List Mgmt. 2025 AFL Draft

[RossFC]

Thanks to Lore for the draft tracker.

 

[Sleezy]

Drafting 3 players to the main list is still a rule right?

All three can be rookie upgrades as far as I know. And we do have an overload of rookies.

 

[Coobk001]

Drafting 3 players to the main list is still a rule right?

Rookie list upgrades are considered within the 3 if clubs want them.

The selections dont happen on the night amymore, but the club would announce before hand if they were going to use 2-3 on upgrades and would be left with that many picks as a result.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

While the likes of Robey and Taylor have worked their way into draft night one calculations, they’re still considered by AFL clubs a level below this year’s top draft prospects.
Most AFL club sources surveyed by foxfooty.com.au this week suggested a gap between the top six prospects and the rest of the draft pool had opened up.

Four of those players are already club-tied: Gold Coast academy duo Zeke Uwland and Dylan Patterson, Brisbane academy midfielder Daniel Annable and Carlton father-son prospect Harry Dean. Annable’s post-champs form for Brisbane’s VFL side has been particularly striking, averaging 25 disposals across an impressive five-game stretch.
The other two players are Calder Cannons forward-ruck Cooper Duff-Tytler and Gippsland Power utility Willem Duursma, who’ve only enhanced their standing in the pool since the champs.

Inside Oliver-like rise of 2025s biggest bolter; top six emerges ahead of combine — Draft Watch

Inside rise of biggest bolter as clubs blown away; Eagles plan as top six emerges — Draft Watch

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[davesnothere]

Port “considering different options to lessen its 2025 draft hand“


We just want nothing to do with this draft by the sounds of things, multiple rookie upgrades.

 

[philthy05]

The assumption from that ^ is we might not want any picks on this draft, which may be true ..

.. but it also might mean we will take players in this draft but are happy to wait until the end of the draft if we don’t see value in picking higher versus picking later + whatever we gain by trading picks back.

Ie, go to draft with picks 24,42 , 60 or , trade 24 and 42 out for picks for next year and draft with picks 60, 88, 97. Knowing that those picks will come in many spots on draft night anyway


I can see the logic behind doing such a thing.

 

[Long live PAFC]

The assumption from that ^ is we might not want any picks on this draft, which may be true ..

.. but it also might mean we will take players in this draft but are happy to wait until the end of the draft if we don’t see value in picking higher versus picking later + whatever we gain by trading picks back.

Ie, go to draft with picks 24,42 , 60 or , trade 24 and 42 out for picks for next year and draft with picks 60, 88, 97. Knowing that those picks will come in many spots on draft night anyway


I can see the logic behind doing such a thing.

Say we take Brodie, Wehr, Fiorini - leaves three spots. If we upgrade three, still have some list space available so may use it to trial a few players over summer.

 

[PJ Power]

Say we take Brodie, Wehr, Fiorini - leaves three spots. If we upgrade three, still have some list space available so may use it to trial a few players over summer.

Surely, there’s one player we can take with our second round pick who would be an upgrade on Anasta.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Surely, there’s one player we can take with our second round pick who would be an upgrade on Anasta.

This weird hive mind built around "this draft is shit" seems to take hold and suddenly nobody in it is any good.

Was there sun spot activity in 2007 (or whatever year) that destroyed all babies' football ability? Of course not. As others here have said, there may not be super-outstanding talents but it's even outside the genuine top group.

We could surely nail a decent pick in the second round. Make up for Tom McCallum.

 

[VineValerian]

Surely, there’s one player we can take with our second round pick who would be an upgrade on Anasta.

Yeah.
Was wondering if Serong or Hustwaite could be prised out of Hawthorn?
Motlop perhaps?
Davies at GC?

Not sure if Oodshorn-Bennier, Jevan P, Sumner-Pickett or others from SA will still be around at our pick or not?

 

[rogerjames]

Get it rolling.

25 likely types a year out. Midfield Strength and Key Defenders our likely priority

25 in 2025: A look ahead to next year’s top prospects

With the 2024 AFL Draft in the books, it is time to look forward to next year's crop. We highlight 25 prospects to watch in 2025.

central.rookieme.com

Lets hope so

 

[rogerjames]

This weird hive mind built around "this draft is shit" seems to take hold and suddenly nobody in it is any good.

Was there sun spot activity in 2007 (or whatever year) that destroyed all babies' football ability? Of course not. As others here have said, there may not be super-outstanding talents but it's even outside the genuine top group.

We could surely nail a decent pick in the second round. Make up for Tom McCallum.

What a crap pick he was & it was so obvious early on. Sometimes I wonder about the ability of our talent spotters to identify talent.

 

[rogerjames]

I would not take McKinnon he’s only 190cm and no athleticism it would not translate to AFL. He’s a beast against boys but he wouldn’t grow to be a beast in the AFL

That sounds like a Port pick then. Imo if they are that height or shorter then they need to move well otherwise 100% skip.

 

[rogerjames]

If we decide to pick up a couple of fathers sons this year I don't have a problem with that.
But we still need to find a lock down defender is honestly believe that's our biggest hole right now

Agree its our number one priority particularly with the move of Bergman to midfield. Then a quick, hard working defensive midfielder as Drew isn't going to get any better now & Mead will never be good enuf. I'm really hoping Logan Evans can recapture that early defensive form he had but it is hope.

