I can easily say he was second worst, he was, yet again, dead set useless. The thousands of MCC supporters would agree.
Brown was poor, but how can you honestly say Jackson was better? Dumb call
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Brown was poor, but how can you honestly say Jackson was better? Dumb call
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I’m not sure what you think Brown did better, the best either could do aerially is make a contest but if your going to stick with Brown being better I’d like to know how you justify the combined effort of 1 goals 8 touches, 3 tackles and and 3 marks of McDonald and Pickett as being better than Jackson.
Salem was also pretty useless for his role
Logue would start in defense for almost every team in the league. Anyone who can take out the likes of Curnow & J Cameron is pretty handy to have around.
It’s weird the nature of our setup though is he just doesn’t quite fit unless one of Pearce, Cox or Ryan is out.
I like the way JL can see things in a system way & choose to persist with the Walkers & Frederick’s who in isolation don’t look as good as a Logue or Wilson or Tucker but somehow add an intangible improvement to our overall synergy.
I really hope we don’t sell the farm for Jackson. Or if we do the people making the decisions really know what they’re doing which they certainly have appeared to do recently.
It’s weird the nature of our setup though is he just doesn’t quite fit unless one of Pearce, Cox or Ryan is out.
I like the way JL can see things in a system way & choose to persist with the Walkers & Frederick’s who in isolation don’t look as good as a Logue or Wilson or Tucker but somehow add an intangible improvement to our overall synergy.
I really hope we don’t sell the farm for Jackson. Or if we do the people making the decisions really know what they’re doing which they certainly have appeared to do recently.
At the game, McDonald actually made some decent leads, but the Swans were too focused kicking it to Buddy v May (which they fixed the second half). Stats wise, he was quiet
Demons entries were putrid, demons forwards were poor, no doubt about it, but the reason they were poor was because of the midfield bombing it in with no plan.
Midfield got spanked by Sydney and what did
Jackson do.....nothing? Did he provide a target down the line? Take marks? Provide a forward target? Did he control the ruck? Give good service to the mids? Get clearances? He was incredibly poor
Gawn played forward a lot tonight and has been lately because Jackson has failed to play that role.
He wasn’t great but Jackson had 7 tackles (2nd highest for Dees) which at least shows some intent.
Bit of over reaction. Also McDonald got four touches.
Jackson wasn’t great but he did 7 tackles.
One point I agree with which annoys me a lot on here is some continually referencing him as a once in a generation talent. Makes him sound like LeBron James.
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If we’re giving credit for McDonald “leading successfully” then we give credit for Jackson leading successfully and then bringing the ball to ground in a 2v1 contest and not getting out marked, he did this at least 3 times.
He also had more tackles then any Demon bar Oliver so while Demons midfield was poor (except for Oliver), at least Jackson was following up and pressuring
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You mention this a lot, but I don’t see it. He gets pushed off the ball too easily due to his size & lack of core strength & by the time he strengthens his body to play that role he would be too heavy & lose his greatest asset for his size, his mobility.
His biggest benefit for us will be his mobility in the forward half which will allow us to play 2 other tall forwards, which we currently only do with Logue up forward. For eg we can play 2 of Tabs, Amiss, Kuek or Treacy along with Jackson sending Logue back to cover Chapmans role who is now on a wing because Acres has gone to fail elsewhere.
Given another year in the gym, he also becomes a better ruck as well & Banfield can play sub for the rest of his life.
Why would Logue go to North if we offered similar money. Would not make sense especially as he loves the club.If North do in fact get Logue would he be taken in the PSD?
Doesn't change our offer to him though. Assuming that is already negotiated . All I can say is Jackson is basically the most overrated player in the comp bar none . I have said it once and I will say it again. Why are we chasing a ruckman ?
Let’s throw a first at Collingwood for Darcy Cameron.
We would get more out of him!!! He would be cheaper too!
This is one of those (George Mcfly has to take Lorraine to the under the sea dance situations) Bell you must walk away and bring in a Moneyball player that delivers us a flag and keeps enough $ for other stars.
