Play Nice Bye bye Brad

[Wild Bill]

Yeah, I know I support the club mainly for player retention.

Players stay and join our club because of Scott.

 

[Wild Bill]

They have an interesting way of showing it.

Yeah they won 2 finals just inspite of Scott. That showed him he is not wanted.

 

[Phillyroo]

Yeah, I know I support the club mainly for player retention.

Are you intentionally being infuriating?? He didn't say that player retention was the be all and end all. Just that we have been good at it.

 

[Only Forwards]

He was clearly referring to recruiting and retaining players.

They lost the best forward in the league.

They won the flag the next year.

They're widely considered the favourite for the flag this year.

We signed a couple of blokes who have shifted us marginally closer to a flag.

We also signed up a bloke until 2017, who we apparently no longer want.

Not all that shimmers is gold.

 

[Only Forwards]

Keeping our best players. Even the mighty Hawks fall short.

I'm sure their flag will keep them warm when the coldness of Buddy leaving kicks in.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Yeah they won 2 finals just inspite of Scott. That showed him he is not wanted.

I was more referring to the fairly regular ten goal beltings, the complacency and poor quarters every week and the infuriating inconsistency.

 

[Wild Bill]

They lost the best forward in the league.

They won the flag the next year.

They're widely considered the favourite for the flag this year.

We signed a couple of blokes who have shifted us marginally closer to a flag.

We also signed up a bloke until 2017, who we apparently no longer want.

Not all that shimmers is gold.

Swap Clarkson and Scott and we would be on the way to a 3 peat?

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Players stay and join our club because of Scott.

You're probably doing the rest of the coaching and development staff a bit of a disservice there.

Regardless, the end goal is the win flags. Until we improve in a number of key areas, player retention and free agency isn't going to get us there.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Swap Clarkson and Scott and we would be on the way to a 3 peat?

 

[Wild Bill]

I was more referring to the fairly regular ten goal beltings, the complacency and poor quarters every week and the infuriating inconsistency.

We have just won 5 in a row.

Dam Scott and those inconsistant complacent players. It's so regular that we won 5 regular games in a row.

 

[Only Forwards]

Swap Clarkson and Scott and we would be on the way to a 3 peat?

I think we'd be more consistent and closer to a flag.

You don't believe we have the cattle for that, I believe the idea of not having the cattle is frogshit.

 

[Only Forwards]

We have just won 5 in a row.

Dam Scott and those inconsistant complacent players. It's so regular that we won 5 regular games in a row.

We lost to 18th by 10 goals.

 

[Wild Bill]

You're probably doing the rest of the coaching and development staff a bit of a disservice there.

Regardless, the end goal is the win flags. Until we improve in a number of key areas, player retention and free agency isn't going to get us there.

Riiighhtttttt - everything good is the other coaches and development staff - everything bad is Scott's fault.

 

[naturally north]

What a crap post.

Insightful Spider, IMO Brad Scott is full of shit and there's plenty around lapping it up. Time as they say will tell, happy to be made look a fool if I'm wrong. But finishing in the bottom end of the eight isn't a celebration especially with the aging list we have.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Riiighhtttttt - everything good is the other coaches and development staff - everything bad is Scott's fault.

Well no, that's not what I said at all.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

We have just won 5 in a row.

Dam Scott and those inconsistant complacent players. It's so regular that we won 5 regular games in a row.

Geelong was a good win. The other four wins were against bottom five sides - obviously you still have to win them and we have done so, but given we were 6-7 going into this run of easier fixtures, we're still not a guarantee of playing finals.

Even within this run of wins has been the propensity to switch off or drop intensity (2nd against Brisbane, 2nd against Carlton, 2nd and 3rd against Melbourne, 1st half against *Essendon). This has been happening throughout Scott's tenure, which suggests players don't take the right mindset into games/quarters.

But please, continue to reduce the debate to cherry-picking stats and spitting out cliches. All the most insightful posts in this thread have gone unanswered by yourself, Phillyroo and kelman anyway.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Geelong was a good win. The other four wins were against bottom five sides - obviously you still have to win them and we have done so, but given we were 6-7 going into this run of easier fixtures, we're still not a guarantee of playing finals.

Even within this run of wins has been the propensity to switch off or drop intensity (2nd against Brisbane, 2nd against Carlton, 2nd and 3rd against Melbourne, 1st half against *Essendon). This has been happening throughout Scott's tenure, which suggests players don't take the right mindset into games/quarters.

But please, continue to reduce the debate to cherry-picking stats and spitting out cliches. All the most insightful posts in this thread have gone unanswered by yourself, Phillyroo and kelman anyway.

I want to be as optimistic as Wild Bill and philly, I really do, but how can anyone (even those blinded by love, as I am partially) deny the problem of total drop-offs in quarters. We get away with it against below average sides - because we do have the cattle - but above average sides take advantage of the drop-offs and beat us. We are likely to make the finals now, but God help us if we turn off for a quarter in finals. This is why people remain skeptical of the coach, in all these years he's failed to make us a 4 quarter team. He and other insiders have, to their credit, put together a very good list - one that would appear capable to go all the way if we could stop the mental lapses. But we have proven, as recently as last week, that we are powerless to stop the mental lapses.

 

[blackshadow]

Looking at the game here in Hobart is painful. Sorry Wild Bills Scott has to go.

 

[Horizons_00]

Brad has changed has he?

Still the same mentally weak team I've seen in the past 6 years

What a joke

 

[Reagan Smash]

He should of went after the collingwood debacle

 

[Ry009]

Cant stick tackles, poor disposal and decison making, happening way too often.

Top 4 team would put as away by 10 goals now.

 

[Northtobeunited]

Well if we get rid of scott who do we chase Clarkson won't come same for Longmire and Simpson and none of our Assistents are upto it if there were they be coaching a Leauge team somewhere else we need an outsider a Brendon Bolton a Stewart Dew type but knowing our club Scott will be there next year and same goes for the rest of the boys club

 

[Only Forwards]

We are mental giants sometimes.

Even if we dig ourselves out of the hole we're in currently in Tassie, the fact they're completely out playing us is just not good enough and it just happens too often.

We are mentally soft.

 

[Royal Flush]

Irrespective if we come back and win this game against the Saints, I dread the humiliation of finals footy.
Finals footy who ever we play will smash us of the ball park with our regular 2nd quarter fade outs.
If the players are struggling now with pressure with poor disposals then look out come September.

 

[IschenkoUBeauty]

Irrespective if we come back and win this game against the Saints, I dread the humiliation of finals footy.
Finals footy who ever we play will smash us of the ball park with our regular 2nd quarter fade outs.
If the players are struggling now with pressure with poor disposals then look out come September.

I don't know, I was quite a fan of the fade out in the first half of the Essendon final last year. Made the end result that much better.