Draft Review 2019 - Revisit the 2019 AFL Draft

[Kreuuuzeurns]

with respect i dont think your opinion is as valuable as draft central

Draft central had Fraser Phillips (a player we just rookies) over Hugo Ralphsmith.

Rivers at 13. Bianco at 18. Cooper Stephens at 25. Georgiades at 51.

I’ll back in our recruiters. As should Richmond.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Draft central had Fraser Phillips (a player we just rookies) over Hugo Ralphsmith.

Rivers at 13. Bianco at 18. Cooper Stephens at 25. Georgiades at 51.

I’ll back in our recruiters. As should Richmond.

Rivers23
Bianco22
Cooper 21
Georgiades 37

several other 'drafting sources/resources' had Philip middraft

 

[This Is Anfield]

History tells us that some players rookied or very late picks will have more impact than some highly rated picks.
I trust the Richmond recruiting these days... not so much when they were recruiting players off youtube videos!!!

 

[FRUMPY]

If the Blues have a bid player in the future, Fremantle, Gold Coast and Giants won’t play nice.

Adelaide, and North Melbourne already bid on players.

I still think it was totally unnecessary and pointless to bid on a player that won’t going to get.

GC and carlton made a trade of pciks - both moved on quickly.

And good luck if they do bid - have every right

(do we even have an academy - never heard of any player being touted as good)

 

[Dragonfire]

I'm going to trust Michael Gleeson over a bunch of fan theories on here: https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...ght-shenanigans-revealed-20191128-p53f59.html

tl;dr

• Carlton and Adelaide have a verbal agreement to trade picks 6 and 9, Adelaide think their man McAsey will still be available at 9
• Jusso Reid does Jusso Reid things
• SOS switches to plan B, bids on Henry and Green because (a) both players are targets and (b) needs time to deal with GC
• GC delighted to move up to snatch Flanders, smooths over loss of Martin for nothing
• SOS gets Kemp at 17 instead of 9 and ultimately Philp at 20

Say what you will about who SOS drafts, but his ability to squeeze maximum value out of pick trades is A+.

Cool. Wonder why he was sacked by GWS and now Carlton then?

 

[Marcel Proust]

GC and carlton made a trade of pciks - both moved on quickly.

And good luck if they do bid - have every right

(do we even have an academy - never heard of any player being touted as good)

They might play hardball on future player trades depending how spiteful they are.

I can see the Lions not being happy with with Richmond too

 

[FRUMPY]

They might play hardball on future player trades depending how spiteful they are.

I can see the Lions not being happy with with Richmond too

Didnt know you guys had an academy in qld

three picks in a row wasnt it?

 

[Skull Face]

Think you guys have missed the obvious here. Carlton placed those bids to stall for time to negotiate trades. They knew they wouldn't get the players and didn't really care - they just needed the extra time to get the best deal possible for themselves.

And we would have been laughing all.the way to.the bank if either club didn't.match.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

I reckon you'll be happy with Nick Bryan in 3 years time B4L. He's a thinking ruckman, good ruckman height, and very athletic. Really good longterm prospect imo.

Hopefully by the time he's ready to go Adrian will have got a big mid for him to dish it to.

Yeah Bellchambers cooked,Philip a journey man and Draper still recovering from an ACL and hasn't played a game good pick.

Got Mitch Hibberd this morning in the rookie draft mature big body mid should play rnd 1 imo

Sounds like Dodoro will go for mids in next year's draft

 

[Richo83]

I posted recently about it, Jackson makes sense, Gawn is 28 this year, by the time he's fading Jackson should have a mature body and be ready to own the ruck spot.

Pickett looks great, love his highlight reel with the body contact, pace and passing.

Maybe there was a need for other spots but as players i don't see either being a bad pick.

Sadly Kreuzer's talent has been limited by injury, talentwise he was worth the no. 1 pick.

Nah it's dumb. The recent premiers haven't spent that much draft capital on ruckmen because the midfield and forwardline is more important. Recent premiership ruckmen include: Nankervis, Soldo, Vardy, Lycett, McEvoy, Hale, Roughead, McEvoy, Hale, Pyke, Mumford, Ottens, West and Jolly. It's a mixture of journeymen, good tap specialists and above average rucks. They're the running backs of the AFL and most premiership teams don't allocate that many resources towards drafting and paying them.

Now, if Melbourne really believe he's some transcendent talent that can win them games in the midfield and forwardline, then sure, pick him. But I wouldn't worry too much on finding another ruckmen to replace Gawn given it's not the most important position on the field anyway, and you can easily trade for one of find them in free agency. Don't forget, Gawn had an amazing season, and Melbourne finished second last because they have no outside midfielders or forwards.

