Strategy Changes: Round 18 Freo vs Hawks

[s_wd6]

Hi folks. One of my opponents in a keeper league claims Andrew Brayshaw has suffered hamstring awareness. Is this true?

Would be bloody amazing if true. You know, with our incredible midfield and all that

 

[Rhufus]

HAHAHA! Complete opposite, he does one good thing and this board gets a hard on. Then they ignore his weekly holding the ball, lack of vision, poor decision making and skills because they still believe "he could be anything"

Nah he does way more than one good thing. He does about 15 good things and 10 bad things every match. The reason many of us are still so optimistic on Johnno is that his errors can easily be corrected.

Imagine if a coach actually said to him he wasnt allowed to break tackles and he had to give first option every time! That clanger count would go down from 10 to 2 overnight.

The real question is why hasnt he been given clear simple instructions to dispose the ball immediately?

 

[apuchar]

Nah he does way more than one good thing. He does about 15 good things and 10 bad things every match. The reason many of us are still so optimistic on Johnno is that his errors can easily be corrected.

Imagine if a coach actually said to him he wasnt allowed to break tackles and he had to give first option every time! That clanger count would go down from 10 to 2 overnight.

The real question is why hasnt he been given clear simple instructions to dispose the ball immediately?

10 clangers a game is a lot. I can't believe after 3 years of development at afl level he is still making that many errors. If they are easily fixed, why haven't they been. He has had plently of time and opportunity. His lack of urgency at times worries me the most though. His lack of defense and accountability for his man at the stoppage when in our back fifty is disturbing at times.

 

[s_wd6]

10 clangers a game is a lot. I can't believe after 3 years of development at afl level he is still making that many errors. If they are easily fixed, why haven't they been. He has had plently of time and opportunity. His lack of urgency at times worries me the most though. His lack of defense and accountability for his man at the stoppage when in our back fifty is disturbing at times.

It’s 3.5 btw. Same as Serong, JOM, Clark. Less than Bolton who goes at 4.2

 

[Docker82]

It’s 3.5 btw. Same as Serong, JOM, Clark. Less than Bolton who goes at 4.2

Don't think it's really a stat we can rely on tbh.

Players that try to attack and take riskier options will always make mistakes.

Unless we want everyone to play safe, hit only the easy targets, bomb to packs, shirk every contest to avoid giving up free kicks then clangers will always be registered. Take on that strategy all year and I have no doubt we win the spoon too.

 

[apuchar]

It’s 3.5 btw. Same as Serong, JOM, Clark. Less than Bolton who goes at 4.2

Yeah. He has improved in that area. He tends to get less of the ball than the others though so percentage may be more relevant. His defensive work is dropping off though. He may be starting to tire. Raz is fading as well.

 

[bushchook]

Would you not give Pav a call and get him down to the club purely to work on Amiss’ goalkicking?

If it was that easy nobody in the AFL would ever miss

 

[apuchar]

If it was that easy nobody in the AFL would ever miss

To go from Neveramiss to what is happening now is a bit extreme though.

 

[bushchook]

To go from Neveramiss to what is happening now is a bit extreme though.

Yes but it's not a matter of getting someone to explain the mechanics of kicking a ball. It's a mental thing.

 

[Feathercap]

Dockers write up for Peel which are never negative fired a shot at sharp:

Jeremy Sharp: Collected a team-high 29 disposals along with six marks and five tackles in his first-ever appearance for the Thunder since joining Fremantle. Provided valuable run but at times lacked connection with the forwards in his delivery.

 

[332docker]

Dockers write up for Peel which are never negative fired a shot at sharp:

Jeremy Sharp: Collected a team-high 29 disposals along with six marks and five tackles in his first-ever appearance for the Thunder since joining Fremantle. Provided valuable run but at times lacked connection with the forwards in his delivery.

that's why is out of the best 22

 

[thistimeforsure]

He makes the same mistakes, and it speaks to his awareness of his surroundings. A midfielder that gets caught HTB on a consistent basis will not have a long career in the AFL.

HTB’s can cost you a game in the D50 , in the midfield they aren’t a huge deal because as far as turnovers go they are usually very slow once you do your best drunken getting to your feet impression

High fan frustration but little game impact

 

[WhoneedsMcLeod]

Dudley only comes out for Switkowski.
Sharp for Erasmus
Walker for Banfield.

Watson this week then Elliott the week after. Walker has to play.

Walker manning up Elliott, that's hilarious.

 

[apuchar]

Yes but it's not a matter of getting someone to explain the mechanics of kicking a ball. It's a mental thing.

