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I prefer the model of taking on broken down ex Pick 1’s and career C-graders and paying them half a mil per year.
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Cripps, weitering, Pretevski senton and both curnows isn't a bad core of players to work withPatrick Cripps is more valuable then the entire current Hawthorn playing list combined, and I defy anyone to prove otherwise.
Cripps, weitering, Pretevski senton and both curnows isn't a bad core of players to work with
I am glad to hear you are happy with Carlton picking up Jack Martin mateI prefer the model of taking on broken down ex Pick 1’s and career C-graders and paying them half a mil per year.
I am glad to hear you are happy with Carlton picking up Jack Martin mate
I agree with that, just a little bit funny after the original comment you made.Absolutely - fills an need immediate need, and we also managed to nab the greatest small forward of all time to mentor him for a year and help fast track his development.
Very nice acquisition.
Absolutely - fills an need immediate need, and we also managed to nab the greatest small forward of all time to mentor him for a year and help fast track his development.
Very nice acquisition.
I reckon 5 pages at least before anyone rises to the challenge, if at all.
is that proof the ‘youf’ agenda is so much fake
This thread is about ten years too late.
I’d hazard a guess most believe in building a decent core through the draft and then supplementing through trades and free agency, trying to land a big fish ala Tom Lynch (hopefully Tim Kelly too) along the way.
Does any team realistically turn their back on trading, provided players want to join them?
belief, but never backed up with argument
What do you mean justify it? What am I justifying, its a simple matrix to understand.And yet you declined my invitation to justify it rather than just 'feels'. Lions and GWS have achieved what exactly?
And yet you declined my invitation to justify it rather than just 'feels'. Lions and GWS have achieved what exactly?
Was about to post something similar until I saw this. I’d have gone line and length but you went full and clean bowled the thread.What do you mean justify it? What am I justifying, its a simple matrix to understand.
Winning and older = good
Winning and young = better
Losing and young = bad but sometimes understandable
Losing and older = worse and in need of a rebuild.
In any scenario of comparable performance it is better to be younger than older. Performance trumps all, but with comparable performance younger is better.
Cotchin, Martin, Rance and Riewoldt were the driving forces of the Tigers 2017 premiership.Premiership teams are invariably older
see anyone can just repeat
You are implying a rebuild is required. For most of the history of afl, the rebuild concept did not exist, it was there for a while as a theory which was followed to varying success, and is now being discredited.
it’s just some of you are taking longer to catch on
It’s infesting most threads in bigfooty. Team x will be better ‘because youf’
Players older than 30 being a liability. Observations now see 29 or even 28 year old players getting disrespected in posting.
Yet it’s just given as a reason without, frankly, much to back it up.
consider:
- Most premiership teams are in the top five oldest teams in that year
- Older teams have more success in the following three years than younger teams
- Lists are half a year older on average then the period before 2010
It's very simple.
Winning and older = good
Winning and young = better
Losing and young = bad but sometimes understandable
Losing and older = worse and in need of a rebuild.
There is no doubt that given expected development and upside, it is better in both scenarios to be a younger team than an older team, although winning games/finals/flags regardless is just as good as an older team provided you capitalise on the period. Youth also gives teams an acceptable hall pass on losing too as that might be their development stage. See teams like the young Lions in finals of 2019 or early GWS days.
You'd always take an equivalent performing younger side over an older one, supporters just need to figure out where their club sits in the above matrix. Id say right now Richmind are in the winning/older camp.
Read the next two paragraphs of my post.....why ? when older teams outperform younger teams for each of the following 7 years at least ?
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Youve just put numbers in a table without telling me what they represent? Are they a ladder position average or something?why ? when older teams outperform younger teams for each of the following 7 years at least ?
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I havent once disputed that. I think youre trying to counter something other than my actual response.Premiership teams are invariably older