Mega Thread 2021 Draft

[Lore]

Hey guys, scuse the intrusion. Thought you might like to have this resource on your board (mods might like to sticky):

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

We currently have picks 15 (round 1) and 57, 62 & 70 (round 4).

 

[Honeyboy Wilson]

Haven't been able to follow any of the draft prospects this year apart from the SANFL kids, but I'm hoping Tyler Sonsie slides to whatever our pick will be from seeing highlights and reading about him. I'm not too worried about the lack of consistency.

 

[philthy05]

Haven't been able to follow any of the draft prospects this year apart from the SANFL kids, but I'm hoping Tyler Sonsie slides to whatever our pick will be from seeing highlights and reading about him. I'm not too worried about the lack of consistency.

The going backwards a million miles an hour in his draft year does.

There has been some exceptions but based on history that’s a bad sign.

 

[Honeyboy Wilson]

The going backwards a million miles an hour in his draft year does.

There has been some exceptions but based on history that’s a bad sign.

I think going backwards a million miles an hour might be overstating it a little - he seems to have had quiet games, but he's had great games at NAB League level and his senior debut for Box Hill in the VFL he had 24 touches and 2 goals. He's also been injured with bone bruising for a coupla months now. I remember one of our recruiters talking about the 2009 draft and seeing Fyfe kick 8 goals in a game... but followed it up with a game where he got 4 touches and wasn't sure about the inconsistency. I'm not saying Sonsie is Fyfe, but I think still being able to show top end talent in some games albeit inconsistently is better than just a full-on down year.

 

[zadav29]

I think going backwards a million miles an hour might be overstating it a little - he seems to have had quiet games, but he's had great games at NAB League level and his senior debut for Box Hill in the VFL he had 24 touches and 2 goals.

I agree, Sonsie’s did more than enough in the VFL for me. One of the only true goal kicking midfielders in the draft, and as shown in his game for Box Hill he would be able to play as a mid sized fwd for a few years before he becomes a permanent mid. Rumours are that he is drifting towards the mid-late first round. Although he is from
Vic Metro he isn’t from the inner city and isn’t a private school kid, would 100% want him at Port if he makes it to our first pick.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

The U19 Championships were meant to start this weekend in South Australia but games for the next two weekends have been pushed back. AFL now aiming to start carnival in early August .

 

[philthy05]

I think going backwards a million miles an hour might be overstating it a little - he seems to have had quiet games, but he's had great games at NAB League level and his senior debut for Box Hill in the VFL he had 24 touches and 2 goals. He's also been injured with bone bruising for a coupla months now. I remember one of our recruiters talking about the 2009 draft and seeing Fyfe kick 8 goals in a game... but followed it up with a game where he got 4 touches and wasn't sure about the inconsistency. I'm not saying Sonsie is Fyfe, but I think still being able to show top end talent in some games albeit inconsistently is better than just a full-on down year.

Yeah there’s some truth there. He’s shown some top end ability. Players who peak the year before and then go backwards in their draft year scare me tho. Its usually held true once they’ve been drafted (or not drafted). Though a bunch of those probably peaked early were low skill types. At one stage Charlie Lazarro was spruiked as one of the best his age in the country.

 

[Macca19]

Sonsie at where we would be picking would be a great get.

 

[Long live PAFC]

Williams, Amiss, van Rooyen, etc
Would be wary of reading too much into their form. Really need to see them against seniors or at least the best in their age.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

We currently have picks 15 (round 1) and 57, 62 & 70 (round 4).

That looks like a first rounder and pts for Burgoyne unless we trade away players for picks. Stuff I have read suggestions Burgoyne is a 20-35 range pick.

 

[zadav29]

Williams, Amiss, van Rooyen, etc
Would be wary of reading too much into their form. Really need to see them against seniors or at least the best in their age.

I agree that we shouldn’t fall in love with performances at Colts level, but if you look back at Oscar Allen’s draft year for example, he played minimal League games and didn’t light the world on fire, yet has become a fantastic player. Hopefully the national champs still take place so we see the likes of Amiss, Williams and Van Rooyen against the best u19’s players across the country otherwise it’ll be a crapshoot trying to take kpp’s that haven’t played senior football with our first pick.

 

[philthy05]

I wouldn’t always trust my memory so correct me if I’m wrong but I thought Allen had a bloody great draft year?

At the least remember him smashing champs.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

South Australian Under-19s internal trial
Rising draft stocks

Running amok through the midfield, overager Mani Liddy played a complete game. He displayed good agility, a sharp change of direction and evasion in traffic. Liddy took on the game with his run, acceleration over several 10-15m bursts, before placing his kicks each time beautifully for his leading forwards inside 50m. Through the midfield, Liddy won first possession and displayed impressive strength to stand up through and shrug tackles. Liddy, who had enjoyed a five-game run at SANFL League level in the leadup to the game, averaged 17 disposals and should figure prominently for South Australia during the Under-19 Championships.

