All Divisions General NFNL Discussion Thread

[NFNL Member]

Yep, heard that

Fair enough. I just heard the coach is headed down the hill.

 

[10571z]

Updated

D1 -
Boro - TBC
West Preston - TBC

D2 -
Whittlesea - Gary Ramsey
Thomastown - TBC
Northcote - TBC
Lower Plenty - TBC

D3 -
West Heidelberg - TBC
Lalor - Lance Whittnall
Kinglake - TBC

 

[Denny Crane]

Local and country footy salary caps revealed for 2024​

Local footy clubs across the state will have more cash to spend next season with salary caps changing for 2024. See what can be spent in every league.

Local footy clubs will be able to spend more money on players next season but some metropolitan clubs are still lagging behind their country counterparts.
AFL Victoria has confirmed salary caps at local level for next season at the same time the game’s governing body bolsters its resources to limit overspending.

Clubs in the top divisions of the Eastern, Essendon District, Northern, Southern and Western Region leagues will all be able to spend up to a proposed $120,000 next year, a rise of $10,000 from 2023.

It’s still below Goulburn Valley and Ovens and Murray clubs who have the most to spend with their respective caps to rise by $5000 to $130,000.

The Outer East league’s Premier Division has a proposed cap of $115,000, up $10,000 on this season.

Meanwhile, the Riddell District league has been given a rise of $20,000 up to $105,000.

“Every club can expect to be held to the same standards across the state,” AFL Victoria community football manager John O’Donohue said.

“We’re putting in an integrity program, which means every club will be checked with compliance at the start of the year and the teams that make grand finals will be checked at the end of the year.

“Others can also be picked up at any stage throughout the year for a check.”

AFL Victoria has been working with former AFL salary cap cop Ken Wood on the changes that will include the appointment of an integrity leader to oversee the salary cap and bolstering personnel to carry out compliance checks and reviews.

Metro salary caps​

LEAGUE AND DIVISION	PROPOSED 2024 CAP	2023 CAP
ESSENDON DISTRICT PREMIER DIVISION	$120,000	$110,000
EDFL DIVISION 1	$107,900	$100,000
EDFL DIVISION 2	$83,300	$77,000
EASTERN PREMIER DIVISION	$120,000	$110,000
EFNL DIVISION 1	$100,000	$93,500
EFNL DIVISION 2	$80,000	$77,000
EFNL DIVISION 3	$70,000
EFNL DIVISION 4	$60,000
NORTHERN DIVISION 1	$120,000	$110,000
NFNL DIVISION 2	$95,000	$88,000
NFNL DIVISION 3	$72,000	$66,000
OUTER EAST PREMIER DIVISION	$115,000	$105,000
OE DIVISION 1	$100,000	$90,000
OE DIVISION 2	$75,000	$75,000
RIDDEL DISTRICT	$105,000	$85,000
SOUTHERN DIVISION 1	$120,000	$110,000
SFNL DIVISION 2	$88,000	$80,000
SFNL DIVISION 3	$40,000	$40,000
SFNL DIVISION 4	$30,000
WESTERN REGION DIVISION 1	$120,000	$110,000
WRFL DIVISION 2	$88,000	$80,000
WRFL DIVISION 3	$50,000	$50,000

