List Mgmt. 2023 List Management thread

[Snuffaluphagus]

Mod notice after Mr Bob did a lot of annoying work in moving days of posts out of here. As we are heading into offseason, this thread is for 2023 list management only. Getting upset on previous trades can be taken to the vent thread. Lets keep this thread on track in the part of the year it's actually relevant

 

[Footskill]

Pro

big difference
Demons were awesome on & off the field
Freo were a "wholesome" club on the rise
evils were into their second drug cheating phase and it was so out of hand, player health was secondary to ladder position

What I mean is that's why juddy stayed as long as he did. Until the issues you covered with the weagles and Bec prob no issue with moving.

Cerra on the other hand every intention to move home to be closer to family just like Jackson has

Cerra btw has now been subbed out with hamstring issues

 

[FreoRicci]

Besides it’s not Schulz worry about, it’s Switkowski. Happily trade for Brockman and replace Switter. Been awful this season. Think the game has accelerated past him with the limited tools he has.

 

[freo1997]

We should be looking at Liam Ryan

31

Liam Ryan

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

as a crumbing option.

 

[eastfreo75]

We should be looking at Liam Ryan as a crumbing option.

I’m in two minds about him.

He is actually the player we need.

His off field behaviour won’t have the protection of the Eagle network. Media will go after him.

 

[SiempreFreo]

Henry is not a major loss IMO. He’s just a fringe player in reality and nothing like Ed Langdon or Brad Hill.
Yeah he’s been decent enough recently but it’s from a low enough base. If we can get the dogs later first round pick in a trade of some sort and hold onto pick 21 too - it’s a massive win. I don’t think we will but if Bell can do so somehow it would compensate a bit for the Jackson trade debacle. Henry has a very questionable attitude, it’s a small thing but when I saw him running over to Walters to do some stupid handshandy celebration thing the other day after Walters kicked the goal when we were about 40 points down I thought to myself are you talking the piss mate?
We have been absolutely s**t in a home game against 14th placed side and you are running around trying to entertain the crowd with your nonsense celebration. As if we were 40 points ahead, not behind.

I'm annoyed about Liam leaving 'cos he's undercutting Freo's investment. But I watched that handshake with different eyes.

To me Sonny drove it equally. I interpreted it as keeping up spirits, effort etc. - and maybe emphasising connection with the team - at least from Sonny.

 

[Ge3ks]

Cerra tearing Collingwood apart, well done Freo management.

You would be saying the exact same thing if we didn't select him.

 

[Madas]

We should be looking at Liam Ryan as a crumbing option.

Definitely
Fits our needs perfectly
Is that where we should use our first pick ?

 

[SiempreFreo]

Could Switta be better as a Half back flanker? In that Adam Saad style position?

Like it. Saad can be very damaging.

 

[Docker82]

I’m in two minds about him.

He is actually the player we need.

His off field behaviour won’t have the protection of the Eagle network. Media will go after him.

He’d last two weeks at Freo.

West Coast and their buddies in the media have covered a lot of things up.

He’d be better off in Melbourne as long as he doesn’t do the same stuff again.

 

[Superkoops]

Having a go at Freo for selecting and losing Cerra. That’s a good one. He was a good selection at 5 (peeps argue should have selected Naughton but you can see the need for Cerra in the centre) and then losing him due to family and the pull to return home for pick 6 and F3. Pick 6 moved to 8 for Jye Amiss and F3 helped secure Jordan Clark

6

Jordan Clark

Age

25

Ht

185cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.7

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

4.3

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.5

3star

K

8.5

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.2

3star

K

10.4

4star

HB

1.8

2star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.4

4star

. Same goes for Ed Langdon

15

Ed Langdon

Age

29

Ht

182cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.0

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

9.0

5star

M

5.0

5star

T

2.3

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

20.3

5star

K

12.8

5star

HB

7.5

4star

M

4.5

4star

T

0.8

1star

CL

1.8

4star

D

13.0

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.4

4star

CL

0.6

3star

- he wanted to go home and part of that trade combined with part of the Brad Hill trade helped secure pick 8 for Serong ahead of a bid on Henry.

The club needs to be held accountable for losing Neale and then trying to turn that into a net positive by adding in a speculative/talented player with short term view in Hogan (that was after we already had a key forward in the same trade period - Lobb).

Also have a go at club for bringing in unnecessary depth players (like Matera, Corbett, Kersten, Conca etc.) whilst letting good b24/25 players go (via trade/Delistings).

 

[Scham]

We need to trade in a mature age KD as insurance for Pearce who is almost always injured and deteriorating rapidly as a player. Davies has shown small glimpses but is country miles away from AFL level and Draper hasn't shown much at all and is further away. Benning won't make it and Chapman is a third tall at best, so we're badly exposed in that part of the ground over the next 12 - 18 mths at the very least.

