Rumour Bluemour File *rumours only - NO DISCUSSION*

Discussion in 'Carlton' started by The Old Dark Navy's, Jan 1, 2015.

Put it out there
  1. Rarely Rong

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    Still unsure if this is good or bad news but a cfc staffer's comment below

    "Don't think Kelly will get here".

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  2. Aphrodite

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  3. GordonBlue

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    I actually have a rumour and it's from a really strong source "Don't see Kelly happening"
     
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    Apparently "Kelly won't be missed one bit" if he does leave. Inside word from playing list....



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  6. Aphrodite

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    Lever - Gibbs - Stringer
    3 way trade
     
  9. bluegrass

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    (Not much new here sorry) - a Carlton staffer I know expressed doubt at the Kelly thing (thought he may have already signed) and said he wasn't sure about B.Gibbs - thought he'd go if the right money/picks were offered. :footy:
     
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  11. walga

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    Im not one to post on here. Much more a reader so take this as you may.

    Information from an ex Carlton player who now resides in Adelaide. The Gibbs deal was all done last year intil Ricuitto came in at the last minute and put a stop to it. This obviously upset Gibbs and he now has stated he would rather go back and play for Glenelg than the Crows.


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  14. Jeremias

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    http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...t/news-story/fcdc5afc9a38f1103c05265bf584cca5

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  15. The Old Dark Navy's

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  16. Betty_Blue76

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    Proposal is:

    1. Carlton trade Bryce Gibbs to Crows for the pick they get for Lever (must be below 12). Most likely Dees pick 10.

    Why? - best we will get and the view is Bryce asking to leave again and coming back isn't good for the group. Also part of a wider deal. Problem is if Pies get Lever for pick 6 Crows won't want to give this up without something back. However, we believe Lever wants the Dees.

    2. Carlton acquire Rockliff for 2 years at $2m with an option for a third year at $400k. Because the option is conditional the AFL bases compensation on a guaranteed two years - so $1m per year figure. This triggers band 1 compensation for the Lions so they get pick 2. Other suitors are offering Rockliff max $700k, which is not enough to trigger band 1.

    3. Carlton trades pick 3, pick 10 (or thereabouts - Crows been told must be pick below 12) from Bryce Gibbs and our third round pick for pick 1, pick 18 and Schache. Lions may also be interested in a player such as Byrne to sweeten the deal.

    Why do this trade - helps with Kelly (will explain below), plus gets Rockliff in for support and gets Schache at a discount. Schache is viewed as suffering from being away from family and the belief is he can become a 40+ goal a year FF in Victoria. Lions don't want Rayner but the Suns rate him so won't slip to us at 3. GWS want him and want pick 1 to make sure they get him. Lions value Dow more highly so going from pick 1 to 2 is fine by them. Effectively swapping Schache and 18 for pick 10 and 38. Lions rate the top 10 highly so believe they can add another good mid at 10 (plus have Ports pick - view is 3 good mids to add to the mix).

    We will not get Lynch from Gold Coast next year. He will most likely sign with them depending on the new coach and how things look in June next year. Pies have tabled a $1.5m 5 year deal and his family are massive Pie fans but looks more likely to stay at GC. Will not play for Carlton forget it. So we see Schache as a hedge against McKay not coming on. The bank is at least one of those two will become a gun.

    4. Carlton trade pick 1 and pick 18 for Kelly, Kennedy and a salary dump.

    Why? GWS wants Rayner and will only let Kelly go if they are guaranteed Rayner. They value pick 1 very highly. Kelly wants us the only spanner is a large offer from Essendon, but very likely to knock this back. Our whole strategy hinges on Kelly going to us. We believe this is 75% likely. The salary dump is a huge issue for GWS and they need the cap relief.

    NET RESULT -

    Out: pick 3, Gibbs, pick 38

    In: Kelly, Rockliff, Kennedy, Schache

    The age composition of our mids is lowered with Kelly/Kennedy and Rockliff a similar age to Gibbs. Schache is valuable insurance for a KPF.

    We don't have a pick this year until the fourth round but will take 3 picks at the end of the draft and get some delisted free agents. With the investment in the last two drafts and the desire to trade heavily into the 2018 draft with 2019 picks, we don't see this as a huge issue. There is also scope for the Suns to offer up 2nd/3rd round picks for players.

    This is the desired blueprint for the Blues and what SOS believes is realistic. There are other options (Stringer for 2018 2nd but dogs likely to say no even if we take a salary dump) and embracing trading Gibbs plus some others for top 40 picks.
     
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    Saw a rumour elsewhere, Cunningham has re-signed for a further two years.
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    Also read Simpson to be offered another year, Boekhurst will need to wait til after trade week.

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    Bolton and SOS had meeting with Rockliff last week.
     
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    Speaking to someone involved at PAFC, apparently Bryce Gibbs has told his manager to do whatever it takes to get back to SA. Dont know if that means that he is willing to go to PAFC


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