List Mgmt. Trade & Free Agency talk Pt 2

[Muddiemoose]

Wasn’t Higgins our first round pick when we got him ?

What pick we use to draft a player means sweet heck all once the draft is completed
If you are using it as a baseline for a players current worth you are going to be very disappointed

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Don’t think we will get anything in the 1st round for him without something going the other way

Where he was drafted is irrelevant at this point and his value is dictated on what he has produced at afl Level and it’s not a lot right now

Ok future 2nd to norf.lol

 

[Wacky Tiger]

Crazy that we waste a first rounder on him , Only to get rid of him 2 years later . Mind boggling

We are the product of our own success. Our recruiting team keep mining gold after gold after gold and we simply don't have the best 22 spots for them.




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[59Stanley]

We are so good that better than average players don’t get games. There will be many that pass through our hands it’s just part of the game. The challenge is to get value for them.

 

[French Tiger]

Makes you wonder why we picked Jack in the first place ! Nothing against him but we already knew we had plenty of depth in the small forward department. Now we are letting him go cause he can’t cement a permanent spot in the team.
That pick could have been used on a key position player or midfielder etc


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[JR#8]

Fake Jack Higgins Facebook page is going to be disappointed ahahaha

 

[Muddiemoose]

What pick we use to draft a player means sweet fu** all once the draft is completed
If you are using it as a baseline for a players current worth you are going to be very disappointed

More to the point of people trying to justify higgo being worth a 1st round pick because that’s where he was drafted

North got Aiden Bonar

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Aiden Bonar

Age

25

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188cm

Wt

87kg

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Career

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10.0

3star

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4.8

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5.3

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2.6

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3.8

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101.0

2star

D

9.5

2star

K

4.0

1star

HB

5.5

3star

M

2.0

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3.5

4star

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101.0

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10.8

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5.2

2star

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5.6

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M

2.8

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4.2

5star

last trade period off gws for nothing. He was pick 11 in 2017 (same draft as Higgins)

GOT Aiden Bonar

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Aiden Bonar

Age

25

Ht

188cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

4.8

2star

HB

5.3

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.8

5star

MG

101.0

2star

D

9.5

2star

K

4.0

1star

HB

5.5

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.5

4star

MG

101.0

2star

D

10.8

3star

K

5.2

2star

HB

5.6

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.2

5star

and a future fourth-round pick - GAVE AWAY a future third-round pick

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

Sad to see snags go but it makes sense he’s good enough to play every week and won’t get that here

The fact we’re willing to do deals to keep our players happy just makes us more appealing to others

Hopefully we get better compo in a trade then some of the other departures

 

[Makeshft_Mauler]

Makes you wonder why we picked Jack in the first place ! Nothing against him but we already knew we had plenty of depth in the small forward department. Now we are letting him go cause he can’t cement a permanent spot in the team.
That pick could have been used on a key position player or midfielder etc


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losing a year of development due to illness meant other people got their chances ahead of him

I mean would you all rather he just sits in the vfl all year?

 

[Tzatziki_Man]

This is gonna sound harsh,

I think from all our boys, it's a good one to let go.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Devastating, I strongly believe this will come back to bite us on the bum.

I know it can be argued that the club has been smart and done well with the players who have been traded out over the last few season.

I still think Butler moving on was the right call despite his 2020 season. However I don’t think moving on Higgins is the right decision.

If the club had any inkling that Higgo will return to his best there is no way he'll be on the trade table.
All the best too him with his future both on & off the field.

 

[Barnzy]

I don't agree with trading Higgins even if we get a first rounder pick (we won't, it likely will be a 3rd rounder or something ordinary).

21 years old, played well when he returned and is under contract. Rioli was hopeless in the grand final and carried. You can't tell me Higgins can't offer more?

But the club knows what they're doing so it is hard to argue any decision they make. Maybe there is more to it.

 

[M0557]

I’m very interested to see who the other club is. Maybe thy have better options for a trade. I simply am not willing to do a Butler trade with Higgins. Contracted first round pick- no sir

Hawks.
Replace Puopolo

 

[Damo80]

3 way trade might be the go.
Or a future first.

I wonder how our recruiters view the draft this year vs next. My assumption is that this year's draft is a real lottery because of the impact of academy selections, plus the Vic juniors essentially haven't played, making it much harder to rank the early talent.

