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Wouldn’t go anywhere near Chol. Ryan will play that role until he takes over Nanks no 1 ruck role.
We need a genuine kpf, not a 2nd ruck/forward (Biggie is developing nicely in that role)
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Wouldn’t go anywhere near Chol. Ryan will play that role until he takes over Nanks no 1 ruck role.
We need a genuine kpf, not a 2nd ruck/forward (Biggie is developing nicely in that role)
GIANTS TO PUT LONG-TERM DEAL TO FREE AGENT
GREATER Western Sydney is prepared to offer its star free agent Harry Himmelberg a five-year deal to retain his signature, with talks over his future expected to ramp up in the coming weeks.Himmelberg has parked contract discussions throughout the start of the season but remains one of the competition's most sought after key-position targets and is expected to attract lucrative offers elsewhere as a restricted free agent.
However, the Giants remain confident of keeping Himmelberg, with the club's head of football Jason McCartney telling AFL.com.au's trade and draft show Gettable this week that it would put forward an offer as long as five years for the versatile 27-year-old.
"The one with Harry is a little bit different because he was drafted as a 19-year-old. He is that year older than the traditional eight-year free agent at 26. But, touch wood, he's been a player that's been really consistent and very versatile and he's also been durable.
"We'd definitely look for a long-term contract with Harry around that and he's known that from the very early stages in our conversations and what his manager would be talking to him about."
The Giants will look to settle Himmelberg in a key defensive post across the second half of the season, having started forward under new coach Adam Kingsley, with McCartney expecting contract talks to heat up around the club's round 15 bye.
"It's been consistent right through," McCartney said.
"I completely understand why Harry was going to take some time. People might think, 'gee that's a bit strange … he's been there eight years'. But for Harry, it's all new too. He's getting a feel and wanted to get a good look at what this coaching structure would look like and our style of play and program.
"We knew right from the very early stages, it was probably going to be something that would ramp up maybe at the midway point of the year around the bye. We're anticipating there will be further discussions over the next couple of weeks." – Riley Beveridge
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The old less money longer term. I dare say our offer would be X by 3. If that’s the case we walk away to the next target no harm no foul
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Ryan’s shown more ticker in a dozen games then Chol has in 50
GWS have just a top heavy cap payments. Something like 40% of their cap is going to five guys (Greene, Haynes, Kelly, Whitfield and Coniglio).
I think Haynes is out of contract end of next season, but all the others I believe are 2026 and beyond.
The cap will increase during that time (I think significantly in 2025 when the new TV rights deal comes into effect) and maybe they can back end it out over five years.
They offered Taranto a two year deal and a four year deal last year (two years would get him to free agency, four I suspect that would back end the payments) so I think it’s more of a sign of how crafty GWS need to be.
Would expect that it would be lower than what other teams could offer.
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Ryan’s going to be a ripper. His ruck work to our mids this year has been top notch and he has excellent forward craft for a 207cm giraffe.
Why would we only offer him 3 years, We can offer him 6 years which will take him through to the year he turns 33. Where did you pluck 3 years from.
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6 years would be irresponsible.
+5 year terms are reserved for guns, not B graders
“He should sprint out the door”: AFL great scoffs at free agent's $900,000 reported value
“I read someone suggest he could be worth $900,000. No, he is not.”
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$900k!?
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List managers are using long term contracts to spread payments over a longer period and therefore get more A and B graders through the door.
There’s definitely a danger to it but also high reward.
Geelong, Sydney, Collingwood, us , everyone seems to be onboard.
Who cares, do you actually really care how many years a player is offered, how much money they get or how many picks we spend because i don't. I just care about getting the player because all that other stuff is the clubs problem cause i trust the club knows what it's doing so i don't bother myself with it.
If we offered 6 years to HH i wouldn't blink an eyelid because i care more about getting the player just like i wouldn't care if we offered 4 years at bigger price but i'm guessing you would.
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Clubs are required to take 2 first round picks over a 4 year period, we took 2 in 2021.
