half the claims have been settled with an average in the low hundred's of thousands - One or two players are still holding out and that Watson and Crameri are the most problematic cases - Stated the cost will be around 10 million - Finally, Danks appeal against the decision of the AFL's Anti Doping Tribunal occurs 21 November.

 

[Conor Mckenna]

Nah, he only did it before the AFL took it off him, some on social media are saying!!

Are they booing as well...haters gonna hate...Jobe just took it to the next level...SO Proud of him and rapt he came back..legend

 

[Conor Mckenna]

It's time the club faced the future. Watson, sadly, isn't that future. Don't make the decision on emotion.

DONT MAKE ME DISS YOU Doss..
No shooting Bambi ffs

Go watch the 93 gf as pennance.

 

[harrisendblue]

Love Jon Ralph's article today arguing how Sam Mitchell so deserves a Brownlow. He only wrote that because he's dying for Cotchin to get it. What a ******* knob!

well on this issue he is actually correct. both cotchin and mitchell deserve the medal now that jobe is ineligible.

 

[Doss]

Well Harris has spoken, I guess that's the end of that.

 

[pepsi]

I do agree with him though. They should be awarded the medal.

 

[Doss]

I don't necessarily disagree either. I don't particularly care to be honest.

 

[Jade]

Rick's wrong. Time Heppell ascends to the captaincy.

Exceptionally nice guy though.

 

[Jade]

Really would have preferred that Hird stay out of it

If he's asked, he either answers or refuses to comment.

Any guess on the headlines if he does the latter?

 

[pepsi]

If I was a Richmond or Hawthorn fan I would care.

 

[Doss]

If I was a Richmond or Hawthorn fan I would care.

Of course you would.

But we are not Richmond or Hawthorn fans, we are Essendon fans and what happens with the medal now doesn't affect us at all. If they get a retrospective, good luck to them. If they don't...meh.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

well on this issue he is actually correct. both cotchin and mitchell deserve the medal now that jobe is ineligible.

I don't agree. People like Ralph use McKernan and Grant as examples, but those two guys did deliberate acts to earn their suspensions. Therefore are we saying that Jobe deliberately set out to cheat? Think that's where some commissioners may have issue with.

 

[harrisendblue]

I don't agree. People like Ralph use McKernan and Grant as examples, but those two guys did deliberate acts to earn their suspensions. Therefore are we saying that Jobe deliberately set out to cheat? Think that's where some commissioners may have issue with.

well the point of your argument centers on the word deliberate which i don't believe is the issue. Those two guys you quote were reported , found guilty and then suspended. whether it was deliberate act would have been considered whilst determining their guilt. You can be suspended for committing an act that was not deliberate eg careless conduct and that will be reflected in the penalty. why I agree with ralph , though I am no fan of his by the way, is that the same has happened to jobe ie charged, found guilty and suspended. Regardless of your point of view he has been suspended and therefore cannot be considered the fairest in that year. Clearly disappointing for him and obviously this disappointment will form part of his deserved compensation claim.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Under the points system weren't there players who missed games but were still eligible??

 

[harrisendblue]

Under the points system weren't there players who missed games but were still eligible??

Yes for minor charges that whilst proven guilty were minor and deemed to not impact on the Brownlow. This is not the case with the Jobe issue.

 

[Andronicus]

well the point of your argument centers on the word deliberate which i don't believe is the issue. Those two guys you quote were reported , found guilty and then suspended. whether it was deliberate act would have been considered whilst determining their guilt. You can be suspended for committing an act that was not deliberate eg careless conduct and that will be reflected in the penalty. why I agree with ralph , though I am no fan of his by the way, is that the same has happened to jobe ie charged, found guilty and suspended. Regardless of your point of view he has been suspended and therefore cannot be considered the fairest in that year. Clearly disappointing for him and obviously this disappointment will form part of his deserved compensation claim.

Not that I think you have been particularly inflammatory or unreasonable, but aren't there numerous threads all over BF that you could go to and talk about things like this?

I'm sure you'd understand that the last 4 years have seen more than a few trolls target everything Essendon, and Essendon supporters kinda like talking to other Essendon supporters instead of defending opinions against the masses.

 

[harrisendblue]

Not that I think you have been particularly inflammatory or unreasonable, but aren't there numerous threads all over BF that you could go to and talk about things like this?

I'm sure you'd understand that the last 4 years have seen more than a few trolls target everything Essendon, and Essendon supporters kinda like talking to other Essendon supporters instead of defending opinions against the masses.

Happy to not deliberately inflame just thought it was an open thread. if that's the rule then perhaps all those threads should be closed to outsiders.

 

[mike14]

well the point of your argument centers on the word deliberate which i don't believe is the issue. Those two guys you quote were reported , found guilty and then suspended. whether it was deliberate act would have been considered whilst determining their guilt. You can be suspended for committing an act that was not deliberate eg careless conduct and that will be reflected in the penalty. why I agree with ralph , though I am no fan of his by the way, is that the same has happened to jobe ie charged, found guilty and suspended. Regardless of your point of view he has been suspended and therefore cannot be considered the fairest in that year. Clearly disappointing for him and obviously this disappointment will form part of his deserved compensation claim.

Not that I necessarily agree with this but; you could argue that Jobe (and the rest) were found not guilty by the AFL tribunal, however the same action was reviewed by a different body who reached a different conclusion. To draw a long bow (and related to other offences), if I punch a guy on the field and for some reason get let off by the tribunal, put he takes me to caught and I'm found guilty of assault, am I still eligible for the Brownlow?

 

[Dave]

Not that I think you have been particularly inflammatory or unreasonable, but aren't there numerous threads all over BF that you could go to and talk about things like this?

I'm sure you'd understand that the last 4 years have seen more than a few trolls target everything Essendon, and Essendon supporters kinda like talking to other Essendon supporters instead of defending opinions against the masses.

Particularly given his stance on Jobe:

integrity from watson? with his bloodlines integrity has been breed out of his dna.

Maybe it's time he buggered off.

 

[Beerfish]

You've had your say harrisendblue and we've been quite accommodating considering your posts elsewhere but I can't really see any value in you sticking around so it's probably best you move along before things get nasty.

 

[Andronicus]

Happy to not deliberately inflame just thought it was an open thread. if that's the rule then perhaps all those threads should be closed to outsiders.

Or you know, maybe you can talk in one of the many other options.

Coming here to espouse your views suggests you have a target audience. Especially when you offer advice regarding how our board should be run.