Recommitted Clayton Oliver [re-signed until 2030]

[Brutalitops]

Every player is what Essendon need.

Youre not wrong

 

[TheBoss]

On the way to Tigerland

 

[rusman]

No chance he leaves.

if he does it’ll be a huge offer for dees to listen. Two firsts would be a starting point.

 

[Dez!]

On the way to Tigerland

Yes because your "predictions" always go well.

 

[TheBoss]

Will be announced when their season is over.

 

[markm106]

McClure based this entirely off him thinking Oliver didn't look happy at the best and fairest, he's literally a moron.

Exactly. Didn’t he also state he was taken out of context.

 

[markm106]

If Carlton sign Saad and Williamson. Plus extend Cripps and McKay etc, Clarry will be playing for the love of it at Carlton.

 

[Skull Face]

If Carlton sign Saad and Williamson. Plus extend Cripps and McKay etc, Clarry will be playing for the love of it at Carlton.

You fool, we have been paying 95% cap and have to pay 105% this year, even if williams and saad are 1.5mil that barely gets us to 100%

 

[Prochard123]

You fool, we have been paying 95% cap and have to pay 105% this year, even if williams and saad are 1.5mil that barely gets us to 100%

And you know this, how?

 

[markm106]

And you know this, how?

Exactly. The cap space keeps growing with every new player linked to them.

 

[Prochard123]

You fool, we have been paying 95% cap and have to pay 105% this year, even if williams and saad are 1.5mil that barely gets us to 100%

Also 95% of salary cap is $12,120,190.25, 105% of salary cap is $13,395.999.75. The difference is $1,275,809.

Now, Williams is rumoured to be on 850k (https://wwos.nine.com.au/afl/carlton-zac-williams-overpaid-warren-tredrea-reaction/ffe0dfd3-c9bb-4a9d-9bce-0d5a83cebb20#:~:text=The Age footy reporter Sam,more than $850,000 per season.)

Saad on 650k (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...s/news-story/a718f8d63d6b45dc1b7f6827c9ad2e9d)

That sums up to $1,500,000, which is more than the difference between 95% and 105%. And look you might tell me the retiring of Simpson, Kreuzer could more than offset the rookies you bring in, the rookie promotions, the money you have set aside to extend contracts with Walsh, Mckay, Weitering etc.

But the problem is - Carlton was ALREADY on 105% this year?? (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-paying-105-per-cent-of-salary-cap-20200303-p546km.html). Sure if Jack Martin gets off his huge salary, and Carlton alleviates 700k from 105%, but then the whole from 95% to 105% cap theory becomes invalid, so how are you going to pay that extra 800k for Williams and Saad then?

Where is Carlton getting the money from? Cripps seeking a trade to WA confirmed?

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Also 95% of salary cap is $12,120,190.25, 105% of salary cap is $13,395.999.75. The difference is $1,275,809.

Now, Williams is rumoured to be on 850k (https://wwos.nine.com.au/afl/carlton-zac-williams-overpaid-warren-tredrea-reaction/ffe0dfd3-c9bb-4a9d-9bce-0d5a83cebb20#:~:text=The Age footy reporter Sam,more than $850,000 per season.)

Saad on 650k (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...s/news-story/a718f8d63d6b45dc1b7f6827c9ad2e9d)

That sums up to $1,500,000, which is more than the difference between 95% and 105%. And look you might tell me the retiring of Simpson, Kreuzer could more than offset the rookies you bring in, the rookie promotions, the money you have set aside to extend contracts with Walsh, Mckay, Weitering etc.

But the problem is - Carlton was ALREADY on 105% this year?? (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-paying-105-per-cent-of-salary-cap-20200303-p546km.html). Sure if Jack Martin gets off his huge salary, and Carlton alleviates 700k from 105%, but then the whole from 95% to 105% cap theory becomes invalid, so how are you going to pay that extra 800k for Williams and Saad then?

Where is Carlton getting the money from? Cripps seeking a trade to WA confirmed?

Thankyou, the gross misunderstanding of what the actual salary cap is, how it works and how teams broker their salary cap is frustrating.

Williams and Saad I can see, adding another 800k+ for Oliver cant be possible. You are talking about adding approx 2.2m in salary cap sapce in one year, that is 17% of the cap in three players in one off-season. It would take some serious creative accounting to get that done

 

[Skull Face]

Also 95% of salary cap is $12,120,190.25, 105% of salary cap is $13,395.999.75. The difference is $1,275,809.

Now, Williams is rumoured to be on 850k (https://wwos.nine.com.au/afl/carlton-zac-williams-overpaid-warren-tredrea-reaction/ffe0dfd3-c9bb-4a9d-9bce-0d5a83cebb20#:~:text=The Age footy reporter Sam,more than $850,000 per season.)

Saad on 650k (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...s/news-story/a718f8d63d6b45dc1b7f6827c9ad2e9d)

That sums up to $1,500,000, which is more than the difference between 95% and 105%. And look you might tell me the retiring of Simpson, Kreuzer could more than offset the rookies you bring in, the rookie promotions, the money you have set aside to extend contracts with Walsh, Mckay, Weitering etc.

