Prediction 2024 Round 1 Team

[4quarter_cat]

That was Wiltshire I think

Well then I take it all back. As you were.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Happy to hear Mackie mention that COS will spend some time up against guys like Curnow and McKay tomorrow.

So that means COS is playing and will be playing mostly as a backman I’d assume.

I like the idea of COS and SDK eventually becoming two monster brick walls in our D50.

 

[CHAWKTS]

Ok. For A bit of fun…I would be interested in peoples view on this.

Context: Today Collingwood fielded a team with just one player 30+. My first thought was could the cats field a team like that!!

I thought given that I would pick a Cats team with only one player over 30 (Captain Danger for the sake of the excersise)

FB: Henry, SDK, Kolo
HB: Zuthrie, COS, MOC
C: Knevitt Atkins Holmes
HF: Miers, O Henry, Dempsey
F: Stengle, Neale, Mannagh
R: Conway Danger Bruhn
Interchange: Parfitt, Clark, Bowes, Jeka, willis/stevens/chlosey (take your pick as sub)


You know what I quite like this team. The difficult one was a tall or two short (in forward and back up ruck). Jeka got in by default a bit. You could swing Henry forward.

Did I miss anyone? People views on this team?

EDIT: Clear omission pointed out..

Need Mullin on the bench. Issue is who of the 4 goes to Sub? Probably just bump Jeka out of the team for Mullin. Highlights that lack of Talls.

 

[CHAWKTS]

Happy to hear Mackie mention that COS will spend some time up against guys like Curnow and McKay tomorrow.

So that means COS is playing and will be playing mostly as a backman I’d assume.

I like the idea of COS and SDK eventually becoming two monster brick walls in our D50.

I was with you until I heard him add the word “potentially” at the end (ie. he could play against those players “potentially”). I think he has learned well off Lloyd in terms of answering a lot of these questions with a whole lot of caveats… (which is probably what you need to do).

Tomorrow given 36 degrees, no doubt they might even rotate more than they would in a normal practise game so we might see a more fluid run through of players - which would be nice.

In terms of who plays rounds 1 all I got out of Mackie is that he has done a great job as list manager providing the coaches with a massive amount of options!

 

[CatToTheFuture]

All 100% true, BUT, our best brigade (our oldies)are another year older, and we can not know how Bruhn, OH, Bowes, DeK, Stengle, Holmes, Miers, ZG, MOC, Parfitt, Close are going to step up. They are our next tier, and no longer can we or should we expect year long top performances from- Stanley, Blic, Danger, JC, CGuthrie, Duncan, Rohan, (& Tuohy, Bews, Kolo- who most here have already virtually discarded from our best 22).
We know what Stewart will give us.

We're not actually a year older, we're maybe 2 months older in average than last year and younger than we were in 2022.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Ok. For A bit of fun…I would be interested in peoples view on this.

Context: Today Collingwood fielded a team with just one player 30+. My first thought was could the cats field a team like that!!

I thought given that I would pick a Cats team with only one player over 30 (Captain Danger for the sake of the excersise)

FB: Henry, SDK, Kolo
HB: Zuthrie, COS, MOC
C: Knevitt Atkins Holmes
HF: Miers, O Henry, Dempsey
F: Stengle, Neale, Mannagh
R: Conway Danger Bruhn
Interchange: Parfitt, Clark, Bowes, Jeka, willis/stevens/chlosey (take your pick as sub)


You know what I quite like this team. The difficult one was a tall or two short (in forward and back up ruck). Jeka got in by default a bit. You could swing Henry forward.

Did I miss anyone? People views on this team?

Would belt west coast by 5 goals

 

[moond0g]

Ok. For A bit of fun…I would be interested in peoples view on this.

Context: Today Collingwood fielded a team with just one player 30+. My first thought was could the cats field a team like that!!

