AFL Grand Final 2023 AFL Grand Final - Carringbush v Brisbane 🏆

[thylacine60]

It’s our next 6-8 that’s the problem. Our bottom six is good enough when we aren’t stacked with injuries but the minute we have 6-8 on the injury list we become a bog average team.

wut?

 

[Jimthegreat]

Someone wrote during the week our bottom 6 wouldn't walk into the other top 4 sides. I saw players win a premiership yesterday who ain't any better than our bottom 6.

We were winning huge games, often easily, in our run that often had 6 good players out, including the Collingwood game. Our bottom 6 weren't too bad. Not to mention the bottom 6 more after that.

Alot say "you can't win a flag with such and such in your side". This proves you can. Billy Frampton now has one more premiership medal than Nathan Buckley. We all look for the perfect team. No team is perfect. We are ripe next year. The run of 8 losses in 9 weeks killed our season. Had too much to do and it cooked us in the end. 3 months of sudden death matches takes it's toll. Win 3 of those games, finish top 4 and I reckon we'd have won it this year.

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

Frampton got 2 possies and has a premiership medal. I reckon I could get at least 3, put me in Coach!

 

[bigblueboy]

Zero votes for Steele Sidebottom

22

Steele Sidebottom

Age

33

Ht

184cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.4

5star

K

14.1

5star

HB

13.3

5star

M

5.5

5star

T

3.7

5star

CL

3.2

5star

D

24.0

5star

K

12.0

5star

HB

12.0

5star

M

4.5

4star

T

4.3

5star

CL

2.3

4star

D

31.6

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

17.2

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

4.2

5star

CL

6.0

5star

in the Norm Smith

 

[BringFevBack2021]

It’s a bit of a spew that they managed to win this one as I can’t see them being competitive in 2 years with all the inevitable outgoings. The Weagles had way less resting on 30+ year olds in 2018 than the Pies did this year.

Of their Premiership winning side, 9 will be 30+ next year. That doesn’t include Adams, who didn’t play but is absolutely best 18.

To illustrate how dire it’s gonna get, here are the 10 with their successors that are on their current list (that didn’t play yesterday, obviously):
Scott Pendlebury

10

Scott Pendlebury

Age

36

Ht

191cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.5

5star

K

13.2

5star

HB

13.3

5star

M

4.1

4star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

25.1

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

12.9

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

3star

CL

3.6

4star

D

12.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

4.8

4star

M

5.8

5star

T

2.6

4star

- Fin Macrae
Jeremy Howe

38

Jeremy Howe

Age

33

Ht

190cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.0

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

5.7

4star

M

6.4

5star

T

2.1

4star

MG

318.1

4star

D

21.5

5star

K

16.5

5star

HB

5.0

3star

M

6.5

5star

T

2.0

3star

MG

433.3

5star

D

15.2

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

6.8

5star

T

1.6

4star

- Trey Ruscoe
Steel Sidebottom - John Noble

9

John Noble

Age

27

Ht

180cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.3

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

7.1

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

186.1

3star

D

14.2

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

3.2

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

149.7

3star

D

18.8

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

229.8

4star

Mason Cox

46

Mason Cox

Age

33

Ht

211cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.7

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.2

4star

D

6.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.3

2star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.8

5star

- Oscar Steene
Jamie Elliot - Trent Bianco?
Brodie Mihochek - Ash Johnson
Tom Mitchell - Reef McInnes
Will Hoskin Elliot - Arlo Draper
Taylor Adams

3

Taylor Adams

Age

30

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

24.9

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

11.4

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

4.8

5star

CL

5.0

5star

D

20.4

5star

K

12.4

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

5.9

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

18.2

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.0

5star

CL

2.2

4star

- Ed Allan
Jack Crisp

25

Jack Crisp

Age

30

Ht

190cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.2

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

9.7

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

4.0

5star

MG

307.6

4star

D

17.7

4star

K

10.7

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.6

3star

MG

307.6

4star

D

14.4

4star

K

8.4

4star

HB

6.0

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.0

5star

- Jakob Ryan

They are deadset cooked with that list profile! They’ve pulled it off this year and that’s what they’ll be judged on but wow, if the Lions knocked them off we’d have had years and years to hold over them.