But the problem is - Carlton was ALREADY on 105% this year?? (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-paying-105-per-cent-of-salary-cap-20200303-p546km.html). Sure if Jack Martin gets off his huge salary, and Carlton alleviates 700k from 105%, but then the whole from 95% to 105% cap theory becomes invalid, so how are you going to pay that extra 800k for Williams and Saad then?

Where is Carlton getting the money from? Cripps seeking a trade to WA confirmed?

You do realise there was only 3 players on our list getting paid over 500k a year last year right? Jones is a RFA and he wouldn't be on more then 300k a year.

I'd wager our actual spend would be 8-9mil over the average of the contract and we have front loaded a huge amount of money. Even if I take your over inflated contracts for williams and saad still be easy 1.5mil left there to poach someone else.

 

[rusman]

Bigfooty .... the place where where people get told factual information. Skim over it then double down on their own narrative missing the point of everything they were just told.

 

[jthanos]

On the way to Tigerland

you think? we cant afford him. Brayshaw maybe but not Oliver.

 

[Skull Face]

Fool, you haven’t even factored in the new cars for each recruit. Pretty hard to drive one of those under the table or put in a brown paper bag.

Lovely how salty you poor dees fans get, tears are delicious

 

[Skull Face]

Bigfooty .... the place where where people get told factual information. Skim over it then double down on their own narrative missing the point of everything they were just told.

If you can call posting 1 side of a story factual information sure lol, the only point of that post was to tell me how offended he would be if Oliver actually left for carlton it had no balance in it at all.

 

[Guy Threepwood]

If you can call posting 1 side of a story factual information sure lol, the only point of that post was to tell me how offended he would be if Oliver actually left it had no balance in it at all.

I'm sure he would be shattered as a Collingwood fan if Oliver left.

 

[Prochard123]

You do realise there was only 3 players on our list getting paid over 500k a year last year right? Jones is a RFA and he wouldn't be on more then 300k a year.

I'd wager our actual spend would be 8-9mil over the average of the contract and we have front loaded a huge amount of money. Even if I take your over inflated contracts for williams and saad still be easy 1.5mil left there to poach someone else.

So assuming your "last year" means 2020:

1. Mitch Mcgovern - 800k

Former AFL player and journo clash on TV over player wages

A club director made headlines this week after revealing the salaries of players - but opinions are divided whether that should be public knowledge.

7news.com.au

.

2. Jack Martin - $1 mil for 2020 & 2021 (which means my previous idea that Carlton DOESN'T EVEN get Martin coming off his huge contract, his $1 mil salary extends into 2021

Carlton paying 105 per cent of salary cap

Blues using AFL's "banking" system to maximise player payments and create room to bolster future list.

www.theage.com.au

.

3. Patrick Cripps (well obviously 500k+)

4. Marc Murphy (Apparently on similar salary as Pendles, Cripps, Danger, so 750 - 950k?)

AFL 2019: Footy’s six million dollar men for 2018 season revealed, with more to join top pay bracket this year

The six million-dollar men: Footy’s top-paid stars revealed

www.foxsports.com.au

5. Matthew Kreuzer (700k)

Matthew Kreuzer set to meet previously unknown contract trigger clause guaranteeing him another year at Carlton

Kreuzer seems certain to meet trigger to stay Blue

www.foxsports.com.au

Should I continue or?... Took me like 2 minutes to factually prove that your information is completely wrong.

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On the other hand, people think we have salary cap problems just because of Grundy, De Goey and Moore when Carlton is paying $1 mil to Martin, 800k to Mcgovern and 700k to Kreuzer... Point is, 3 players don't make up the entire salary cap, stop basing your opinion of our cap based on 3/44 contracts.

 

[Skull Face]

I'm sure he would be shattered as a Collingwood fan if Oliver left.

You can understand why a collingwood fan would hate carlton getting a player like Oliver? Must be frozen up at bulla, your brain has melted mate.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

You do realise there was only 3 players on our list getting paid over 500k a year last year right? Jones is a RFA and he wouldn't be on more then 300k a year.

I'd wager our actual spend would be 8-9mil over the average of the contract and we have front loaded a huge amount of money. Even if I take your over inflated contracts for williams and saad still be easy 1.5mil left there to poach someone else.

Right, so you think that you are bringing in Williams and Saad and still won’t be at the minimum spend threshold of 95% and have 1.5m to spend for next year still?

 

[Dez!]

I do love it how there's people taking Sam McClure seriously that Oliver wants a trade because McClure thought he looked unhappy at the best and fairest but when they bring up McClure saying Carlton is paying Williams 850-900k a season for Williams it's dismissed as bullshit.

 

[markm106]

Lovely how salty you poor dees fans get, tears are delicious

What am I salty about? Rumours Oliver wants to go to Carlton. Or or am I salty about Carlton’s massive salary cap.

 

[Skull Face]

So assuming your "last year" means 2020:

What kind of * refers the the year we are in right now as last year?

If Kruezer and Murphy really are on 1.5mil put together as you say looks like we didn't even need to find cap space for Saad or Williams, that is without Simpson which given murphy was on 700-800k must have been on a mil easy.

Plenty of cash, dunno what you were worried about .

 

[Skull Face]

What am I salty about? Rumours Oliver wants to go to Carlton. Or or am I salty about Carlton’s massive salary cap.

Can't hide your jealousy very well when you come out with the old brown paper bags gag, all that does is confirm the Carlton FC are living rent free in your head for your entire life.