Country salary caps​

LEAGUE	2024 CAP	2023 CAP
Bellarine Football Netball League	$80,000	$80,000
Colac District Football Netball League	$60,000	$60,000
Geelong Football Netball League	$100,000	$100,000
Geelong and District Football League	$70,000	$70,000
Central Murray Football Netball League	$105,000-135,000	$105,000-$135,000
Golden Rivers Football League	$ 95,000-115,000	$95,000-$115,000
Bendigo Football League	$125,000	$125,000
Heathcote District Football League	$106,600	$106,600
Loddon Valley Football League	$106,600	$106,600
North Central Football League	$106,600	$106,600
East Gippsland Football Netball League	$75,000	$65,000
Ellinbank & District Football League	$75,000	$65,000
Gippsland Football League	$125,000	$120,000
Mid Gippsland Football League	$75,000	$65,000
North Gippsland Football Netball League	$75,000	$65,000
Omeo District Football League	$30,000	$30,000
West Gippsland Football Netball Competition	$100,000	$100,000
Ballarat Football Netball League	$100,000-110,000	$100,000
Central Highlands Football League	$90,000-95,000	$85,000
Maryborough Castlemaine District Football League	$80,000-85,000	$75,000
Goulburn Valley Football League	$130,000	$125,000
Kyabram District Football League	$75,000	$75,000
Murray Football League	$105,000	$100,000
Picola and District Football Netball League	N/A	$95,000
Ovens & Murray Football League	$130,000	$125,000
Ovens & King Football League	$55,000	$50,000
Tallangatta & District Football League	$72,500	$65,000
Upper Murray Football Netball League	$37,500	$35,000
MPNFL Div 1	$120,000	$100,000-$110,000
MPNFL Div 2	$100,000-110,000	$90,000-$95,000
Millewa Football League	$42,000-47,500	$40,000-$45,000
Sunraysia Football Netball League	$105,000-126,000	$110,000-$120,000
Hampden Football Netball League	$120,000	$104,500
Mininera and District Football League	$75,000	$70,000
South West District Football Netball League	$75,000	$66,500
Warrnambool & District Football Netball League	$80,000	$66,500
Wimmera Football Netball League	$108,000-118,000	$105,000-$112,000
Horsham District Football League	$88,000-105,000	$80,000 - $104,000

 

[nosecondprize]

Cap means nothing. You can go over or under as much as you like.

The points is the only way to try and even out the comps. But that doesn't seem to work either. Did I read there Was a change in points aswell?

 

[Denny Crane]

Player points article from AFL Website:

PLAYER POINTS SYSTEM FOR VIC COMMUNITY FOOTBALL UPDATED FOR 2024​

AFL Victoria has updated the Player Points System (PPS) and will bolster its support for community football clubs and leagues, following a review conducted in conjunction with the Community Club Sustainability Program (CCSP) Advisory Group on rules regarding player payments and points allocations.

Having consulted stakeholders from across community football and gathered feedback from metropolitan and country leagues and clubs, the modifications take into consideration the various pathways players take across the state that lead to senior community football and the challenges faced by clubs.

An assessment of player pathways identified that after seven seasons, the policy needed to be reviewed to make it easier for clubs and leagues to attract one-point players, where the player pathway has previously made it prohibitive. The review determined that the system requires localised solutions which are best managed at the metropolitan league or country region level.

Where the player pathway from junior to senior football in an area or region can restrict clubs being able to access one-point players, a metropolitan league or regional body may now adopt By Law clauses which create a clearer player pathway between junior and senior clubs. All By Laws clauses must be approved by AFL Victoria following endorsement by the CCSP Advisory Panel, with the definition of the one-point category variable depending on local conditions.

The adoption of specific league or region By Laws is not compulsory nor automatic and it is not expected that all leagues or regions will seek to deviate from the current policy interpretations.

The inclusions of any By Law conditions are not retrospective and will only apply from the 2024 season.

AFL Victoria have also established a CCSP Integrity Program which will support the delivery of the CCSP at club, metropolitan league and country region level. CCSP toolkits for clubs, leagues and regions will guide and simplify the processes, provide links to key documents and establish important dates throughout the year for the management of the CCSP.

The Integrity Program will provide a level of administrative capacity from a CCSP Integrity Team with Accredited Integrity Compliance Coordinators and Accredited Integrity Officers to help community football stakeholders, ensure consistency across the program and mitigate risks.

The CCSP Integrity Program team will include:

• An Integrity Lead to oversee the program
• AFL Victoria to manage the CCSP Policy and the CCSP Advisory Group
• Accredited Integrity Compliance Coordinators to provide CCSP compliance checks and support
• Accredited Integrity Officers who shall conduct CCSP APP Integrity Reviews

The implementation of structured practices and protocols for clubs, leagues and regions will be managed by trained and accredited individuals who, working as part of a broader team, will support community football bodies in the management and integrity of the CCSP.