I thought given that I would pick a Cats team with only one player over 30 (Captain Danger for the sake of the excersise)

FB: Henry, SDK, Kolo
HB: Zuthrie, COS, MOC
C: Knevitt Atkins Holmes
HF: Miers, O Henry, Dempsey
F: Stengle, Neale, Mannagh
R: Conway Danger Bruhn
Interchange: Parfitt, Clark, Bowes, Jeka, willis/stevens/chlosey (take your pick as sub)


You know what I quite like this team. The difficult one was a tall or two short (in forward and back up ruck). Jeka got in by default a bit. You could swing Henry forward.

Did I miss anyone? People views on this team?

The last couple of bench spots are basically fillers (but they kind of have to be with so many >30 players).

Otherwise, everyone has talent at least and seem like they could be AFL standard, but many are unproven/inconsistent. The biggest issue is the tall forwards without Hawkins and Cameron.

 

[D BRIDGE]

I was with you until I heard him add the word “potentially” at the end (ie. he could play against those players “potentially”). I think he has learned well off Lloyd in terms of answering a lot of these questions with a whole lot of caveats… (which is probably what you need to do).

Tomorrow given 36 degrees, no doubt they might even rotate more than they would in a normal practise game so we might see a more fluid run through of players - which would be nice.

In terms of who plays rounds 1 all I got out of Mackie is that he has done a great job as list manager providing the coaches with a massive amount of options!

Mackie has a real habit of being asked a simple question and then going on a long tangent that leads to something else.

He doesn’t give much.

I will be surprised if COS isn’t playing in the main team after what he said though.

I do like how Mackie did mention that we would have extra water for the players to combat the heat… I was happy to hear that.

 

[Mr Meow]

Ok. For A bit of fun…I would be interested in peoples view on this.

Context: Today Collingwood fielded a team with just one player 30+. My first thought was could the cats field a team like that!!

I thought given that I would pick a Cats team with only one player over 30 (Captain Danger for the sake of the excersise)

FB: Henry, SDK, Kolo
HB: Zuthrie, COS, MOC
C: Knevitt Atkins Holmes
HF: Miers, O Henry, Dempsey
F: Stengle, Neale, Mannagh
R: Conway Danger Bruhn
Interchange: Parfitt, Clark, Bowes, Jeka, willis/stevens/chlosey (take your pick as sub)


You know what I quite like this team. The difficult one was a tall or two short (in forward and back up ruck). Jeka got in by default a bit. You could swing Henry forward.

Did I miss anyone? People views on this team?

It's not a terrible side considering who it excludes. A bunch we don't quite know at AFL level but can be optimistic (Conway, Clark, Knevitt, Dempsey, Mannagh etc).

Bowes might be in trouble if he still can't get off the bench in an under 30 side.

Harsh on Mullin, did you forget him?

An elite back flanker, midfielder with tricks, possibly a speedy wingman and another tall target up forward are needs.

I wonder if Kolo can last the distance if we'd consider SDK up forward when Cameron retires. Then J.Henry and COS become the two defensive pillars.

SDK, Neale and O.Henry could be a handful if they all progress well. Given they look set as far as dangerous smalls at their feet.

HF: Miers SDK Close
FF. O.Henry Neale Stengle
IC: Dempsey

 

[CHAWKTS]

It's not a terrible side considering who it excludes. A bunch we don't quite know at AFL level but can be optimistic (Conway, Clark, Knevitt, Dempsey, Mannagh etc).

Bowes might be in trouble if he still can't get off the bench in an under 30 side.

Harsh on Mullin, did you forget him?

An elite back flanker, midfielder with tricks, possibly a speedy wingman and another tall target up forward are needs.

I wonder if Kolo can last the distance if we'd consider SDK up forward when Cameron retires. Then J.Henry and COS become the two defensive pillars.

SDK, Neale and O.Henry could be a handful if they all progress well. Given they look set as far as dangerous smalls at their feet.