It was a great game though and they did deserve to win, and were very fun to watch. But wowee we could’ve had a golden era of taunting the black and white army had they lost in the last minute then fell away to obscurity for years.

 

[AndyLucimitis]

The day after the GF and I’ve got to say it. Collingwood look unbeatable. They do everything better than everyone else. May as well hand them the Cup now and not bother about 2024.

Superteam - won three finals by a total of 12 points !!

 

[Benaly28]

Superteam - won three finals by a total of 12 points !!

Won’t get near it next year and years to come.


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[thylacine60]

what was the crowd yesterday, aside from the usual personal hygiene issues?

 

[Monty1978]

what was the crowd yesterday, aside from the usual personal hygiene issues?

Just over 100k

 

[Ezayyak]

It’s our next 6-8 that’s the problem. Our bottom six is good enough when we aren’t stacked with injuries but the minute we have 6-8 on the injury list we become a bog average team.

Far from it. Our depth is deeper than almost all teams. We used more players than Melbourne and Brisbane this year because of injury.

Brisbane had 9 players play every game, a further 3 miss one game and a further 3 miss two games. A total of 15 players missed 2 games or less.

Collingwood had 4 players every game, 3 miss one game, 5 miss two games. A total of 12 players missed 2 or less.

Melbourne, 5 every game, 4 miss one game, 5 miss 2. Total of 14 missed less 2 or less.

GWS, 3 every game, 3 miss 1 game and 2 miss 2 games. Total of 8 missed 2 or less.

Port, 6 played every game, 3 missed one game, 1 missed one game. A total of 10 missed 2 or less.

Carlton 2 played every game, 2 missed one game and 2 missed two games. A total of 6 players missed 2 games or less.

Our depth stacked up very well.

 

[thebluenewdeal]

Far from it. Our depth is deeper than almost all teams. We used more players than Melbourne and Brisbane this year because of injury.

Brisbane had 9 players play every game, a further 3 miss one game and a further 3 miss two games. A total of 15 players missed 2 games or less.

Collingwood had 4 players every game, 3 miss one game, 5 miss two games. A total of 12 players missed 2 or less.

Melbourne, 5 every game, 4 miss one game, 5 miss 2. Total of 14 missed less 2 or less.

GWS, 3 every game, 3 miss 1 game and 2 miss 2 games. Total of 8 missed 2 or less.

Port, 6 played every game, 3 missed one game, 1 missed one game. A total of 10 missed 2 or less.

Carlton 2 played every game, 2 missed one game and 2 missed two games. A total of 6 players missed 2 games or less.

Our depth stacked up very well.

I think we tend to drop off significantly when a certain amount of players aren’t in our forward half and backline. That’s just what my eyes tell me. I can’t argue with those numbers though

 

[RAPPA]

It’s a bit of a spew that they managed to win this one as I can’t see them being competitive in 2 years with all the inevitable outgoings. The Weagles had way less resting on 30+ year olds in 2018 than the Pies did this year.

Of their Premiership winning side, 9 will be 30+ next year. That doesn’t include Adams, who didn’t play but is absolutely best 18.

To illustrate how dire it’s gonna get, here are the 10 with their successors that are on their current list (that didn’t play yesterday, obviously):
Scott Pendlebury - Fin Macrae
Jeremy Howe - Trey Ruscoe
Steel Sidebottom - John Noble
Mason Cox - Oscar Steene
Jamie Elliot - Trent Bianco?
Brodie Mihochek - Ash Johnson
Tom Mitchell - Reef McInnes
Will Hoskin Elliot - Arlo Draper
Taylor Adams - Ed Allan
Jack Crisp - Jakob Ryan

They are deadset cooked with that list profile! They’ve pulled it off this year and that’s what they’ll be judged on but wow, if the Lions knocked them off we’d have had years and years to hold over them.

It was a great game though and they did deserve to win, and were very fun to watch. But wowee we could’ve had a golden era of taunting the black and white army had they lost in the last minute then fell away to obscurity for years.

