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manureid
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The problem is you keep asking the same people who fork the current rule interpretations up, to make more interpretations. Which of course, they will get wrong.
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The rule is completely unnecessary and just provides the umpires with another means of impacting/influencing match results. That's the big problem with these types of rules.
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FTFY
Players are going to just do this and keep running. It will look ridiculous.
Imagine Matt White with these rules in place, he would just take off.
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I am still to hear if you can just not man the mark and stand 5 metres back and freely move side to side?
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Surely if you stand one meters back you could too.
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Well exactly. So how are they going to police this? If you are on the mark, and walk directly backwards, will they call you?
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I see what the club did there
I see what the club did there 
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I'm so sick of 'there's nothing wrong with it' being used as a justification for change. Don't tell me there's nothing wrong with it. Tell me what's right with it.
one of the main complaints with umpiring at the moment is picking out random soft free kicks. this dogshit rule compounds that fact by giving the free kick a higher value, since the man on the mark can now apply zero pressure.
add to the fact that the 50m rule is awful in many instances and has gotten worse with low scoring games, where one 50m penalty can have a massive impact. this sort of penalty should be reserved for the worst offences, like polaxing someone after a marking contest or cheap hits off the ball. instead.. instead of this, the AFFL have decided in their wisdom to give umpires another ridiculous offence, like the protected area bullshit, to generate even more controversial 50s.
this still does nothing to address the root issue of lower scoring games, which is down to better fitness/tactics etc.
add to the fact that the 50m rule is awful in many instances and has gotten worse with low scoring games, where one 50m penalty can have a massive impact. this sort of penalty should be reserved for the worst offences, like polaxing someone after a marking contest or cheap hits off the ball. instead.. instead of this, the AFFL have decided in their wisdom to give umpires another ridiculous offence, like the protected area bullshit, to generate even more controversial 50s.
this still does nothing to address the root issue of lower scoring games, which is down to better fitness/tactics etc.
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How good would it be if in Rd 1 or Rd 2, 25 goals in one game, come from this BS rule.
The footy public will go bunta. Bigger riots than at the Capitol building in Washington.
The footy public will go bunta. Bigger riots than at the Capitol building in Washington.
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It almost makes some of the deliberate out of bounds interpretations seem sensible.
IMO, the biggest issue is the impossible task they have given to the umps to adjudicate this. They have to 1] Watch the kicker to see if he plays on, 2] watch the surrounding players to ensure they dont encroach, 3] now watch the man on the mark, and added to that, 4] try to keep an eye on the full forward getting scragged/held/jumper pulled.
Added to that the fact it is highly interpretive we are going to have a helluva year with this. I can see it being paid one time, but not the next, sending spectators wild!
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What annoys me is that they've taken away a part of our sport that makes it fun to watch (freedom of movement in all directions and the flexibility to defend from multiple angles) and made the defender stand in one spot like netball.
It's just not needed, and with every little thing they introduce the sport gets further away from what makes it awesome and into something more restrictive that requires more interference from umpires to control.
It's just not needed, and with every little thing they introduce the sport gets further away from what makes it awesome and into something more restrictive that requires more interference from umpires to control.
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The way I read it the umpire will nominate a player to stand the mark and that player must stand on, and not move from, the mark until the opposition player has disposed of the ball or called to play on.
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If you want proof that the brains trust have no clue what makes football great, then you only need to look at AFLX. The fact that it was ever dreamt up and then put into action is still unbelievable to me.
Spread this lot on your veggie patch...
Steve Hocking gives new man-on-the-mark rule thumbs up
The AFL is thrilled with the new standing-on-the-mark rule, but has not ruled out making adjustments to it before Round 1.
The league on Monday checked off the controversial 50m penalty against Fremantle’s Brennan Cox at the weekend because Cox moved slightly backwards after the umpire called “stand’’.
A player is not permitted to move laterally, forward or backwards after the umpire has made his call.
Hocking on Monday met with his analysis team to review the weekend’s matches and will do so again next Monday after the AAMI Community Series.
“It was our first real opportunity to have a look at it and we will continue to look at it, as we did with 6-6-6, and if there needs to be a sublet adjustment to it, that’s what we will do over the coming weeks,’’ Hocking said.
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Hocking revealed players will get roughly three seconds to decide if they will man the mark or where to man the mark. As well calling “stand’’, umpires will raise a hand in a stopping motion.
Hocking expects to see further strategies employed by the player on the mark during this week’s one-match pre-season competition.
“The player can actually decide to move slightly to an angle to take part of that kicking lane away if he wants to. So, there’s about two or three seconds for that to happen before the umpire calls stand,’’ he said.
For example, a player about to stand on the mark on the wing-boundary area could move laterally towards the central corridor for three seconds before the umpire commanded him to stand still.
“Then he is pinged to that position,’’ Hocking said.
“That’s what clubs will pick up in time.
Steve Hocking gives new man-on-the-mark rule thumbs up
The AFL is thrilled with the new standing-on-the-mark rule, but has not ruled out making adjustments to it before Round 1.
