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'They'd run a picture of me looking forlorn': How a drug-cheat label sticks

Like Australian swimmer Shayna Jack, Tasmanian athlete Camilla Fogagnolo knows what it’s like to be branded ‘dirty’.

www.theage.com.au

Then there was a race walker who said the nandrolone he was flagged for came from having oral sex with his pregnant wife. (He was cleared.)

 

[This Is Anfield]

'They'd run a picture of me looking forlorn': How a drug-cheat label sticks

Like Australian swimmer Shayna Jack, Tasmanian athlete Camilla Fogagnolo knows what it’s like to be branded ‘dirty’.

www.theage.com.au

Then there was a race walker who said the nandrolone he was flagged for came from having oral sex with his pregnant wife. (He was cleared.)

Love Is The Drug...

 

[SumTingWong]

Walloped by heat wave, Greenland sees massive ice melt

BERLIN (AP) — The heat wave that smashed high temperature records in five European countries a week ago is now over Greenland, accelerating the melting of the island's ice sheet and causing massive ice loss in the Arctic.

apnews.com

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Oh where to begin. I'll give you some inconvenient facts. The alarmists are at it again and fortunately for them people such as yourself eat it up like cherry pie.

So................ the article states
"10 billion tons (11 billion U.S. tons) of ice was lost to the oceans by surface melt on Wednesday alone".
In two days in November last year Greenland gained 22 billion tonnes of ice. And that's during Autumn! And as you can see there has been no ice mass average change over the last 30 years. That's 30 years FFS but all you see are the articles like the ones below.

This is just propaganda and lies. Why don't they balance that with what is gained during WINTER? We only hear about the days of the most loss. Never the days of the most ice gain resulting in hysterical claims like these:


And from the article you posted: "Mottram said since June 1 — roughly the start of the ice-loss season — the Greenland ice sheet has lost 240 gigatons (240 billion metric tons) this year. That compares with 290 gigatons lost overall in the 2012 melt season, which usually goes through the end of August." What about telling us how much ice was gained??????

Here's some data from the Danish Meteorologic institute. Over the past three years, Greenland’s surface has gained 250 billion tons more ice than normal. 2017 : +200 billion 2018 : +150 billion 2019 : -100 billion


" If all the ice in Greenland melted — which would take centuries — the world’s oceans would rise by 7.2 meters (23 feet, 7 inches), the study found." Which study? And why the hell would it all melt? There's no evidence to say it all would anyway. This is just fear propaganda.

"The current melting has been brought on by the arrival of the same warm air from North Africa and Spain that melted European cities and towns last week, setting national temperature records in Belgium, Germany, Luxembourg, the Netherlands and Britain."
This is a complete lie as the air mass responsible for the European heatwave had long gone, energy dissipated by numerous thunderstorms and in fact contributed to the July 28/29 Southeastern Greenland precipitations that almost brought the island to mass balance.
Most of Greenland has been under anticyclonic conditions since July 24 -before the European heatwave- to August 2 -well after the heatwave passed-.

 

[Sir_Loin]

Oh where to begin. I'll give you some inconvenient facts. The alarmists are at it again and fortunately for them people such as yourself eat it up like cherry pie.

So................ the article states
"10 billion tons (11 billion U.S. tons) of ice was lost to the oceans by surface melt on Wednesday alone".
In two days in November last year Greenland gained 22 billion tonnes of ice. And that's during Autumn! And as you can see there has been no ice mass average change over the last 30 years. That's 30 years FFS but all you see are the articles like the ones below.
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This is just propaganda and lies. Why don't they balance that with what is gained during WINTER? We only hear about the days of the most loss. Never the days of the most ice gain resulting in hysterical claims like these:
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And from the article you posted: "Mottram said since June 1 — roughly the start of the ice-loss season — the Greenland ice sheet has lost 240 gigatons (240 billion metric tons) this year. That compares with 290 gigatons lost overall in the 2012 melt season, which usually goes through the end of August." What about telling us how much ice was gained??????

