Buddy or Deledio

[LuKe2428]

who do u think will be better??

 

[sante]

 

[DynamoUltra]

Even got pick 1 wrong, let alone 4.

 

[dutchy12]

Buddy IMO has reached his potential and will have a succesfull career whislt Delidio just has more of an x factor to his game so I will go with the later

 

[Richo83]

Deledio will improve much more. Remember he's still a kid trying to find his feet, he's had an up and down start to his career.

Thing is, I'd take buddy over most if not any young player so lids isn't really disgraced. Better than Cooney, Murphey, Griffen, Pendlebury, McLeam etc.

 

[Philhawk]

Yes, at the ripe old age of 20, Buddy has little room for improvement and has 'reached his potential'.

Did I mention that he's also a key position player? Clearly they develop faster than midfielders.

 

[HBK619]

Lids has the potential to be a 20-30 disposal, 2-3 goal per game sort of player, and with the devastating effect of his disposal it is more than likely through those disposals he would create another 5-6 goals.

Buddy is a Forward but not much else, he wont go back or in the middle so will more than likely have to be molded to become a lead up CHF, in the type of Brown, Riewoldt or Pavlich, only with a bit less versatility.

That being said they are both the same age and have tons of improvement to go, unless Buddy slips up off field...again.

 

[mitchzz]

Buddy.

 

[Metallica_Man]

Buddy by about as much as Geelong won the flag...

 

[Flashhh]

Lance Franklin. Surprised a Richmond supporter started it. Thought it was a Hawk tryna be smart.

But yeh seriously Franklin is better than most, if not all, youngsters out there.

 

[hendo8888]

how bout a richmond fan come back with whos better boyle or Foley
it would be just as relevant

 

[MinerBoy]

Yes, at the ripe old age of 20, Buddy has little room for improvement and has 'reached his potential'.

Did I mention that he's also a key position player? Clearly they develop faster than midfielders.

Not to mention that Lids won the rising star and yet has stagnated a little since. It seems Buddy has shown a greater ability to take his game up a notch as their careers progress.

 

[one_twelve112]

Buddy easily....but thanks for the laugh.

 

[HBK619]

Not to mention that Lids won the rising star and yet has stagnated a little since. It seems Buddy has shown a greater ability to take his game up a notch as their careers progress.

How has Deledio stagnated, it is all a media beat up that Deledio hasn't done much, he had about 3-4 poor games this year, most likely the same or less than Buddy.

The fact is when Deledio gets the ball he is creating around 3-4 goals with his sublime disposal and smarts, all Buddy is doing is the opposite, he is receiving the sublime disposal and getting the goals, but Deledio will still end up with 1-2 goals as well as helping create 3-4.

 

[mattdwyer]

if deledio was playing in a succesfull team and buddy was playing for a bottom team then would people's opinion's be any different ?? just wondering .. ordinary players can look pretty good in a succesfull team .. perfect example Cameron Ling !! ...

 

[Jeremias]

Buddy by that much that it's not even a joke.

Richmond made 2 mistakes that early in the draft. Buddy is the best player to come out of that draft by a very long way. Of course, they're still happy with Richie "pulled a heart string" Tambo.

 

[mulhollanddrive]

Sometimes the most insignificant things bring us great insight into how the human mind works.

 

[Metallica_Man]

if deledio was playing in a succesfull team and buddy was playing for a bottom team then would people's opinion's be any different ?? just wondering .. ordinary players can look pretty good in a succesfull team .. perfect example Cameron Ling !! ...

People can look and sound like idiots when they don't watch very much footy...perfect example is YOU!

 

[HBK619]

Buddy by that much that it's not even a joke.

Richmond made 2 mistakes that early in the draft. Buddy is the best player to come out of that draft by a very long way. Of course, they're still happy with Richie "pulled a heart string" Tambo.

So you are saying that 3 years ago you were picketing for Franklin to be pick No.1, anyway you will find out what it is like to have players taken after the No.1 pick turn into far better players than that taken with No.1.

Cotchin>>>Kreuzer.

 

[BABYBOMBERS2007]

Who are the stupid people voting for Deledio?

Franklin=star
Deledio=average at best

Stupid, stupid thread. Franklin is sooooooo far ahead of Deledio.

Of course a stupid Richmond supporter created this thread.

 

[Simon_Nesbit]

Surely it's a Hawthorn troll in disguise?

