Also Lee apparently said if there isn't some rain around near the Cup or on Cup day Speed Gifted will probably be scratched. Blame the ground for it's poor performance today.
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2009 Melbourne Cup Thread
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Feel like Ive heard this before from Freedie recently.
It was like concrete by R8,as long as hasnt jarred up Id be expecting him to run well back to a handicap with 53kg.
Obviously any rain a bonus
seth
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Warringah looks a certain starter,Changingoftheguard has had an abscess in a hoof but all is apparently ok now.
Not really the preparation you want leading into a Melbourne Cup & they are also considering the Mackinnon on Saturday.
Munsef & Mourilyan are also definite Cup runners,Geelong Cup also rans Basaltico & Crime Scene are still running if they make the field.
Godolphin still have Kirklees as their best hope,Cima De Trimphe is also likely to run in the Mackinnon
seth
Not really the preparation you want leading into a Melbourne Cup & they are also considering the Mackinnon on Saturday.
Munsef & Mourilyan are also definite Cup runners,Geelong Cup also rans Basaltico & Crime Scene are still running if they make the field.
Godolphin still have Kirklees as their best hope,Cima De Trimphe is also likely to run in the Mackinnon
seth
Does anyone know the strike rate of horses who go through the MacKinnon and onto the Melb Cup? It's always been a strange one for me as it is an extremely short backup. I don't really take too much interest in the Melb Cup and have generally used the Caulfield Cup as a form guide. Much guide to be taken out of the MacKinnon?
Lurkalot
Club Legend
Last roll of the dice for some....The winner gets a ballot free entry into the Melbourne Cup. Recent winners include Champagne (2nd in MC), Rogan Josh (won) & Sirmione (near last).
A 2000m hit out may also be just what a horse needs 4 days prior. Cummings put Viewed thru the MacKinnon last year (may have even finished last). So definitely don't discount horses coming out of the Mackinnon coz of the short back up.
Ill Chicken
Premiership Player
www.trackdata.com.au is a good place to look at stuff like that. Should have followed it for the Cox Plate.
Chris3Judd
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Yeah I remember that. I had money on Sirmione and Viewed early on in that season. Sirmione came third I think and Viewed came last. I invested a bit more in Sirmione for MC but obviously backed the wrong Cummings horse. I think Viewed dropped 5 or 6 kg for the Cup.
My live bets so far are Viewed-Viewed,Viewed-Efficient/Vigor/Roman Emporer/MOR in the doubles. Also got some money on Leica Ding(50s) and Kibbutz(301s) at good odds earlier on among others.
Give Efficient open running room and there is no one that can catch him. Viewed would need to be infront of him at the turn to win, can't see him running over Efficient.
Last meeting between the two...
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Last meeting between the two...
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42 horses left after 3rd decs this morning,here's the Order of Entry
www.racenet.com.au/flemington-raceclub-victoria/Melbourne-Cup-Order-Of-Entry.pdf
seth
www.racenet.com.au/flemington-raceclub-victoria/Melbourne-Cup-Order-Of-Entry.pdf
seth
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Doesn't look good for Vigor.
A shame that one of the most promising horses can't get a start while some of the european plodders are guranateed.
WFA 1st.
Caufield Cup 3rd.
And he sits 29th in the order of acceptanec while horses than finished almost worse than midfield in the Geelong Cup are locked away comfortabley in the field.
A shame that one of the most promising horses can't get a start while some of the european plodders are guranateed.
WFA 1st.
Caufield Cup 3rd.
And he sits 29th in the order of acceptanec while horses than finished almost worse than midfield in the Geelong Cup are locked away comfortabley in the field.
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Heard a rumour coming from "the stable" that Efficient is struggling (possible leg issue) and Zipping was going very well.
This was before the CP.
If it (Efficient) has stalled in betting this may be why.
Efficient struggling? Hmm that's not what the Williams camp is saying publicly. Although, given they pulled him out of the Cox Plate, maybe it's true and they don't want to risk another injury before the Melbourne Cup.
When did Alcopop fall and tear a muscle? Wasn't it just Alcopop's jockey who had a fall on another horse in Mt Gambier?
When did Alcopop fall and tear a muscle? Wasn't it just Alcopop's jockey who had a fall on another horse in Mt Gambier?
Yep, nothing happened to Alcopop just his jockey.
Ill Chicken
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Probably comeback to bite me but can't see Alcopop, Efficient or Viewed winning it.
What did you guys think of Shockings run in the Herbert Power?
He ran 4 wide and got bumped, nearly losing his feet, as he was about to commence his burst home at the same time as Alcopop but managed to recommence his run and hit the line strongly 3 lengths behind Alcopop who had a rails run and no interference.
Alcopop is equal favourite for the Cup and Shocking is 25-1. If Alcopop is a genuine equal favourite (which I admit I am not convinced of) then surely Shocking presents fantastic value at 25-1?
He ran 4 wide and got bumped, nearly losing his feet, as he was about to commence his burst home at the same time as Alcopop but managed to recommence his run and hit the line strongly 3 lengths behind Alcopop who had a rails run and no interference.
Alcopop is equal favourite for the Cup and Shocking is 25-1. If Alcopop is a genuine equal favourite (which I admit I am not convinced of) then surely Shocking presents fantastic value at 25-1?
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Seems that Speed Gifted's chances are virtually nil with a forecast of virtually no rain all week & Freedie looking to treat the horse for back issues.
Strangely all the other internationals,even the 2 bought for the Autumn & 2010 by local connections seem almost certain runners now.
seth
Strangely all the other internationals,even the 2 bought for the Autumn & 2010 by local connections seem almost certain runners now.
seth
viewed carried an extra kilo and a half than efficient and get held up a bit in the run to.nothing between these two.
Guys os atm but watched a few replays of the big races......Vigor is my pick got held up in the replay and its early win was impressive and its run 3 wide in the cup was a unbeilavable effort....if it can geta good sit and be pulled out around them it has amassive show!
happy punting
happy puntingGuys os atm but watched a few replays of the big races......Vigor is my pick got held up in the replay and its early win was impressive and its run 3 wide in the cup was a unbeilavable effort....if it can geta good sit and be pulled out around them it has amassive show!
Looks like it will need to win on Saturday to get a run in the Cup though.
Anyone got an opinion on Shockings chances in the Cup?