My problem with Pickett is that the demons need someone to run through the midfield to give them some outside pace and class, and Pickett isn't that. He may help keep the ball inside 50 once he gets there, and has some tricks, but he needs a midfield that can deliver to the forward's advantage first. It feels like Pickett is designed to fix the mistakes of forward delivery, I'd rather just select a midfielder who can deliver the ball better.

 

[Thrawn]

So Carlton got Betts and Martin for free. In what universe is that a loss?

Only on BigFooty.

 

[Lsta062]

Been mentioned.in the media and on our board and they are almost identical players, pretty certain both clubs rated Philp higher.

Thanks but did Richmond say this as well? I’d have thought that they were the ones who’d know whether they would take him or not the most.

 

[Mofra]

I like what Sydney did overall. Great mix of talent.

Ditto. Elijah Taylor will be the steal of the draft.

 

[Kramer1]

So Carlton got Betts and Martin for free. In what universe is that a loss?

Only on BigFooty.

Newnes and Philp also free.

 

[Blue__Balls]

Thanks but did Richmond say this as well? I’d have thought that they were the ones who’d know whether they would take him or not the most.

At the very least, Carlton rated Philp higher and thought there was a chance Richmond did too. Might have been based on inside mail, might have been an educated guess, might have just been playing it safe - it only cost us a pick we weren't going to use anyway, so there was no loss in doing it.

Doubt we'll ever know who Richmond rated higher for sure, because they'll do the right thing, and the thing every club would do, and back in the player who now wears their jumper. They're hardly going to come out and say "We're pretty happy with Dow, but a little disappointed we missed out on Philp instead".

 

[Johnny Bananas]

They might play hardball on future player trades depending how spiteful they are.

I can see the Lions not being happy with with Richmond too

The Lions didn't particularly rate either Cumberland or Martyn. I think they were happy to wait for Cumberland to go to the Rookie draft and leave Martyn throughout. So I don't think they'll hold a grudge against Richmond. They're probably professional enough not to hold it against Essendon either. Speaking as a fan I'm annoyed at Essendon purely because they bid right before one of our picks, but I'm really not bothered by Richmond bidding.

 

[Milanista28]

So the rumors are Hawk got all the bad player and the Dons got all the best ones.

 

[Golumless]

Why didn’t Melbourne, Sydney, Adelaide or Fremantle bid on Green? Maybe he just went where he was rated.

Was likely a condition on our pick swap with GWS.

 

[Skull Face]

Thanks but did Richmond say this as well? I’d have thought that they were the ones who’d know whether they would take him or not the most.

No club is going to publicize which players they wanted but didn't get, the fact it come out in the media tells you someone at Richmond has given them the info.

 

[wraglesweb]

Ditto. Elijah Taylor will be the steal of the draft.

O'Neill is the steal of the draft

 

[V_23]

What are the people saying "Carlton traded up to get Sam De Koning" basing that on? His brother plays for the club? Lol

 

[Lsta062]

At the very least, Carlton rated Philp higher and thought there was a chance Richmond did too. Might have been based on inside mail, might have been an educated guess, might have just been playing it safe - it only cost us a pick we weren't going to use anyway, so there was no loss in doing it.

Doubt we'll ever know who Richmond rated higher for sure, because they'll do the right thing, and the thing every club would do, and back in the player who now wears their jumper. They're hardly going to come out and say "We're pretty happy with Dow, but a little disappointed we missed out on Philp instead".

Yes exactly. The clear thing here is that Carlton rated them highly and they didn’t want to risk losing him to Richmond. Whether Richmond were actually going to take him though is speculation as only Richmond and those present with Richmond internally will be able to confirm this. Only other group would be people associated with the recruiters like family and friends if they overheard something, but even they are often not the most trustworthy of sources either.

 

[Lsta062]

No club is going to publicize which players they wanted but didn't get, the fact it come out in the media tells you someone at Richmond has given them the info.

No, even if the media said that does not clear up anything as they have been caught going with fabricated stories before

 

[Blue__Balls]

Yes exactly. The clear thing here is that Carlton rated them highly and they didn’t want to risk losing him to Richmond. Whether Richmond were actually going to take him though is speculation as only Richmond and those present with Richmond internally will be able to confirm this. Only other group would be people associated with the recruiters like family and friends if they overheard something, but even they are often not the most trustworthy of sources either.

Yeah, not sure what argument really needs to be had. Both clubs took players of a similar type, at subsequent picks. Maybe Carlton rated Dow at 50, and Richmond rated Philp at 50, for weird disparate reasons - more likely they were both thereabouts, and if Carlton had taken Dow, Richmond would have taken Philp. From my perspective, Philp is a Carlton player and Dow is the brother of a Carlton player, so I hope they both have strong individual careers (Tom can go without team success though, thank you very much).

 

[Mikevk123]

$1.5M a year for a broken down old man and a kid with problems and a lot to prove. That ain't free.

Wasn’t so long ago Richmond were picking players like Tom Hislop.