The league on Monday checked off the controversial 50m penalty against Fremantle’s Brennan Cox at the weekend because Cox moved slightly backwards after the umpire called “stand’’.
A player is not permitted to move laterally, forward or backwards after the umpire has made his call.
Hocking on Monday met with his analysis team to review the weekend’s matches and will do so again next Monday after the AAMI Community Series.
“It was our first real opportunity to have a look at it and we will continue to look at it, as we did with 6-6-6, and if there needs to be a sublet adjustment to it, that’s what we will do over the coming weeks,’’ Hocking said.
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Hocking revealed players will get roughly three seconds to decide if they will man the mark or where to man the mark. As well calling “stand’’, umpires will raise a hand in a stopping motion.
Hocking expects to see further strategies employed by the player on the mark during this week’s one-match pre-season competition.
“The player can actually decide to move slightly to an angle to take part of that kicking lane away if he wants to. So, there’s about two or three seconds for that to happen before the umpire calls stand,’’ he said.
For example, a player about to stand on the mark on the wing-boundary area could move laterally towards the central corridor for three seconds before the umpire commanded him to stand still.
“Then he is pinged to that position,’’ Hocking said.
“That’s what clubs will pick up in time.
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chiwigi
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Digest this lot...
Steve Hocking gives new man-on-the-mark rule thumbs up
The AFL is thrilled with the new standing-on-the-mark rule, but has not ruled out making adjustments to it before Round 1.
The league on Monday checked off the controversial 50m penalty against Fremantle’s Brennan Cox at the weekend because Cox moved slightly backwards after the umpire called “stand’’.
A player is not permitted to move laterally, forward or backwards after the umpire has made his call.
Hocking on Monday met with his analysis team to review the weekend’s matches and will do so again next Monday after the AAMI Community Series.
“It was our first real opportunity to have a look at it and we will continue to look at it, as we did with 6-6-6, and if there needs to be a sublet adjustment to it, that’s what we will do over the coming weeks,’’ Hocking said.
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Hocking revealed players will get roughly three seconds to decide if they will man the mark or where to man the mark. As well calling “stand’’, umpires will raise a hand in a stopping motion.
Hocking expects to see further strategies employed by the player on the mark during this week’s one-match pre-season competition.
“The player can actually decide to move slightly to an angle to take part of that kicking lane away if he wants to. So, there’s about two or three seconds for that to happen before the umpire calls stand,’’ he said.
For example, a player about to stand on the mark on the wing-boundary area could move laterally towards the central corridor for three seconds before the umpire commanded him to stand still.
“Then he is pinged to that position,’’ Hocking said.
“That’s what clubs will pick up in time.
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So the player and not the umpire decides where the mark actually is. Steve Hocking is more of a feckwit than I previously thought.Digest this lot...
Steve Hocking gives new man-on-the-mark rule thumbs up
The AFL is thrilled with the new standing-on-the-mark rule, but has not ruled out making adjustments to it before Round 1.
The league on Monday checked off the controversial 50m penalty against Fremantle’s Brennan Cox at the weekend because Cox moved slightly backwards after the umpire called “stand’’.
A player is not permitted to move laterally, forward or backwards after the umpire has made his call.
Hocking on Monday met with his analysis team to review the weekend’s matches and will do so again next Monday after the AAMI Community Series.
“It was our first real opportunity to have a look at it and we will continue to look at it, as we did with 6-6-6, and if there needs to be a sublet adjustment to it, that’s what we will do over the coming weeks,’’ Hocking said.
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Hocking revealed players will get roughly three seconds to decide if they will man the mark or where to man the mark. As well calling “stand’’, umpires will raise a hand in a stopping motion.
Hocking expects to see further strategies employed by the player on the mark during this week’s one-match pre-season competition.
“The player can actually decide to move slightly to an angle to take part of that kicking lane away if he wants to. So, there’s about two or three seconds for that to happen before the umpire calls stand,’’ he said.
For example, a player about to stand on the mark on the wing-boundary area could move laterally towards the central corridor for three seconds before the umpire commanded him to stand still.
“Then he is pinged to that position,’’ Hocking said.
“That’s what clubs will pick up in time.
A defender has three seconds to increase the angle of a shot on goal by moving the mark towards the boundary. You can move quite a distance in three seconds.
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Well then sprint towards the boundary line so the angle they will kick for goal from when the ump calls "stand" becomes extreme!
I'm guessing the kicker still kicks over the original marking spot, not wherever the guy on the mark wants it to be, otherwise wtf. So two marks for diff purposes created. Nah can't see a problem. Shouldn't be difficult to police at all.
Why can't we have a 'remove subjectivity from the rules' committee. That'd be the biggest contribution to spectator enjoyment of the game they could possibly make.
Why can't we have a 'remove subjectivity from the rules' committee. That'd be the biggest contribution to spectator enjoyment of the game they could possibly make.
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