List Mgmt. 2022 Draft and Trade Hypotheticals: Kinnear & Dalrymple - we march to no drum but our own!
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LukeParkerno1
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Do we really want him as a defender? Ideally I’d have him off a wing but does he have the tank? Wingers need to get the ball 30 times he struggles getting it 15!
Lloyd is a running machine, not sure Campbell gets to that level.
LukeParkerno1
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Possibly I’d still rather him play reserves until he has a set role whatever that is
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Only thing missing was a bid on Davey to really stir the pot.
Well if he doesn't have the tank for the wing, you don't want him in defence, and you've decreed he's not a small forward (despite him going at pick 5 as a small fwd/mid)... I guess he could ruck at VFL level, we might need it.
I'm not sure I want to test the limits of Dodo's pigheadedness.
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Thank you guys for the bid on Michelanney. We've made a 2022 1st round pick now, so can trade out 23 and 24 1sts next year now if siituation arises.. Bit of a bonus that I wasn't expecting.
I have a feeling we are staying on the good side with the Dees. Not sure why. Just a niggle in the gut. Nice we p*ssed GWS and the Crows off.
LukeParkerno1
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I actually have massive concerns for him going forward. I’m not sure where he fits at all. What’s his role…tricky one and one I can’t answer
You might like to learn to spell his name.
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Yeah. Have to learn to pronounce it too
I hope @27 we get Cowan
Then in the late 30s Van Es or a KPF
Then because Cowan goes LTI list
We take 2 rookies (knobel as a rookie ruck here would be awesome) and maybe Bradtke or Lemmey (if he is not picked)
1 cat B (Edwards)
And still have a spot for mid season draft
With our first pick next year we get best player - several great KFP next year - their is about 10 or so really good ones
Hopefully our Clearly is post 20 pick next year
And Cabor is post 40
That way we might be able to move some picks into 2024 also via swap
Then in the late 30s Van Es or a KPF
Then because Cowan goes LTI list
We take 2 rookies (knobel as a rookie ruck here would be awesome) and maybe Bradtke or Lemmey (if he is not picked)
1 cat B (Edwards)
And still have a spot for mid season draft
With our first pick next year we get best player - several great KFP next year - their is about 10 or so really good ones
Hopefully our Clearly is post 20 pick next year
And Cabor is post 40
That way we might be able to move some picks into 2024 also via swap
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Clarke, Campbell and HHK are not pure small forwards. Could play there in a pinch but not as a replacement for Papley as a like for like change over an extended period of time if Papley was out. Wicks would be our best and only option before tonight after that you are moving players out of their natural positions.
LukeParkerno1
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Pass on Cowan I just hate this notion of let’s develop a bloke for the Tasmanian side. Yeah we’d get a pick for it but it’s a waste of time. Hotton/Hustwaithe/Barnett at 27. Not fussed. Best tall option at 42 take a Hail Mary
Not Cowan I meant George
I got them confused
I would not be surprised if Hustwaite gets picked into the 30s
I am not sure why so many are into him
From day 1 I said he is vanilla and has high bust potential
LukeParkerno1
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Yeah not against George at 27 feel that’s about the range and he’s probably the one bloke in this area that MIGHT be A grade. He may flop but you don’t lose talent it’s the body that’s the query not the talent
For me the evidence points to half forward until he can build more fitness. Reckon he'll be needed a fair bit more in reserves midfield next year, but that's where I'd have him in the senior team
LukeParkerno1
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Yep and that’s an issue Half forwards we have coming from everywhere he sure isn’t playing ahead of Hayward
Idk, I see Campbell as coming in as a lead/mark and crumbing forward, but then getting a lesson in locking down on someone as a small defender. He can certainly tackle. So I don't see why he's not considered up forward. It'd be Clarke he replaces (if ever), remembering we were happy to have Ronke there before we tried Clarke, so as pure of a defensive forward as Clarke, isn't seen as a necessity.
LukeParkerno1
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As good as Clarke was a genuine small like Konstanty would have likely been a positive. I get what you are saying about Campbell but surely he can show that in the reserves first. I still feel he doesn’t work hard enough should be racking them up at VFL level
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I'm 15 pages behind so maybe my opinion will temper along the way but that was poor.... all that energy to troll GWS and Adelaide, then to trade out! I don't like that trade either, 27 is too late in this draft and those picks next year are, even if death riding Hawthorn is my second favourite sport, undervaluing 14. Skipping Allen and or Weddle is seriously costly and I think we can kiss goodbye the idea of Barnett at 27, although being 1 pick ahead of Collingwood does give me slight hope. Konstanty.... good player, trolls GWS (not sure what they did wrong to deserve a Rowston bid and then select their preferred player) but can't help thinking we missed a trick there.
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There was no energy used, nor a conceited effort to troll GWS and Adelaide.
That was the necessary byproduct of us trading out in the first place.
If we weren't trying to engineer a trade down the order and needed that extra time to do so, then I doubt we bid on either player.
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