As for HH being a free agent hence our interest, if GWS are going to end up with a mid/late second round pick as compensation for losing him, they'd be seriously considering matching and forcing a trade to happen, knowing that they have us, or any other club backed into a corner because we've targeted him.
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3 is what most of the posters here have been initially suggesting as a deal
You are making things up now
Daniher did not get $2.5 mil and his deal was $750k x 3 years then got extended by 2 years in 2022 for less (presumed to be $500k x 2)
I am yet to see what penalties or sanction brisbane recieved for doing this
“We have done nothing wrong,” Ralph said Daly told him.
“We signed (Daniher) to a three-year deal and then we decided to extend it after one year.
“At the end of the day, he had not played for three years before this – he played 15 games in three years with a groin. We want to keep him for as long as we can.”
Some clubs, the report states, have canvassed the deal was always a five-year deal but was disguised as a three-year contract on potentially around $750,000 per season in order to bolster Essendon’s draft compensation.
Theoretically, clubs believe, had the deal gone through as a five-year one on less than $750,000 a season, the Bombers could well have received a lower pick as a result.
Report: AFL investigating Daniher deal with clubs sceptical of Lions’ extension
‘We have done nothing wrong’: Lions footy boss defends Daniher deal as clubs remain sceptical
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Essendon hit the free agency jackpot on Friday night, securing the No.7 overall pick for Joe Daniher after Brisbane offered a three-year deal with around $2.5 million of guaranteed money.You are making things up now
Daniher did not get $2.5 mil and his deal was $750k x 3 years then got extended by 2 years in 2022 for less (presumed to be $500k x 2)
I am yet to see what penalties or sanction brisbane recieved for doing this
“We have done nothing wrong,” Ralph said Daly told him.
“We signed (Daniher) to a three-year deal and then we decided to extend it after one year.
“At the end of the day, he had not played for three years before this – he played 15 games in three years with a groin. We want to keep him for as long as we can.”
Some clubs, the report states, have canvassed the deal was always a five-year deal but was disguised as a three-year contract on potentially around $750,000 per season in order to bolster Essendon’s draft compensation.
Theoretically, clubs believe, had the deal gone through as a five-year one on less than $750,000 a season, the Bombers could well have received a lower pick as a result.
Report: AFL investigating Daniher deal with clubs sceptical of Lions’ extension
‘We have done nothing wrong’: Lions footy boss defends Daniher deal as clubs remain sceptical
So Danihers contract was supposedly in the top 5% of contracts for players over 25, which isn't $750k but closer to what I linked above.
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I like HH imho , that’s too much to cop , 650 max
Bet they dont
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Jason McCartney is on record saying that's what they're offering
I cant read the article as its behind a pay wall but its rubbish when you go back and read all that was written and spoken about the deal at the time
$2.5 mil over 3 years would be around $835,000 a year which guarantee's easily a round 1 compo selection and nobody would have blinked an eye lid or anything would have been mentioned about the extension.
The deal was border line band 1 / 2 and just got over the line and was talked about ad nauseam if it should or shouldnt be a band 1 compo
the HUn as usual printing rubbish
Brisbane and Bombers worked it to get a band 1 as did Richmond & Hawks to get the shai pick back in the day
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Actually I posted a few pages back that I dont care what the dollars are as like you, In trust the club, but yes I would have an issue with the term. Clearly unlike you, I dont agree on getting a player at all costs. Short sighted and dangerous is that plan.
FWIW I do the trust the club, but if we didnt express our opinions on here, what is the point? Just sit around jacking each other off at how great the club is?
Do you go to the casino and keep betting until you finally win something and then call that a successful night? I'm guessing you would
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Tom Browne who despite being a clown gets very accurate information through his daddy and Ed also stated the offer was in the top 5% of contracts. $750k isn't in the top 15 contracts in the AFL.
Do you have stats to back that up ??
I would say it is in the top 5% in 2020
there was only 23 players that received above $700k in 2020
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His deal started 2021, and there were 20 players paid $800k or more according to the AFL.
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