I'm doubtful Higgins is worth the Saints pick 15 straight up. But there is the option to do something like Higgins and our 2nd (or even 1st) this year, for the Saints 1st next year, etc.

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[Marcel Proust]

We are so good that better than average players don’t get games. There will be many that pass through our hands it’s just part of the game. The challenge is to get value for them.

Well said butler is an all Australian caliber player but he would not get a game at tigerland. Harsh, but true.

When he was around higgos age he got a flag but he wasn't good enough to get a game in the side that best the giants by 15 goals in a GF

Now would he be ahead of Bolton. George. Rioli. IMHO. In the dimma rankings.

 

[Bojangles17]

Hmmm, go back 6-7 years and the exact same things were being said about Dusty and Edwards.

The more I think about it Higgins is someone we should be trying to keep. Let's see him with a full preseason under his belt, a year plus post brain surgery and some games at senior level.

We're not easily going to find someone in the draft with his talent level and he's still young.

don’t think that’s a very good analogy. My Q on him is he’s very stop and prop in the midfield which is totally against our surge forward style . His strength is a quick eye and reflex deep forward , again not so much our style ,, we rate hassle defensive pressure first to create the turnover. He’s def a senior player that would thrive in a diff game plan , not so much ours

 

[Ashman OG]

markov, broad, higgins could all go.
all good if we're getting ****ed this trade period.

 

[theyellowsash]

losing higgins....i dont like it

 

[strauchy]

this is the worst trade mistake we will make in a ****** long time. Terrible decision from us to lose him for the rest of his career which is only just starting.
Feel free to archive this. Will buy every single poster here a slab and deliver to their door personally if I'm mistaken.

You just know we will receive rubbish.

 

[daird]

More to the point of people trying to justify higgo being worth a 1st round pick because that’s where he was drafted

North got Aiden Bonar

16

Aiden Bonar

Age

25

Ht

188cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

4.8

2star

HB

5.3

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.8

5star

MG

101.0

2star

D

9.5

2star

K

4.0

1star

HB

5.5

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.5

4star

MG

101.0

2star

D

10.8

3star

K

5.2

2star

HB

5.6

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.2

5star

last trade period off gws for nothing. He was pick 11 in 2017 (same draft as Higgins)

GOT Aiden Bonar

16

Aiden Bonar

Age

25

Ht

188cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

4.8

2star

HB

5.3

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.8

5star

MG

101.0

2star

D

9.5

2star

K

4.0

1star

HB

5.5

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.5

4star

MG

101.0

2star

D

10.8

3star

K

5.2

2star

HB

5.6

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.2

5star

and a future fourth-round pick - GAVE AWAY a future third-round pick

This.

We have a habit of overvaluing our players here. What we need to keep in mind is how much footy someone has been playing, and how well it's been played. Throw the initital pick the player was taken with out the window.

I absolutely love Higgo, but we really don't know if he's hit his ceiling or if he will be a future star. Clubs trading for him are going off the performance they've seen this year, and not how good he was in junior years.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Just got a chance to look at the phone. What's the announcement.

Toby

Oliver

Petracca?

 

[tora tora tora]

Devastating, I strongly believe this will come back to bite us on the bum.

I know it can be argued that the club has been smart and done well with the players who have been traded out over the last few season.

I still think Butler moving on was the right call despite his 2020 season. However I don’t think moving on Higgins is the right decision.

Any player who has left in the last few years has left for opportunity. Clearly Saints are offering Higgins more opportunity. I'm fine with it

 

[THECHIEFTON]

Meh I don't rate Higgins that highly. Fumbly, average kick, not fast or anything. Smart player but that's about it.

 

[Marcel Proust]

this is the worst trade mistake we will make in a ****** long time. Terrible decision from us to lose him for the rest of his career which is only just starting.
Feel free to archive this. Will buy every single poster here a slab and deliver to their door personally if I'm mistaken.

You just know we will receive rubbish.

If the club is going to make terrible mistakes the best time is probably to do it after three priemership.

Higgins is a talented lad but life goes on. The probably had a think about it before cutting him lose.

Maybe it means they are confident stack will get his head screwed on again. And/or they rate MRJ

Im upset at the turner talk I thought he was very promising.

 

[OhhDeledio]

higgins has more upside than every small forward on our list bar bolton