 

[pK75]

We need to trade in a mature age KD as insurance for Pearce who is almost always injured and deteriorating rapidly as a player. Davies has shown small glimpses but is country miles away from AFL level and Draper hasn't shown much at all and is further away. Benning won't make it and Chapman is a third tall at best, so we're badly exposed in that part of the ground over the next 12 - 18 mths at the very least.

Does anyone know what the knock on Ethan Phillips is? He was talked up big time this time last year but went undrafted

 

[Docker82]

We need to trade in a mature age KD as insurance for Pearce who is almost always injured and deteriorating rapidly as a player. Davies has shown small glimpses but is country miles away from AFL level and Draper hasn't shown much at all and is further away. Benning won't make it and Chapman is a third tall at best, so we're badly exposed in that part of the ground over the next 12 - 18 mths at the very least.

It’s going to be very hard to move a KPD across the country on what is likely to be 2-3 year deal to essentially play WAFL until we get an injury. Anyone we’d give a longer deal to is probably an irresponsible use of the salary cap as we’d have to pay them best 22 money.

Best bet is to look at the state leagues and maybe delisted free agents imo. A lot of DFAs will probably take anything to stay in the system unless there’s a better offer available whilst mature aged draftees don’t have a say in who drafts them.

 

[blue shark]

I’m in two minds about him.

He is actually the player we need.

His off field behaviour won’t have the protection of the Eagle network. Media will go after him.

He’d be great in a team on the rise. Unfortunately his down hill skiing reflects
his persona.

We need to trade in a mature age KD as insurance for Pearce who is almost always injured and deteriorating rapidly as a player. Davies has shown small glimpses but is country miles away from AFL level and Draper hasn't shown much at all and is further away. Benning won't make it and Chapman is a third tall at best, so we're badly exposed in that part of the ground over the next 12 - 18 mths at the very least.

Missing Cox and Chapman, hopefully they will be available next year.
But when the opposition are trouncing us in a quarter we need to
send Treacy down back.
Chapman needs to add some muscle to his frame, as do most of
the team.
No wonder we get bullied, physically we are off the pace.
Fix that and the attitude, belief will lift.

 

[King Tenz]

We should be looking at Liam Ryan as a crumbing option.

Absolutely should be. Pissed me off seeing Hawthorn are going to try and get him... He's exactly what we need and he's legit right up the road.

 

[freo1997]

Absolutely should be. Pissed me off seeing Hawthorn are going to try and get him... He's exactly what we need and he's legit right up the road.

His off field shenanigan are an issue though.

A competent organisation would back itself in to get the best out. Let’s not forget all the off field shit Farmer did. He let his footy do the talking though and all the off field stuff is largely forgotten.

 

[sumavich]

I'm starting to come to the realisation that we will never win a flag.
Makes footy more appealing as we are shit, and always will be shit.
Bit like Norf, except they have flags

 

[Taylor]

His off field shenanigan are an issue though.

A competent organisation would back itself in to get the best out. Let’s not forget all the off field s**t Farmer did. He let his footy do the talking though and all the off field stuff is largely forgotten.

The difference isn't about which stories are forgotten, it's about which never get told in the first place.

 

[go_the_dockers]

I'm starting to come to the realisation that we will never win a flag.
Makes footy more appealing as we are s**t, and always will be s**t.
Bit like Norf, except they have flags

So many self inflicted wounds.
I don't think the club even aims for a premiership.

 

[freo1997]

I'm starting to come to the realisation that we will never win a flag.
Makes footy more appealing as we are s**t, and always will be s**t.
Bit like Norf, except they have flags

Bring in a better coach like we did after 2011 and the wins will come.

Serong, AB, Young, Amiss, Jaegar, Clark… the for crying out loud!!!!! Talent is there. We just need a competent coaches box and style. Need someone to inspire.

 

[freo_leo29]

We should be looking at Liam Ryan as a crumbing option.

It looks like Colin Young is taking the money bags at Hawthorn for him

 

[Ge3ks]

I'm starting to come to the realisation that we will never win a flag.

We may never.

But it's been an incredible ride.

 

[DQ 4EVER]

3 words from 2day
Must Keep Sturt

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[Taylor]

I actually think Sturt is the more vulnerable of the forwards. If we draft a player with the hintest of speed, similar size and some power Sturt is the one in the gun.

I like how his game is building and he makes us look a lot better when he is on the wing a bit, we need some kicking composure between the arcs to get those marks I rattle on about. He has that.

It would be a shame to lose him right as he blossoms into his next evolution of game.

 

[Dockeroo]

3 words from 2day
Must Keep Sturt

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Without question. If there is no contract in front of him by now then I don’t know WTF the list management is thinking?