Franklin @ 20 = performance equivalent or better to Pavlich, Brown, Riewoldt, etc at same age.

Deledio @ 20 = anywhere near the top 5? Didn't think so.

 

[Palmer Stoat]

Jeez, I can't believe the vote is this close. Must be more Richmond supporters on this site than I thought.

 

[Silvagnis]

Even got pick 1 wrong, let alone 4.

I guess this means the Hawks stuffed up when they picked Roughead ahead of Griffen.

Roughead is a good player but he isn't in Griffen's class.

You would have drafted Deledio if you had pick one.

The Hawks anted to draft Tambling at four if my serves me.

Yes, at the ripe old age of 20, Buddy has little room for improvement and has 'reached his potential'.

And Deledio has reached his potential?

Deledio's match winning game against Collingwood when he kicked five goals playing forward and scored two Brownlow votes was as exciting as Franklin's best. Deledio is a freak and a gun, Richmond didn't stuff anything up because they drafted a 200 game player and a match winner.

Hawthorn fans need to keep their fingers crossed that Franklin keeps his feet on the ground.

I've never heard of any other young footballers who have been given chaperones to keep them out of trouble.

We know Deledio isn't immature.

Did I mention that he's also a key position player? Clearly they develop faster than midfielders.

If only it was that easy and every player developed at the same rate.

Ryder has developed faster than Ellis and Dowler and is playing in a key position in his second year.

Maybe you stuffed up?

 

[Philhawk]

I guess this means the Hawks stuffed up when they picked Roughead ahead of Griffen.

Yeh, 40 goals for a 20 year old key position player is really stuffing up.

Roughead is a good player but he isn't in Griffen's class.

Your opinion, but most Hawk fans wouldn't trade Roughie for Griffen.

You would have drafted Deledio if you had pick one.

Your point? Hawthorn didn't tank unlike 'some' other teams - and despite that, were still able to pick up three of the best players in that draft.

The Hawks anted to draft Tambling at four if my serves me.

And Deledio has reached his potential?

Did anyone said he had? You're going in circles.

Deledio's match winning game against Collingwood when he kicked five goals playing forward and scored two Brownlow votes was as exciting as Franklin's best. Deledio is a freak and a gun, Richmond didn't stuff anything up because they drafted a 200 game player and a match winner.

Are you trying to get somewhere with your argument? Noone said he didn't have talent.

The fact is he doesn't have the consistency of many other players in the same draft as him.

I think you'll find 99% of AFL fans would take a 7-goal match-winning performance in a final vs a 5 goal 'once in a blue-moon' performance.

Hawthorn fans need to keep their fingers crossed that Franklin keeps his feet on the ground.

Last time I checked, there was nothing to suggest that peoples 'concern' about Franklin is different to the concern fans have for any other twenty year old.

I've never heard of any other young footballers who have been given chaperones to keep them out of trouble.

Maybe they should? Maybe Fevola wouldn't be such a nuisance off the field if he did have a chaperone.

We know Deledio isn't immature.

Good on him. So was Mark Bolton. Lets hope the comparison ends there.

If only it was that easy and every player developed at the same rate.

Er, again you're moving in circles.

It's been fairly obvious to note over the years that key position players develop slower than midfielders. The fact that Franklin has exploded onto the scene alot faster than Deledio suggests a much larger scope for improvement given the kind of player he is.

Ryder has developed faster than Ellis and Dowler and is playing in a key position in his second year.

Er, what does that have to do with this thread? Again, most Hawk fans are happy with the drafting of both Ellis and Dowler.

Maybe you stuffed up?

Maybe we did, but our mistake would be no greater than drafting Gibbs before Selwood or Kennedy before Pendlebury.

 

[Richo83]

Philhawk, as a mod I'm sure you're well versed on what makes a good player and what doesn't, and what young players should be doing and developing.

At 20 years of age and after only 3 yrs, Deledio is progressing quite well. Remember last year, people had the same issues with Cooney, yet he has developed quite well this year and IMO will develop into a dangerous player.

Franklin does look more impressive than Deledio I'll give you that, but that doesn't mean that Deledio wont become something nor is he a failed pick. IMO Deledio will play 200 games, he will become an elite midfielder comparable to Peter Burgoyne and he will shake the dud pick claims. All IMO but Deledio will become what he should be. This season he has struggled with consistency but a lot 3rd year midfielders do, it's not unusual.