For competing 2024 Grand Finalists and as deemed necessary, integrity reviews of clubs will be conducted by the Integrity Team under the guidance and support of the AFL Victoria Integrity Lead.

 

[kickthething]

Player points article from AFL Website:

PLAYER POINTS SYSTEM FOR VIC COMMUNITY FOOTBALL UPDATED FOR 2024​

AFL Victoria has updated the Player Points System (PPS) and will bolster its support for community football clubs and leagues, following a review conducted in conjunction with the Community Club Sustainability Program (CCSP) Advisory Group on rules regarding player payments and points allocations.

Having consulted stakeholders from across community football and gathered feedback from metropolitan and country leagues and clubs, the modifications take into consideration the various pathways players take across the state that lead to senior community football and the challenges faced by clubs.

An assessment of player pathways identified that after seven seasons, the policy needed to be reviewed to make it easier for clubs and leagues to attract one-point players, where the player pathway has previously made it prohibitive. The review determined that the system requires localised solutions which are best managed at the metropolitan league or country region level.

Where the player pathway from junior to senior football in an area or region can restrict clubs being able to access one-point players, a metropolitan league or regional body may now adopt By Law clauses which create a clearer player pathway between junior and senior clubs. All By Laws clauses must be approved by AFL Victoria following endorsement by the CCSP Advisory Panel, with the definition of the one-point category variable depending on local conditions.

The adoption of specific league or region By Laws is not compulsory nor automatic and it is not expected that all leagues or regions will seek to deviate from the current policy interpretations.

The inclusions of any By Law conditions are not retrospective and will only apply from the 2024 season.

AFL Victoria have also established a CCSP Integrity Program which will support the delivery of the CCSP at club, metropolitan league and country region level. CCSP toolkits for clubs, leagues and regions will guide and simplify the processes, provide links to key documents and establish important dates throughout the year for the management of the CCSP.

The Integrity Program will provide a level of administrative capacity from a CCSP Integrity Team with Accredited Integrity Compliance Coordinators and Accredited Integrity Officers to help community football stakeholders, ensure consistency across the program and mitigate risks.

The CCSP Integrity Program team will include:

• An Integrity Lead to oversee the program
• AFL Victoria to manage the CCSP Policy and the CCSP Advisory Group
• Accredited Integrity Compliance Coordinators to provide CCSP compliance checks and support
• Accredited Integrity Officers who shall conduct CCSP APP Integrity Reviews

The implementation of structured practices and protocols for clubs, leagues and regions will be managed by trained and accredited individuals who, working as part of a broader team, will support community football bodies in the management and integrity of the CCSP.

For competing 2024 Grand Finalists and as deemed necessary, integrity reviews of clubs will be conducted by the Integrity Team under the guidance and support of the AFL Victoria Integrity Lead.

Long article to say nothing.

 

[Denny Crane]

Long article to say nothing.

Not really, it does say that leagues can have their own policy on looking after clubs without juniors so they can have more points.

Could be a dangerous policy that some won't agree with but for say teams like Lalor and Reservior we have to at least try and say give em 55 points to get teams on the park, not saying permanently but can be year by year say?

 

[kickthething]

Not really, it does say that leagues can have their own policy on looking after clubs without juniors so they can have more points.

Could be a dangerous policy that some won't agree with but for say teams like Lalor and Reservior we have to at least try and say give em 55 points to get teams on the park, not saying permanently but can be year by year say?

Its what I was referring I guess, all those words to explain something that could have been much more efficiently communicated, for example, your response is almost all that was needed!!!

I agree with the intent here, of course, you will hear the whining. Will be interesting how they classify no juniors.

 

[nosecondprize]

Not really, it does say that leagues can have their own policy on looking after clubs without juniors so they can have more points.

Could be a dangerous policy that some won't agree with but for say teams like Lalor and Reservior we have to at least try and say give em 55 points to get teams on the park, not saying permanently but can be year by year say?

Very Dangerous to give the league the power over points.

 

[NFNL Member]

AFL Vic in their wisdom have decided on MoU's.
Senior Clubs can only have one MoU and Junior Clubs can only have one MoU.

 

[10571z]

AFL Vic in their wisdom have decided on MoU's.
Senior Clubs can only have one MoU and Junior Clubs can only have one MoU.

