Draft Review 2016 - Revisiting the 2016 AFL Draft

[Haychh]

If you look at these exact stats from an exact timeframe I have cherry picked to suit my narrative you will see that my player is vastly superior to yours.

 

[Yoda_]

The reason why Shai is above Mcgrath are clear

Even though Mcgrath gets more disposals, ( + 6 ) more clearances ( +1.4 ) Shai has much more impact on games and scoring

Shai dominated in metres gained ( 353 v 240) and Goals ( 12 to 0) and score involvements ( 5.5 to 3.1) and inside 50s ( 4.5 to 2.5 )

Shai is also a bigger threat in the air and his kicking is statistically better ( 73.9% v 68.3%)

Shai clearly plays in a better team.

Stop cherry picking stats for this year. Every one, literally every (non Richmond) supporter is talking about careers.

If you were talking about this year, no way would Taranto be in the top 5, Ridley (Essendon B&F winner) would be amongst the top tier. etc. etc. etc.


For all the " ersatility and X factor as well as being a genuine inside/outside midfielder that kicks goals gives him the edge on McGrath in my view." Andrew is less than 2 kicks less than Shai in metres gained (259.1 > 236.5), and for a guy who has played def/mid compared to fwd/mid, Andrew has kicked 15 goals in comparison to Shai's 31).

It's ok, I wouldn't expect a reasonable and overall reasonable debate about this.

 

[Yoda_]

Look I didn’t skew the data, if you looked at Shai’s Numbers from about rnd 6/7 onwards when he went in the middle, his Centre clearances, clearances, CP stats go up by a lot.

Just looking at them as players, Mcgrath struggles to hit the scoreboard. Shai’s versatility and X factor as well as being a genuine inside/outside midfielder that kicks goals gives him the edge on McGrath in my view.

Everything else being equal, if I could add only one of Shai Bolton or Andrew McGrath to my team, I would pick Bolton .

He would be just as effective on the ball, he would get the ball less, yes, but he would pump the ball inside 50 more, get more score involvements, assists and goals as well. He is a much bigger threat both on the ground and in the air around goal.

Can you please stop referring to these stats because I went back (in this very thread is commented) and Andy is still in front of Shaii. Stop with the fallacy that he was better. He wasnt.

 

[Yoda_]

How many coaches votes did our Shai go in the end?

 

[citizen-erased]

Clug, Ridley, McGrath & Taranto make the Class of 2020

 

[Yoda_]

Clug, Ridley, McGrath, Taranto & Naughton make the Class of 2020

is that official?

 

[conrad_437]

Clug, Ridley, McGrath, Taranto & Naughton make the Class of 2020

Naughton is 2017

 

[citizen-erased]

Naughton is 2017

fixed.

 

[Yoda_]

Naughton is 2017

Think you'll find it's reference to no Shai Bolton

 

[citizen-erased]

is that official?

yep. got it from their website

 

[conrad_437]

Think you'll find it's reference to no Shai Bolton

Oh no, I wonder how blaisee will react to this?

 

[Yoda_]

Oh no, I wonder how blaisee will react to this?

I think he and Marcel Proust are both on suicide watch for there precious Shai Bolton.





to be fair, Shai probably had a better year than Taranto who people probably picked on popularity rather than actual numbers.

 

[conrad_437]

I think he and Marcel Proust are both on suicide watch for there precious Shai Bolton.





to be fair, Shai probably had a better year than Taranto who people probably picked on popularity rather than actual numbers.

Agreed. Shai had a good year and deserves to have been recognised but it’s clear that many were considered above him and he shouldn’t have been as high as they were ranking him

 

[blaisee]

Oh no, I wonder how blaisee will react to this?

I know you must be very excited but, before you completely overwhelm yourself on yourself, perhaps have a think about this .

This is a fan based concept voted by fans.

Completely and utterly irrelevant

Shai Bolton made the top 3 players voted as MVP for a team that finished 3rd, voted by his teammates
Shai Bolton is in the top 40 players in the whole league in 2020, when voted by AFL coaches.
This board is a great representation of fans views, they usually lag 2/3 years behind the views of the official ratings, coaches and players, especially if said players play for big clubs.

 

[conrad_437]

I know you must be very excited but, before you completely overwhelm yourself on yourself, perhaps have a think about this .

This is a fan based concept voted by fans.

Completely and utterly irrelevant

Shai Bolton made the top 3 players voted as MVP for a team that finished 3rd, voted by his teamates
Shai Bolton is in the top 40 players in the whole league in 2020, when voted by AFL coaches.

Not this broken record again...

 

[blaisee]

Agreed. Shai had a good year and deserves to have been recognised but it’s clear that many were considered above him and he shouldn’t have been as high as they were ranking him

What does this mean exactly?

 

[Haychh]

I know you must be very excited but, before you completely overwhelm yourself on yourself, perhaps have a think about this .

This is a fan based concept voted by fans.

Completely and utterly irrelevant

Shai Bolton made the top 3 players voted as MVP for a team that finished 3rd, voted by his teamates
Shai Bolton is in the top 40 players in the whole league in 2020, when voted by AFL coaches.

The gift that keeps on giving. Literally any stat that doesn't suit your narrative is 'irrelevant'.

Surprised you're still using the Coaches votes thing though given McGrath finished above him.

 

[Yoda_]

I know you must be very excited but, before you completely overwhelm yourself on yourself, perhaps have a think about this .

This is a fan based concept voted by fans.

Completely and utterly irrelevant

Shai Bolton made the top 3 players voted as MVP for a team that finished 3rd, voted by his teammates
Shai Bolton is in the top 40 players in the whole league in 2020, when voted by AFL coaches.
This board is a great representation of fans views, they usually lag 2/3 years behind the views of the official ratings, coaches and players, especially if said players play for big clubs.

dont flatter yourself


Majority of people in this thread rate Shai, I for one feel he had a better year than some named in that team of the year but he's still a fair way off the top 5 let alone getting into the top 10 from this draft class.

 

[Daniels Riches]

Clug, Ridley, McGrath & Taranto make the Class of 2020

If going off form this year, Berry very unlucky to be left out of that side. Had a much better year than Taranto.


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[conrad_437]

What does this mean exactly?

Many who voted for this team rated other players above Shai.

It‘s quite clear that both you and your richmond luminaries were overrating him.

Is that clearer?

 

[blaisee]

Many who voted for this team rated other players above Shai.

It‘s quite clear that both you and your richmond luminaries were overrating him.

Is that clearer?

many fans like you yes.

No body that actually plays afl, coaches afl, agrees with you.

If that puts me in the minority in this company then I am perfectly fine with that

Suit yourself

 

[Haychh]

many fans like you yes.

No body that actually plays afl, coaches afl, agrees with you.

If that puts me in the minority in this company then I am perfectly fine with that

Suit yourself

Nobody? Really? So every AFL player and coach would rate Shai as high as you do?

 

[Yoda_]

many fans like you yes.

No body that actually plays afl, coaches afl, agrees with you.

If that puts me in the minority in this company then I am perfectly fine with that

Suit yourself

Nearly every AFL coach would say that Jordan Ridley had a better year than Shai Bolton yet you continue to hang your hat on coaches votes.

 

[citizen-erased]

If going off form this year, Berry very unlucky to be left out of that side. Had a much better year than Taranto.


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its a vote i think
Berry should be in that side.

 

[conrad_437]

many fans like you yes.

No body that actually plays afl, coaches afl, agrees with you.

If that puts me in the minority in this company then I am perfectly fine with that

Suit yourself

Wouldn’t that mean that your opinion is worthless too?