Here's some data from the Danish Meteorologic institute. Over the past three years, Greenland’s surface has gained 250 billion tons more ice than normal. 2017 : +200 billion 2018 : +150 billion 2019 : -100 billion
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" If all the ice in Greenland melted — which would take centuries — the world’s oceans would rise by 7.2 meters (23 feet, 7 inches), the study found." Which study? And why the hell would it all melt? There's no evidence to say it all would anyway. This is just fear propaganda.

"The current melting has been brought on by the arrival of the same warm air from North Africa and Spain that melted European cities and towns last week, setting national temperature records in Belgium, Germany, Luxembourg, the Netherlands and Britain."
This is a complete lie as the air mass responsible for the European heatwave had long gone, energy dissipated by numerous thunderstorms and in fact contributed to the July 28/29 Southeastern Greenland precipitations that almost brought the island to mass balance.
Most of Greenland has been under anticyclonic conditions since July 24 -before the European heatwave- to August 2 -well after the heatwave passed-.

So you're saying there hasn't been record heat waves in Europe and the ice in Greenland has not melted as much or as quickly this early in the season as the article suggest? Wow, you really are a scientist after all.

 

[Bazzar]

So you're saying there hasn't been record heat waves in Europe and the ice in Greenland has not melted as much or as quickly this early in the season as the article suggest? Wow, you really are a scientist after all.

A lot of the so called record heatwaves have been exaggerated a bit. The Paris one was a perfect example.

 

[Sir_Loin]

A lot of the so called record heatwaves have been exaggerated a bit. The Paris one was a perfect example.

Not really Baz

July matched, and maybe broke, the record for the hottest month since analysis began

According to new data from the World Meteorological Organization and Copernicus Climate Change Programme, July matched, and maybe broke, the record for the hottest month since analysis began.

public.wmo.int

 

[SumTingWong]

So you're saying there hasn't been record heat waves in Europe and the ice in Greenland has not melted as much or as quickly this early in the season as the article suggest? Wow, you really are a scientist after all.

1. Hasn't been record heat waves? Where did I say that?

Here's some info about the "record" heatwave in Europe:
It was hotter in 1976 when CO2 levels were much lower. In fact this summer has averaged 5 degrees cooler than in 1976. So no record heat wave, just a complete fabrication.



Same as Paris. It's pretty hot for sure but arguably hotter in 1947. So yeah no record heat wave here either.


2. The facts are that the amount of ice in Greenland hasn't changed for 30 years. And it's not melting early in the season. The melt season shuts down in about 1-2 weeks so yeah that's a lie too. As for ice melt rates for those of us who did calculus in high school it's easy to understand. The scientists in these alarmists articles take a higher rate of ice loss and extrapolate it out for the next 100 years. You can't do that. It's bullshit.

3. So it appears I really am a scientist or just somebody who doesn't believe any fear mongering propaganda they read.

4. For once is it possible for you to present some actual factual info? If you actually read this article you would have seen it was bullshit or are you just unable to see past the alarmist title or alarmist projections made in it which have no scientific basis?

 

[Bazzar]

Not really Baz

July matched, and maybe broke, the record for the hottest month since analysis began

According to new data from the World Meteorological Organization and Copernicus Climate Change Programme, July matched, and maybe broke, the record for the hottest month since analysis began.

public.wmo.int

One off record highs breaking 80 year old records isnt an indication of global warming.
Paris was almost identical to 1947, when so called nan made influence wasn't an issue.



And what about the record summer cold temperatures in the same summer?
If global "warming" was a thing how does this occur?

On July 24, in Susuman, a record breaking -4.1C (24.6F) was observed — busting the previous daily record of -3.5C set back in 1973 (solar minimum of cycle 20).

In Seimchan, -2.9C (26.8F) beat the previous record for the date of -2.4C (27.7F) from 1991.