There’s a freo fan travelling back from 2026 with a premiership cup. He sees us going ahead with this Jackson trade….the cup starts disappearing. Noo Bell don’t do it he grunts while it vanishes from his hands.
We would get more out of him!!! He would be cheaper too!
This is one of those (George Mcfly has to take Lorraine to the under the sea dance situations) Bell you must walk away and bring in a Moneyball player that delivers us a flag and keeps enough $ for other stars.
There’s a freo fan travelling back from 2026 with a premiership cup. He sees us going ahead with this Jackson trade….the cup starts disappearing. Noo Bell don’t do it he grunts while it vanishes from his hands.
This is what worries me, too. it shouldn’t be an issue but we know it will be, the pressure will be enormous.
I know we are all saying Luke Jackson is overrated etc. lets look at Logan Mcdonald last night. He had 4 touches and didnt even hit the score board.
Does 1 game mean we should right them off?
Just noticed also that Jackson had 65 percent game time. Lowest from that game :s.
Does 1 game mean we should right them off?
Just noticed also that Jackson had 65 percent game time. Lowest from that game :s.
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“It’s weird the nature of our setup though is he just doesn’t quite fit unless one of Pearce, Cox or Ryan is out.”
Not weird at all. All 3 players you mentioned are way ahead of him and two of those names came far far later in the same draft as Logue and are a lock for the back 6.
For a first round draft pick who’s been on the Freo list for 6 years he should be locking down his position in the starting 18, but fails to do so. Will never live up to his pick 8 drafting. If North make a good offer, trade him.
Didn’t the guy CouldOFBeen suggest we draft Cameron from Claremont back in 2015-2016?
It has taken this long for him to actually look like an absolute steal.
Jackson has already shown enough to suggest in a similar timeframe that he
will be very good.
Anybody can find a player picked at what no. 48, but you need to persist, develop
and have patience as big men take time. An eye for talent is what makes the difference though, or you can just do a Silvagni.
Then they need games, and a coach who believes in them.
Pies have a forward line filled with draft steals, makes a joke of loading up on
first round picks.
Drafting, trading makes or breaks a club.
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Could we realistically see norf pick up Griff?
They have little picks so we’d have to hope they’d split their first and we’d likely beg for the second of those - prob anywhere from 10-15? Griff pick 7, you’d think 15 is about right
That pick is then gobbled up on the Jackson trade - which would be our 2022 first and this Griff pick
Pro’s -
don’t have to use next years first
Whatever we get for Lobb, Tucker, Meek, we go to the draft with - and all picks on forwards!!!!!!!!
Con’s -
No Griff (= no swingman)
No Lobb
Griff could Fck us a walk to pre season draft, and young would likely encourage it
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They have little picks so we’d have to hope they’d split their first and we’d likely beg for the second of those - prob anywhere from 10-15? Griff pick 7, you’d think 15 is about right
That pick is then gobbled up on the Jackson trade - which would be our 2022 first and this Griff pick
Pro’s -
don’t have to use next years first
Whatever we get for Lobb, Tucker, Meek, we go to the draft with - and all picks on forwards!!!!!!!!
Con’s -
No Griff (= no swingman)
No Lobb
Griff could Fck us a walk to pre season draft, and young would likely encourage it
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It’s dangerous to thin out our KP stocks, we are already stretched.
One injury to Pearce or Cox and we are in trouble
I believe we can cover the loss of Acres, Tucker, and it’s good to see Benning
playing defence.
Hamling is cooked or break glass in an emergency.
Then you focus on the forward line and it’s the same with Tabs, Lobb wanting out.
You don’t put 5 years into a guy like Logue to get his body right and then let him
walk?
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To be honest Jackson would be a better fit at Eagles, Naitanui is nearly done and pick 2 is a fair swap imo. Eagles don't have a replacement for naitanui. One of my best mates is a Freo supporter, he is hoping jackson can become versatile and that he and Darcy don't cannibalize each other's roles. I think Freo have rebuilt perfectly barring a key tall.
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...because he's available. I doubt we were even chasing him, he simply notified us of his intentions.
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Logue is the bigger hairier Aish.
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