 

[rogerjames]

As long as the AFL doesn't screw all the teams over with changes to the F/S, NGA and Northern Academy bidding and Port enticing Butters to stay beyond 2026 and see the future with Cochrane hopefully getting his NGA status approved followed by the draft bounty in 2027 with Pilot, Salopek, Rodan and Tambe and potentially Burgoyne.

Unfortunately this is beyond optimistic imo

 

[PatientMental]

This weird hive mind built around "this draft is shit" seems to take hold and suddenly nobody in it is any good.

Was there sun spot activity in 2007 (or whatever year) that destroyed all babies' football ability? Of course not. As others here have said, there may not be super-outstanding talents but it's even outside the genuine top group.

We could surely nail a decent pick in the second round. Make up for Tom McCallum.

I'm guessing the 'this draft is shit' is really just 'all the good ones we would actually want to target are already assigned to teams / would cost way too much to be worth the effort'

Draft isn't apparently deep, but all we have is deep picks = 'our hand is shit so the draft for us is a shit one'

 

[rogerjames]

The issue is that there's rarely anyone at u18 who plays that sacrificial role of being a small lockdown defender. That role is typically developed once players get to AFL clubs.

For me, Sinn is that player for us. But tbh this is also why I've been adamant that Burgoyne should play at HB. His defensive instincts and positioning are top notch and I'm not sure his flourishing on the wing

Agree. Build Burgoyne up & put him back in defense where he plays his best footy.

 

[rogerjames]

I think Rozee could be an elite HBF, Nas levels of elite. I'd be mainly playing him there with the occasional change up into the midfield or up forward to throw the opposition off. Similar to how Choco used Wangas

Agree re HBF but we also need an agile goal scorer. All these wasted picks on short, unathletic forwards with little goal sense. Joe Richards is ok but he's just ok. Rioli is going to be a big loss despite his issues which were many. At least Rioli had genuine talent & goal sense.

 

[longdonkey]

Agree re HBF but we also need an agile goal scorer. All these wasted picks on short, unathletic forwards with lityle goal sense. Joe Richards is ok but he's just ok. Rioli is going to be a big loss despite his issues which were many. At least Rioli had genuine talent & goal sense.

I've got a real issue with goal sneak forwards. I don't like them because they are generally one trick ponies. I want my small forwards to be like Robbie Gray who is a top line midfielder as well. Or Brett Ebert who was a lead up small forward as well as a crumbing forward.

Rioli was very good at what he did well but he had plenty of limitations as well. I don't think he'll be as difficult to replace as you think. But he will be if we look for exactly the same type of player.

 

[240volt]

Watson is a one trick pony but it’s a trick I could watch over and over.
You don’t kick enough goals you don’t win and we haven’t got the goal kicking firepower to be a serious challenge

 

[longdonkey]

Watson is a one trick pony but it’s a trick I could watch over and over.
You don’t kick enough goals you don’t win and we haven’t got the goal kicking firepower to be a serious challenge

Kicking goals is the essential part, I don't have an issue with that. But for the last 13 years there has been no system other than kick it to Charlie and hopefully someone can kick a goal out of their arse. Which is Rioli's specialty play.

I hate Watson. Very skillful but would barely touch the ball if he played for Wet Toast or Norf.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

Watson is a one trick pony but it’s a trick I could watch over and over.
You don’t kick enough goals you don’t win and we haven’t got the goal kicking firepower to be a serious challenge

Whenever Rioli was out, our general forwards without him looked bottom tier.

 

[longdonkey]

Whenever Rioli was out, our general forwards without him looked bottom tier.

One is an AA defender, one was playing country footy a few years back and the other is a bog average SANFL mid asked to chase around defenders of course they are bottom tier.

 

[240volt]

Kicking goals is the essential part, I don't have an issue with that. But for the last 13 years there has been no system other than kick it to Charlie and hopefully someone can kick a goal out of their arse. Which is Rioli's specialty play.

I hate Watson. Very skillful but would barely touch the ball if he played for Wet Toast or Norf.

I hate Watson also but he’s part of a successful forward line that has many goal kicking options.
From memory they had around 12 different goal kickers from the GWS game.
Add that to the way Gunston has played in the finals and it’s the real deal.
This is what we need to get to one day to be serious.

 

[Addy23]

Yeah.
Was wondering if Serong or Hustwaite could be prised out of Hawthorn?
Motlop perhaps?
Davies at GC?

Not sure if Oodshorn-Bennier, Jevan P, Sumner-Pickett or others from SA will still be around at our pick or not?

BOB and LSP will definitely be there at pick 24 imo

 

[Macca19]

Yeah.
Was wondering if Serong or Hustwaite could be prised out of Hawthorn?
Motlop perhaps?
Davies at GC?

Not sure if Oodshorn-Bennier, Jevan P, Sumner-Pickett or others from SA will still be around at our pick or not?

Both Serong and HH wont be at Hawthorn next year. A number of clubs sniffing around both