In Brokhovo, the new record low for July 24 is now 4C (39.2F), which surpasses the 4.6C (40.3F) from 1973 (solar minimum of cycle 20).

The -1.4C (29.5F) in Talon comfortably ousted the -0.6C (30.9F) from 1973 (solar minimum of cycle 20).

Tompo’s -0.3C (31.5F) bumped-off the previous all-time record 0.3C (32.5F) from 1977 (again, solar minimum of cycle 20).

While in Zyryanka, the mercury fell to 2.7C (36.9F), busting 1956’s 2C (35.6F).

 

[Sir_Loin]

1. Hasn't been record heat waves? Where did I say that?

Here's some info about the "record" heatwave in Europe:
It was hotter in 1976 when CO2 levels were much lower. In fact this summer has averaged 5 degrees cooler than in 1976. So no record heat wave, just a complete fabrication.

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Same as Paris. It's pretty hot for sure but arguably hotter in 1947. So yeah no record heat wave here either.
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2. The facts are that the amount of ice in Greenland hasn't changed for 30 years. And it's not melting early in the season. The melt season shuts down in about 1-2 weeks so yeah that's a lie too. As for ice melt rates for those of us who did calculus in high school it's easy to understand. Here's a way to look at it. A bigger ice cube in a bowl of water will melt at a faster rate than a smaller ice cube. It's pretty simple really. The scientists in these alarmists articles take a higher rate of ice loss and extrapolate it out for the next 100 years. You can't do that. It's bulls**t.

3. So it appears I really am a scientist or just somebody who doesn't believe any fear mongering propaganda they read.

4. For once is it possible for you to present some actual factual info? If you actually read this article you would have seen it was bulls**t or are you just unable to see past the alarmist title or alarmist projections made in it which have no scientific basis?

Have you actually read the WMO Statement on the State of the Global Climate? Go read that, look at the long term trends (as scientists do) and let me know your professional scientific opinion on Greenland SMB over the last 30 years. For example, your argument and cherry picked Greenland ice shelf mass numbers are an anomaly over the last 30 years which is net deficit of approximately 3 600 gigatons of ice mass since 2002. Why did you pick the last three years and not the last 30 years trend? Cherry picking data is not scientific and if you tried that in any serious peer-reviewed publication you'd be laughed out of town.

Additionally: a recent study also examined ice cores taken from Greenland, which captured melting events back to the mid-1500s. The study determined that the recent level of melt events across the Greenland ice sheet have not occurred in at least the past 500 years i.e. pre industrial revolution times.

I'll wait the requisite two weeks it'll take you to read it, google all the right wing climate denial research, cherry pick the data that helps your argument, then present the dumbest so called scientific opinion on the internet to me. If you even publicly expressed your thoughts on climate change as a scientist (assuming you are qualified enough to offer an opinion on climate change in the scientific field in the first place) you'd never be taken seriously enough to publish anything you've represented here in any respectable scientific peer - reviewed journal. Even if it was just a literature review. If you have, provide me the links and I'd be happy to read them.

 

[Bazzar]

google all the right wing climate denial research,

Lol, funniest thing I've read in months

 

[Sir_Loin]

Lol, funniest thing I've read in months

Whats so funny about it. I think its deadly serious and will impact millions if not billions of people.

 

[Bazzar]

Whats so funny about it. I think its deadly serious and will impact millions if not billions of people.

Yep, only those from the right are skeptical, or put it another way, only those from the left know, or "think" they know, what their talking about.

 

[Sir_Loin]

Yep, only those from the right are skeptical, or put it another way, only those from the left know, or "think" they know, what their talking about.

What are you actually sceptical about though. That’s the bit I’m confused about.

 

[Royce Hafey]

They still do that in the US don't they?

No they blow away 12 year old black kids playing in parks with toy pistols. Not quite the same thing.

 

[Sir_Loin]

One off record highs breaking 80 year old records isnt an indication of global warming.
Paris was almost identical to 1947, when so called nan made influence wasn't an issue.