Impressing with his clean ground ball pickups at speed, Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera, the son of former Saint Terry Milera

Terry Milera

Age

37

Ht

183cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.1

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

4.8

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.5

4star

G

1.0

4star

No current season stats available

D

14.8

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

6.0

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.6

3star

was one of the best afield. Wanganeen-Milera took on the game in small bursts and displayed composure with ball in hand, as well as good skills. The special sauce from Wanganeen-Milera was how early he read the game, with intercept possessions off the bounce and off opposition handballs.

Displaying leadership in defence, Port Adelaide father-son prospect Jase Burgoyne was one of the best performers. The son of Peter made opponents look silly on multiple occasions with his agility, composure with ball in hand and evasive tricks.

Excelling by foot with his long kicking and vision the best displayed in the internal trial, Lewis Rayson located and hit numerous long targets in the corridor in a timely fashion. His agility and evasion were further strengths, while his tackling and commitment to pressuring opponents into mistakes was also impressive.

Exciting with his run and dare, kicking, vision and unselfishness, Lachlan Grubb was among the most damaging with ball in hand. The overager routinely hurt the opposition, both by foot and looks like a genuine matchwinner.

Seemingly winning every ground ball there was to win in congestion, Adelaide Next-Generation Academy prospect Isaiah Dudley displayed an innate ability often among heavy numbers to position himself where the ground ball would be first and managing to regularly win it.

Displaying his skills, composure and lowering his eyes to hit often the best short targets, Adelaide Next-Generation Academy member Blayne O'Loughlin was solid in defence. When he attended stoppages, he often won first possession.

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_...ake-schlensog-looms-elite-key-position-player

 

[zadav29]

I wouldn’t always trust my memory so correct me if I’m wrong but I thought Allen had a bloody great draft year?

At the least remember him smashing champs.

Had a great draft year but didn’t smash it at senior WAFL level, that’s why I’m saying if the likes of Williams and Amiss perform at the national champs I wouldn’t be afraid to select them in the first round because the likes of Allen had similar draft years without performing at senior level.

 

[davesnothere]

South Australian Under-19s internal trial
Rising draft stocks

Running amok through the midfield, overager Mani Liddy played a complete game. He displayed good agility, a sharp change of direction and evasion in traffic. Liddy took on the game with his run, acceleration over several 10-15m bursts, before placing his kicks each time beautifully for his leading forwards inside 50m. Through the midfield, Liddy won first possession and displayed impressive strength to stand up through and shrug tackles. Liddy, who had enjoyed a five-game run at SANFL League level in the leadup to the game, averaged 17 disposals and should figure prominently for South Australia during the Under-19 Championships.

Impressing with his clean ground ball pickups at speed, Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera, the son of former Saint Terry Milera

Terry Milera

Age

37

Ht

183cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.1

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

4.8

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.5

4star

G

1.0

4star

No current season stats available

D

14.8

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

6.0

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.6

3star

was one of the best afield. Wanganeen-Milera took on the game in small bursts and displayed composure with ball in hand, as well as good skills. The special sauce from Wanganeen-Milera was how early he read the game, with intercept possessions off the bounce and off opposition handballs.

Displaying leadership in defence, Port Adelaide father-son prospect Jase Burgoyne was one of the best performers. The son of Peter made opponents look silly on multiple occasions with his agility, composure with ball in hand and evasive tricks.

Excelling by foot with his long kicking and vision the best displayed in the internal trial, Lewis Rayson located and hit numerous long targets in the corridor in a timely fashion. His agility and evasion were further strengths, while his tackling and commitment to pressuring opponents into mistakes was also impressive.

Exciting with his run and dare, kicking, vision and unselfishness, Lachlan Grubb was among the most damaging with ball in hand. The overager routinely hurt the opposition, both by foot and looks like a genuine matchwinner.

Seemingly winning every ground ball there was to win in congestion, Adelaide Next-Generation Academy prospect Isaiah Dudley displayed an innate ability often among heavy numbers to position himself where the ground ball would be first and managing to regularly win it.

Displaying his skills, composure and lowering his eyes to hit often the best short targets, Adelaide Next-Generation Academy member Blayne O'Loughlin was solid in defence. When he attended stoppages, he often won first possession.

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_...ake-schlensog-looms-elite-key-position-player

Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera seems to go up a level in the representative games? Terry Milera we liked after he quit the Saints I'm sure? He did go ok it's good blood lines.

 

[Long live PAFC]

Had a great draft year but didn’t smash it at senior WAFL level, that’s why I’m saying if the likes of Williams and Amiss perform at the national champs I wouldn’t be afraid to select them in the first round because the likes of Allen had similar draft years without performing at senior level.

