To make it “fair”, just give all clubs the same type of academies. It’s the only way.
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To make it “fair”, just give all clubs the same type of academies. It’s the only way.
Elixuh
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I’d gladly allow any club to run a northern academy.
So that then favours clubs who have the ability to potentially produce multiple players that fit into those categories because they have a far far larger pool of players to work with.
They might not get all of them but they will get some.
As opposed to clubs who might have one every few years if they are lucky and might end up with 0.
Cool, so we will have two. Nice.
A no strings academy in Victoria, and one up there as well.
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With the draft points required to match bids increasing to a point where it'd be almost impossible to get multiple picks in the same year without pre-planning for years in advance, surely we're going to see some exceptions made for Tassie when they enter the league. You couldn't possibly ask Tasmania to build a list under those circumstances when a significant portion of their initial list build will come from their own academy. Surely the AFL gives them 3-5 years to build their list without handcuffing them to these restrictions.
Elixuh
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Why do you need an academy in Victoria? You already have an NGA academy.
Can we have one with the same rules as the Northern ones?
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I think something like 3 top 20 matches allowed in 10 years. 1 of those you can use 3 picks to match, the other couple only 2 allowed.
Let's see what AFL comes up with. I believe they talk about only 2 picks allowed for match for top teams and more points required for top 5 picks. Details should be released soon.
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Reckon they will just let them pre list academy players
Elixuh
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Why do you need one? ~60% of the talent in the AFL already comes from Victoria.
For how long?
Why do Brisbane need one?
QLD might need one to help the game, but it shouldn’t benefit a club.
If it’s just about getting talent into the AFL, then give up your rights to them and we can all just run academies for the benefit of the game and not our own clubs.
Elixuh
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If we don’t have to fund and resource the academy as we are currently, sure.
Deal, but if it turns out you do get to fund and resource an academy, then everyone, every club, should get to fund and resource their own as well, with the same rules as each other.
Elixuh
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There is a much different business case for the academies up North where there is otherwise no elite talent pathway and prior to the academy Qld for instance was producing next to no talent.
Whereas ~60% of talent already comes from Victoria.
Your business case is the NGAs.
LukeParkerno1
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You can still live trade so long as you have the list spots, it's not hard really, this luckily will a mostly a thing of the past after the new rules come in.
I’ve got no problem with the academies being used for growing talent and the game in general, the wider the net we can cast as a competition the better the game is going to be for it IMO. And clearly there are athletes in all parts of Australia.
The problem is clubs (any club) benefitting from that, which has nothing to do with time or resources put in. Every club has time and resources. Some just aren’t allowed to use theirs with the same benefit.
Elixuh
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Hawthorn would be using the equivalent funding we put into academies into our premiership program.
No one cared we had an academy when we were bad. Why was that?
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LukeParkerno1
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I do assume though you are 100% onboard with giving up some of the obvious advantages Melbourne clubs get though? Lets start with the amount of games at the stadium where the GF is held...I mean we were putrid okay Bris smoked us but our last match at the MCG was April or something last year...
Then we have what is basically a home grand final if you make it.
The AFL can't get a perfect solution for everyone. It is clear the matching points should be HARDER, but priority access needs to stay that's a non negotiable cyt that off you kill the northern clubs and their ability to retain, academies might as well be a rip IF you did that. What needs to occur is the less double dipping and that's across the board whether it be an NGA, F/S or academy. One rule for all.
100% all clubs (like Sydney) should play more games at the MCG.
Not going to hear any arguments from me on that.
That’s why GC won’t win a flag IMO. They just won’t get that exposure to large crowds at the MCG and then will have to do it one day and fall flat.
It is already this year (as I understand).
LukeParkerno1
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Every club should play a game at the G in the last 10 rounds no exceptions. That includes your WB, Geelong, Saints etc
I don’t think the academy has much to do with your premiership success over the past two seasons if thats where you think I’m coming from.
You’ve drafted and traded well, are well coached, and a couple of FS playing elite footy helps (not everyone has good genes!).
I’ve said this for many years, the academies need to be made even. As for how that affects the growth of the game and the engagement of talent and how to combat that I don’t know the answer. But academies should not benefit clubs differently to to each other.
Agree. One at a minimum.
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