HF: Miers SDK Close
FF. O.Henry Neale Stengle
IC: Dempsey

Yes Mullin definitely in. I had him in my backs but then remembered Henry was young! So shuffled Mullin out with intention to add him to bench - but forgot. Will edit

Interesting regarding SDK. My gut tells me that we will recruit a younger KPF over next couple of years rather than move SDK? Maybe?

 

[Mr Meow]

We're not actually a year older, we're maybe 2 months older in average than last year and younger than we were in 2022.

People struggle with comprehending that a bunch of 30-32 year olds being 2 years older is balanced out by our main 22 potentially having Selwood, Smith, Tuohy, Bews and Rohan out from that side. All fine players but that's a lot of old legs replaced by Bruhn, O.Henry, Bowes, Dempsey, Knevitt, Mullin etc.

 

[4quarter_cat]

People struggle with comprehending that a bunch of 30-32 year olds being 2 years older is balanced out by our main 22 potentially having Selwood, Smith, Tuohy, Bews and Rohan out from that side. All fine players but that's a lot of old legs replaced by Bruhn, O.Henry, Bowes, Dempsey, Knevitt, Mullin etc.

Don't think it's comprehension. I think most question whether those young guys really are good enough yet to displace/replace those players.

For Example.
Bruhn /= Selwood
Knevitt /= Smith
Mullin /= Touhy
Dempsey /= Rohan

Now they might have come on and be the better option, I'm certainly optimistic for some of them, but it still hasn't happened yet.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Don't think it's comprehension. I think most question whether those young guys really are good enough yet to displace/replace those players.

For Example.
Bruhn /= Selwood
Knevitt /= Smith
Mullin /= Touhy
Dempsey /= Rohan

Now they might have come on and be the better option, I'm certainly optimistic for some of them, but it still hasn't happened yet.

Yeah but that just means the question isn't whether we are young but whether we are good

 

[4quarter_cat]

I prefer to take a step back and look at whether we can realistically expect more improvement from our kids than drop off from the seniors who I know will be picked.

I think that compared to 2023 the answer to this is overwhelmingly yes.

 

[Mr Meow]

Don't think it's comprehension. I think most question whether those young guys really are good enough yet to displace/replace those players.

For Example.
Bruhn /= Selwood
Knevitt /= Smith
Mullin /= Touhy
Dempsey /= Rohan

Now they might have come on and be the better option, I'm certainly optimistic for some of them, but it still hasn't happened yet.

But the recurring skeptical call is never "can the new guys step up, can our under 28s improve?".

It is "we were already old, now we're even older and people think we can wind the clock back?".

5 sets of fresh legs, a sizeable amount more depth and a huge pre season could in fact have the rest of the veterans in the shape they were 2 years ago. "But they're old, they'll just get injured again" is another lazy retort. More help and maybe things will be different.

People are very lazy with how they try to preview a team compared to a previous season. There are so many moving parts.

 

[4quarter_cat]

Yeah but that just means the question isn't whether we are young but whether we are good

Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[4quarter_cat]

But the recurring skeptical call is never "can the new guys step up, can our under 28s improve?".

It is "we were already old, now we're even older and people think we can wind the clock back?".

5 sets of fresh legs, a sizeable amount more depth and a huge pre season could in fact have the rest of the veterans in the shape they were 2 years ago. "But they're old, they'll just get injured again" is another lazy retort. More help and maybe things will be different.

People are very lazy with how they try to preview a team compared to a previous season. There are so many moving parts.

We all have different levels of thought and consideration we put into answering these questions though. Atleast they are putting themselves out there to part of the conversation.

I think about these things alot, but then I'm coming from a fair way back compared to many given I've never even played the game. So I'm happy to hear from anyone who shares their thoughts and takes the time to explain how they came to and why their conclusion is relevant. No doubt there are many posters who spend far less time than me but are still far more knowledgeable.