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And what about the record summer cold temperatures in the same summer?
If global "warming" was a thing how does this occur?

On July 24, in Susuman, a record breaking -4.1C (24.6F) was observed — busting the previous daily record of -3.5C set back in 1973 (solar minimum of cycle 20).

In Seimchan, -2.9C (26.8F) beat the previous record for the date of -2.4C (27.7F) from 1991.

In Brokhovo, the new record low for July 24 is now 4C (39.2F), which surpasses the 4.6C (40.3F) from 1973 (solar minimum of cycle 20).

The -1.4C (29.5F) in Talon comfortably ousted the -0.6C (30.9F) from 1973 (solar minimum of cycle 20).

Tompo’s -0.3C (31.5F) bumped-off the previous all-time record 0.3C (32.5F) from 1977 (again, solar minimum of cycle 20).

While in Zyryanka, the mercury fell to 2.7C (36.9F), busting 1956’s 2C (35.6F).

Baz, if I had to give advice to anyone (and I'm not giving you advice) you're better off reading widely accepted and peer reviewed scientific opinion over fringe nonsense. Have a read of this;

WMO verifies 3rd and 4th hottest temperature recorded on Earth

The World Meteorological Organization (WMO) has officially evaluated temperature record extremes of 54.0 °C at two locations, one in Mitribah, Kuwait, on 21 July 2016 and a second in Turbat, Pakistan, on 28 May 2017.

public.wmo.int

There's more on the WMO website you can educate yourself on including the differences in the climate indicators researched, their importance, relevance and limitations. Thats right, even "left" type scientific valid organisations are academically secure enough to admit gaps in their knowledge.

TBH this left v right nonsense is really driven by fringe conspiracy bullshit. Scientific fact has no political persuasion. The minute you start getting into that is the minute you start playing identity politics which has no place in scientific research. No self respecting scientist would dare start using terms such as "climate alarmist, climate denier" or any other such emotive media driven language.

 

[Bazzar]

What are you actually sceptical about though. That’s the bit I’m confused about.

The globe IS warming, its a cyclical thing, but the absurd nonsense the majority is man made is stuff for the alarmists.

 

[Bazzar]

My hard earned taxes have finally been put to good use.
David Bowie, Finding Fame movie/doco is on the ABC tonight at 9.37.
Looking forward to seeing this.

 

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[Equus]

People who like heavy metal/death metal/power metal, how did you get into it and why do you like it?

 

[Al Heimer]

People who like heavy metal/death metal/power metal, how did you get into it and why do you like it?

Brain injuries probably. God awful sheet it is.

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[NaturalDisaster]

People who like heavy metal/death metal/power metal, how did you get into it and why do you like it?

Metal is basically the spicy food of music. At first itll seem inedible, unappetising until you start to get a little bit of a taste of it. Your taste buds begin to adjust and all of a sudden you start to prefer your food with it. Over time you start to want your food spicier and spicer.

Bit like with metal, you start off with say "softer" metal, you get used to that and start wanting to listen to heavier and heavier stuff. Over a while your ears adjusts and you develop an appreciation for it.

 

[NaturalDisaster]

Brain injuries probably. God awful sheet it is.

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That's if you go from not listening to it to listening to full on death metal.

 

[Equus]

Metal is basically the spicy food of music. At first itll seem inedible, unappetising until you start to get a little bit of a taste of it. Your taste buds begin to adjust and all of a sudden you start to prefer your food with it. Over time you start to want your food spicier and spicer.

Bit like with metal, you start off with say "softer" metal, you get used to that and start wanting to listen to heavier and heavier stuff. Over a while your ears adjusts and you develop an appreciation for it.

What is entry-point metal?

 

[Bazzar]

Metal is good if you suffer a brain injury or are tone deaf.
Thrash would have to be the most offensive sound ever produced.

 

[Sir_Loin]

What is entry-point metal?

Metallica, Iron Maiden...then jump into Rammstein lol