Oscar Allen had a strong draft year, played forward, back, ruck and wing and was competing against the best the country had to offer in his age group. His versatility and being from WA and wanting to stay probably meant he went a little lower than he should have. He was also training/playing with reserves and league.

I wouldn’t say no to the current crop of WA talls, WA seem to produce and develop talls well. I’m just suggesting that beating up on smaller, weaker and less talented opponents without seeing them against their cross state peers, could be misleading. If we could take Williams and Amiss in that 15-40 bracket that would work perfectly.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

The Torrens University SA U19 team is preparing to face Western Australia in Game 1 of its 2021 AFL National Championship campaign on Saturday August 7.

The match in Perth was originally scheduled to be the Croweaters’ second game but now, pending Covid restrictions, it will be the opener after the original Game 1 against the Allies at Hisense Stadium this Sunday was postponed due to the current lockdown in South Australia.

Speaking on SANFL Radio, Torrens University SA U19 coach Tony Bamford said it had been a difficult task to trim the squad back to 33 players, after using an internal trial match last week as part of the selection process.

The Phase 2 squad will cover the opening two matches of the campaign against WA and the Allies before Phase 3 kicks off with games against the two Victorian sides in Melbourne after the SANFL season concludes in late September.

This will give players such as Norwood pair Henry Nelligan and Ned Carey the opportunity overcome current injuries to have a chance to play later in the year. Those who narrowly missed out can also push their case for selection with their SANFL clubs in the latter part of the current season.

Bamford highlighted a handful of players who impressed in the selection trial match, including Eagle Brayden Calvett, North’s Harvey Harrison and Central’s Luca Whitelum.

Glenelg’s Dayne McGary is another to watch, having overcome a back injury after not being able to play much football living in Melbourne last year.

South Adelaide pair Matthew Roberts and Arlo Draper are still recovering from ankle injuries but are on track to be available for Game 1 while Bamford also gave great insight into fellow Panther Jason Horne, who is continuing to impress at League level while also juggling his job working for the Fleurieu Milk Company.

Phase 2 Torrens University SA U19 Squad Released - SANFL

sanfl.com.au

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Ideal draft prospects: Luckily for the Power, a lot of the top midfielders in this year’s draft are from South Australia. If they hold their natural first-round pick, they’d be optimistically hoping one of South Adelaide duo Arlo Draper or Matthew Roberts slips through to them. Both inside midfielders have been sidelined of late due to injury, but clubs are aware of their prodigious talent. Draper has averaged 24.0 disposals and 6.6 clearances, while adding 10 goals, from his eight SANFL Under 18s games this year, while Roberts’ blistering first three Under 18s games – he kicked five goals and averaged 32.0 disposals, 8.3 marks, 7.7 tackles, 7.7 inside 50s and 6.3 clearances – saw him elevated to South Adelaide’s league team. If both are off the board by Port’s first pick, Northern Knights on-baller Josh Ward could still be available. His stocks have risen significantly this year, averaging 30.4 disposals from his six NAB League games and producing an eye-catching performance for Vic Metro in a trial game.

The player your AFL club should consider taking with their first draft pick

Every AFL club’s biggest list hole... and the draft star that can fix it

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[robbo1981]

No way Roberts is available

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

West Coast have said they will only draft kids from private schools and/or stable families as the soft cap means they cannot support players who are not from a stable background.

 

[NoddyHolder]

West Coast have said they will only draft kids from private schools and/or stable families as the soft cap means they cannot support players who are not from a stable background.

Disgraceful

 

[BigDance]

West Coast have said they will only draft kids from private schools and/or stable families as the soft cap means they cannot support players who are not from a stable background.

Disgraceful

Sorry to intrude on your thread but you realise this was all sarcasm and a dig at the AFL right? He was saying that if the AFL keep cutting costs to football departments and not allowing clubs the option of having psychologists etc on their staff, clubs would shy away from picking kids from high risk backgrounds as they wouldn’t have the time and resources to support them.

 

[philthy05]

Sorry to intrude on your thread but you realise this was all sarcasm and a dig at the AFL right? He was saying that if the AFL keep cutting costs to football departments and not allowing clubs the option of having psychologists etc on their staff, clubs would shy away from picking kids from high risk backgrounds as they wouldn’t have the time and resources to support them.

Pretty well the exact context rendell made his comments

 

[davesnothere]

Alex Rance

Alex Rance

Age

36

Ht

194cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

8.9

3star

HB

7.7

5star

M

5.7

5star

T

2.4

4star

MG

226.9

3star

No current season stats available

D

17.0

5star

K

5.8

3star

HB

11.2

5star

M

5.0

5star

T

3.6

5star

does say it's not a comeback but I wonder how many clubs would be getting in his ear about him still having a couple of years left at the top level?

 

[robbo1981]

Cal Twomey has updated is phantom form guide has Roberts sliding to 15.
Was hoping he might slide due to be injured for a chunk of the season would love to get him with our first then Burgoyne