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The way we are using immigration is a certainly a Ponzi Scheme & it doesnt matter what version of politics is in power.
How else can we keep spending more than we produce ?
Productivity, dont go there ......
Its a capitalist thing this Ponzi Scheme is it? See todays spending by the Feds, not a capitalist in sight.
Face it, a Ponzi Scheme is criminal - there are people in gaol for it.
Yep its a Ponzi Scheme & today Albo & Dr Chalmers are top of the tree, no different to Morrison & Frydo in their time.
Probably to keep repayments at a more manageable level.
Maybe I'm over-simplifying this... Surely the government should only need to contribute the difference between the amount a prospective home-buyer has saved and 20% of the purchase price (which would mean they meet the criteria for no LMI)?
Why does the government need to take between 30%-40% of the total value of the property? Couldn't the contribution be lowered so that the program could support more people?
What do you think would happen to certain industries, such as nursing or aged care, if you slashed immigration by half?I'm a leftist and I think the immigration rate is ridiculously high.
You need a certain level of immigration to offset the ageing population. But admitting a thousand people a day into the driest inhabited continent, with some of the least affordable housing in the world, is excessive.
If they slashed immigration by half or two thirds, that would instantly go a long way to addressing the horrible mismatch of housing supply and demand. This isn't about blaming brown people. I don't give a s**t about the colour of the skin of a person coming to Australia. If you have one household in your country, build one extra dwelling but have two households immigrate, you won't have enough dwellings. I also believe government needs to dramatically ramp up public, not social, housing. I get that you might need immigrants to build the houses, but surely you don't need this many.
Australia needs to work for the people who already live here - it's not a * ing hotel. People are living on the streets. This is an emergency, and I sure as hell don't see an emergency response.
What do you think would happen to certain industries, such as nursing or aged care, if you slashed immigration by half?
So immigration levels can never be discussed? That is somewhat limiting.I'd prefer you to discuss the real issues that cause the problem instead of blaming immigration
They would be fine as they would be priorities within our immigration program, we would slash unskilled migration and do monthly reviews of the job categories to ensure they are actually gaps that we can't fill with our own training.What do you think would happen to certain industries, such as nursing or aged care, if you slashed immigration by half?
One can be selective about where reductions occur.What do you think would happen to certain industries, such as nursing or aged care, if you slashed immigration by half?
As with everything the Liberal Party doesn't like, the immigration department has been cut to bare bones.One can be selective about where reductions occur.
It is also relevant that some may not stay if family reunion doesn’t happen - I think the department needs to do a better and faster job of processing acceptance or refusal of application (heard it can be up to 50 years!)
People have talked about the reality of why we have immigration in here and also why politicians use it as the problem.So immigration levels can never be discussed? That is somewhat limiting.
Or people have not read through the entire thread perhapsPeople have talked about the reality of why we have immigration in here and also why politicians use it as the problem.
There's nothing wrong with that.
But someone running with it's the damn immigrants can get in the bin.
We've also had the conversation before about the "record immigration levels" myth so when posters go back to that well and ignore everything else it's just dog whistling
What do you think would happen to certain industries, such as nursing or aged care, if you slashed immigration by half?
People have talked about the reality of why we have immigration in here and also why politicians use it as the problem.
There's nothing wrong with that.
But someone running with it's the damn immigrants can get in the bin.
We've also had the conversation before about the "record immigration levels" myth so when posters go back to that well and ignore everything else it's just dog whistling
training is a throwaway line in this context.Those industries would be forced to hire and train locals rather than crying poor to the federal government of the day and scabbing workers from other countries. They would also be forced to pay decent wages.
Or people have not read through the entire thread perhaps
I think you are very quick to conclude dog whistling.
edit also the other contributing issues do not have a relatively quick solution to be applied for their component, while the immigration lever is easier to apply. It will not fix the housing situation on its own, but excessive non productive immigration can exacerbate housing issues.
Don't ask the question , do the math.
training is a throwaway line in this context.
Good news for sick and old people in five to 10 years, less so for the ones neglected in the present because there would not be enough staff.Those industries would be forced to hire and train locals rather than crying poor to the federal government of the day and scabbing workers from other countries. They would also be forced to pay decent wages.
I read the initial poster as querying the level rather tag a querying it at all (ie the dog whistle implication). Maybe I am a Pollyanna type about regular postersMate, it is dog whistling. That's the problem.
Next time someone blames immigration for something, dig a little deeper into their understanding of labour economics. 99% of them have no understanding of how immigration contributes to the economy. The same people who complain about immigration are the first to whinge about high prices and a lack of services. It's one thing to query why immigration levels are as they are, which is what I think you are doing. But the overwhelming majority of people who query immigration levels are not actually querying immigration levels at all, if you get my drift.
Such people should be summarily dismissed and ridiculed for their ignorance.
Training can include methods of encouraging people into university degrees.
A nursing degree includes training and a qualification.
Good news for sick and old people in five to 10 years, less so for the ones neglected in the present because there would not be enough staff.