Who is Yarrambat choosing? Will be a massive coup for whoever secured it.

 

[NFNL Member]

Who is Yarrambat choosing? Will be a massive coup for whoever secured it

who would know but very good question, will be a big decision for that club, i think Bundoora, North Heid, Hurstbridge all have mou's with them.
And the future of the Senior clubs not chosen by these Junior only clubs hangs in the balance. If they cannot secure an MoU with a Junior club then what is their future?
Lalor?

 

[MortlockWatcher]

There might be a few deals put on the table to serenade these junior-only clubs.
There could be a lot to gain for them and a lot to lose for the senior clubs..

 

[10571z]

who would know but very good question, will be a big decision for that club, i think Bundoora, North Heid, Hurstbridge all have mou's with them.
And the future of the Senior clubs not chosen by these Junior only clubs hangs in the balance. If they cannot secure an MoU with a Junior club then what is their future?
Lalor?

At the end of the day 19s dont have points and after 2 years they kids are 1 pointers regardless. But getting them to your club is a lot easier with a MOU.

Agreed with the above, some huge offers will be put to Yarrambat. They have 5 MOUs atm.

 

[NFNL Member]

At the end of the day 19s dont have points and after 2 years they kids are 1 pointers regardless. But getting them to your club is a lot easier with a MOU.

Agreed with the above, some huge offers will be put to Yarrambat. They have 5 MOUs atm.

Gees, who are the other clubs??
How will that work do you think? Senior Clubs offering these junior clubs $$???

 

[MortlockWatcher]

I have always wondered why they never started up senior teams themselves given they have had junior teams for many years now.

 

[10571z]

Gees, who are the other clubs??
How will that work do you think? Senior Clubs offering these junior clubs $$???

Bundoora
Panton hill
North Heidelberg
Old Eltham
Hurstbridge

I have always wondered why they never started up senior teams themselves given they have had junior teams for many years now.

Yep, no brainer I would have thought!

 

[MortlockWatcher]

Bundoora
Panton hill
North Heidelberg
Old Eltham
Hurstbridge

The Yarrambat president's phone is going to run red hot over the next few days arranging meetings.

 

[bertybeetle]

With clubs like ivanhoe and old paradians having thirds in the vafa is there any potential for another 6 teams to have enough crop to have a thirds type set up for overflow of 19s/reserves players within a club or is it too unrealistic?

 

[Champ or Chump]

With clubs like ivanhoe and old paradians having thirds in the vafa is there any potential for another 6 teams to have enough crop to have a thirds type set up for overflow of 19s/reserves players within a club or is it too unrealistic?

Our experience last year was that 3 x open age teams was difficult to fill every week. We had to forfeit the Res on one occasion.

In the VAFA multiple teams at the 'powerful' clubs keeps them strong and the other clubs continue to struggle as no 'trickle down' to lower grade football. As a competition, I would suggest the NFNL not go down that pathway.

Chump

 

[laverton_nuffy]

I have always wondered why they never started up senior teams themselves given they have had junior teams for many years now.

I remember playing at yarrambat when the visitors rooms were a tin shed with a dirt floor and the ground was nothing but a cow paddock

And I’m only going back to the 90’s

 

[laverton_nuffy]

The Yarrambat president's phone is going to run red hot over the next few days arranging meetings.

I had hirstbridge were the club they’d gone with

Massive considering hurstbridhe have no juniors

 

[NFNL Member]

I had hirstbridge were the club they’d gone with

Massive considering hurstbridhe have no juniors

Hurstbridge do have Juniors, only a few teams though. i think maybe 3/4 teams.
But if correct it is massive for their their senior club.

 

[hfchfc]

Hurstbridge do have Juniors, only a few teams though. i think maybe 3/4 teams.
But if correct it is massive for their their senior club.

It is correct, massive for Hursty for the future

 

[10571z]

Hurstbridge do have Juniors, only a few teams though. i think maybe 3/4 teams.
But if correct it is massive for their their senior club.

Their juniors will be gone now (due to MOU rules of 1 MOU per club)