Fly will try to emulate Clarko and top up to plug holes to continue the premiership window.

 

[jj1978]

Just over 100k

Officially at capacity a Full house, 100024

 

[BringFevBack2021]

Fly will try to emulate Clarko and top up to plug holes to continue the premiership window.

Yeah, I agree - I just don't see how they're going to achieve that given how much money is tied up in their top end by all reports. Plus, they have no depth to trade out. Of the players that didn't play in the 23 on the weekend that are 28 or younger, all would only have nominal value on the trade table except John Noble and Ash Johnson - both of which would command a late 2nd or early 3rd at most.

Anyway, credit to them - they've achieved the ultimate. That list just looks like a disaster waiting to happen in a few years.

 

[Aphrodite]

what was the crowd yesterday, aside from the usual personal hygiene issues?

 

[Gethelred]

umpiring - it's as hilariously pointless as whingeing about the weather..........at least when we do that we don't expect it to change.....

Curse you, o clouds of fluffy white!

 

[thylacine60]

Curse you, o clouds of fluffy white!

 

[Gethelred]

Yeah, I agree - I just don't see how they're going to achieve that given how much money is tied up in their top end by all reports. Plus, they have no depth to trade out. Of the players that didn't play in the 23 on the weekend that are 28 or younger, all would only have nominal value on the trade table except John Noble and Ash Johnson - both of which would command a late 2nd or early 3rd at most.

Anyway, credit to them - they've achieved the ultimate. That list just looks like a disaster waiting to happen in a few years.

I'm not so sure it does. Plenty of variety and talent in their below 27 demographics.

 

[thylacine60]

anyone thinking the pies will fall off the earth in the next few years is being a little overly hopeful - they have the same opportunities to bring in new talent as the rest of us - sure their draft picks may be shallow but that will made up for by now being the ultimate destination club...............


little overly - foxymoron?

 

[My Hat]

A Magpies fan gave his dad a premiership tattoo. It didn’t end well

Amid the delirium of Collingwood’s grand final win on Saturday, Zak Ashton learnt how to set up a tattoo gun by watching TikToks. Unfortunately for his dad Matt, things went downhill from there.

www.theage.com.au

https://archive.md/tXti8

 

[DirtyLeeds]

It’s our next 6-8 that’s the problem. Our bottom six is good enough when we aren’t stacked with injuries but the minute we have 6-8 on the injury list we become a bog average team.

Hey dude we came third, from the top, not third last!!!! WTF is going through these people's heads? We came third and are happy, better be careful they'll be telling us we're accepting failure, settling for second best, blah, blah, blah..........

Same campaigners no matter what the Team achieves, should we win the flag next year, it'll be that we didn't smash them, and win by 50 points......

 

[RPCB]

Someone wrote during the week our bottom 6 wouldn't walk into the other top 4 sides. I saw players win a premiership yesterday who ain't any better than our bottom 6.

I doubt the average supporter could name the bottom 6 of every top 4 side.

 

[thebluenewdeal]

Hey dude we came third, from the top, not third last!!!! WTF is going through these people's heads? We came third and are happy, better be careful they'll be telling us we're accepting failure, settling for second best, blah, blah, blah..........

Same campaigners no matter what the Team achieves, should we win the flag next year, it'll be that we didn't smash them, and win by 50 points......

Lol chill dude, even the itks just said the club believe we need to strengthen our depth. I don’t think I’m being unreasonable. Great finish to the year but if we just ignore what happened throughout the campaign and just expect we’ll continue onto next year in the same way we ended the year then we’re just being complacent. We’ve got to keep the standard high now

 

[Graffy4242]

Apparently Markov wearing a Blues jumper with his premiership medal to their Mad Monday celebrations as an "up yours" to us for not selecting him. What a campaigner.

Hilarious that they are still thinking of us when they just won the flag.

Can't wait to play them next year.

 

[thylacine60]

what was the crowd yesterday, aside from the usual personal hygiene issues?

Poor old see-tracks, upset having his hygiene questioned......