 

[CHAWKTS]

SQUAD ANNOUNCEMENT

I got excited when I saw the AFL app notification…to then see that every other team released the teams except the CATS

Then a few minutes later I got notification from CATS app…more excited to see

To then see that they said tomorrow we have 41 AFL players and 17 VFL players playing!! So we are non the wiser on who is playing at 11:30 and who at 1:45

Confirms the view that we will have 8-10 on the bench for each game with a whole bunch of players only doing a half or 3 qtrs rotation

 

[Mr Meow]

We all have different levels of thought and consideration we put into answering these questions though. Atleast they are putting themselves out there to part of the conversation.

I think about these things alot, but then I'm coming from a fair way back compared to many given I've never even played the game. So I'm happy to hear from anyone who shares their thoughts and takes the time to explain how they came to and why their conclusion is relevant. No doubt there are many posters who spend far less time than me but are still far more knowledgeable.

Yeah the different levels is what I'm referring to. People also mistake healthy optimism for entitlement/complacency. The day I'm not optimistic heading into a season will be a sad day.

Too old, too slow we get every year without much more analysis. Yet two of our oldest sides under Scott (average age) were the premiership ones. So "who knows" is the best answer. But that doesn't fly on forums.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

SQUAD ANNOUNCEMENT

I got excited when I saw the AFL app notification…to then see that every other team released the teams except the CATS

Then a few minutes later I got notification from CATS app…more excited to see

To then see that they said tomorrow we have 41 AFL players and 17 VFL players playing!! So we are non the wiser on who is playing at 11:30 and who at 1:45

Confirms the view that we will have 8-10 on the bench for each game with a whole bunch of players only doing a half or 3 qtrs rotation

I got so excited for the squad announcement then they just announced everyone in a big list....

 

[4quarter_cat]

Yeah the different levels is what I'm referring to. People also mistake healthy optimism for entitlement/complacency. The day I'm not optimistic heading into a season will be a sad day.

Too old, too slow we get every year without much more analysis. Yet two of our oldest sides under Scott (average age) were the premiership ones. So "who knows" is the best answer. But that doesn't fly on forums.

Maybe it's Chris Scott's personal motto. Too Old. Too Slow. Too Good.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

That makes sense to us mortals - that they picked him to play…and surely that had in mind he was a good OPTION to plug and play…but I think they then just see how everyone trains and plays and pick the best in their view. For him to play he needs to go past someone. Maybe he will but no guarantee I don’t think (which is a good thing as it means someone is playing better!)

I think after the practice games he will zoom past a few.

 

[Vdubs]

Don't think it's comprehension. I think most question whether those young guys really are good enough yet to displace/replace those players.

For Example.
Bruhn /= Selwood
Knevitt /= Smith
Mullin /= Touhy
Dempsey /= Rohan

Now they might have come on and be the better option, I'm certainly optimistic for some of them, but it still hasn't happened yet.

Exactement.

 

[catempire]

For me at the moment:

B: Z.Guthrie De Koning Tuohy
HB: Stewart J.Henry Holmes
C: Duncan Bowes Blicavs
HF: Close Cameron Miers
F: Stengle Hawkins O.Henry
R: Stanley Dangerfield Atkins
Int: O’Connor O’Sullivan Bruhn Rohan*

*If not, Dempsey.

 

[FootyLad0]

Based on post Match Sim for our upcoming Preseason game

B: Zuthrie SDK Bowes
HB: Stewart J.Henry Holmes
C: Clark Blicavs Duncan
HF: Close Cameron Miers
F: Stengle Hawkins O.Henry
R: Stanley Dangerfield Atkins
Int: Conway O’Sullivan Bruhn Dempsey
EMG: MOC, 2E, Knevitt, Mannagh (extended 8 man bench means these 4 will play PRESEASON)
Inj: Cuthrie and Rohan
OMITTED: Mullin (i'm sorry but i don't see it, he needs seasoning in the VFL)