Most knowledgeable goal-kicking analysts think he goes too close to the man on the mark and lacks momentum in his run- up. The issue with that is he was kicking accurately using that method in his junior years so would be reluctant to change. Maybe trying a different system in the off season to see if it helps may be in order now as his kicking has been off for two or three seasons now. I've no doubt there is a mental component involved , especially with the pressure of expectation, but that probably started when he started missing regularly as much as anything.

 

[bushchook]

at times lacked

Most knowledgeable goal-kicking analysts think he goes too close to the man on the mark and lacks momentum in his run- up.

He wasn't doing this in his first season though, it's lack of confidence that's caused him to start doing it.

 

[apuchar]

He wasn't doing this in his first season though, it's lack of confidence that's caused him to start doing it.

He has always done that.

 

[malpaso]

Yeah. He has improved in that area. He tends to get less of the ball than the others though so percentage may be more relevant. His defensive work is dropping off though. He may be starting to tire. Raz is fading as well.

Raz never rose...

 

[malpaso]

that's why is out of the best 22

Then everyone would be out. He's out because he lacks the ability to play inside and we are desperate for help in stoppages.

 

[toto95]

that's why is out of the best 22

I think this is an issue that isn't actually being talked about enough - too many players seem to be playing for themselves. Even despite this being Sharps first time playing Peel, it speaks to this wider problem of players being concerned about individual effort and failing to connect as a team.

 

[Midnite65]

Dudley only comes out for Switkowski.
Sharp for Erasmus
Walker for Banfield.

Watson this week then Elliott the week after. Walker has to play.

Walker gives Johnson a run for his money with HTB's

 

[malpaso]

Walker gives Johnson a run for his money with HTB's

Chapman as well.

 

[malpaso]

Walker gives Johnson a run for his money with HTB's

There is no such thing as prior opportunity anymore which doesn't help.

 

[Farrand]

There is no such thing as prior opportunity anymore which doesn't help.

Never seen anything like it in the 30 years I've watched football. As soon as a player has the ball and been tackled it's getting called htb. Basically touch football at this point.

 

[Alfonz]

Most knowledgeable goal-kicking analysts think he goes too close to the man on the mark and lacks momentum in his run- up. The issue with that is he was kicking accurately using that method in his junior years so would be reluctant to change. Maybe trying a different system in the off season to see if it helps may be in order now as his kicking has been off for two or three seasons now. I've no doubt there is a mental component involved , especially with the pressure of expectation, but that probably started when he started missing regularly as much as anything.

I don't care what the analysts said, they were mostly Victorian commentators who had no idea he was an accurate kick as a junior. He should never have changed what appeared a strange routine. At least for under 40 metres. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. He kicked 51.15 in his last year of colts. Then 41.17 in his first proper year of AFL. Stuffing this up to gain extra distance is a monumental error.

There was a set shot in one of our recent home games ... I forget which one exactly ... where he actually kicked a snap shot (and missed), whereas it would have been a drop punt from a tight angle a few years ago. He has obviously changed how he goes about kicking for goal and it has clearly been a big mistake.

And the issue is not just the goal kicking, it flows on to him being a bit more timid in demanding the ball as well, as he doesn't have faith in his ability to kick the goal. Fyfe has suffered from this in recent years as well.

It amazes (and annoys) me watching Dangerfield ... who is a pretty good chance to completely spray shots on goal wide ... strut around with 100% confidence in his own ability to kick straight.

 

[JammoMonty]

Midfield is shallow without Young, no doubt. We need to either magically recruit a B grade 28 year old mature body in the next year or two or hope at least two of Johnson, Noddy and Ras make the step up. We also just aren't structuring up right because even without Young - Jackson, Darcy, Bolton, Serong and Brayshaw should be halving midfield battles at worse but it seems teams are 75% of the way to a win just by shutting out the two amigos.

Ive made it known I've always doubted playing all 5 KPPs from the centre forward is going to work. Strike 1 against a good team, let's see how it goes against Hawks (if they stick with it). This is made worse but having only one actual small running defender. I dont think any of them are doing anything wrong but while we stopped the silly idea of also playing 3 tall KPDs, we need Cooper back badly because 4 mediums in Ryan, Banfield, Worner and Chappy is also one too tall I think.

I hope the silly ideas from earlier in the season about Switta being over rated are finally in the bin. With Dudley where he's at, that forward pressure is dire.

It all comes back to the middle though, teams have figured us out in there compare to the season where we dominated clearance.

All I’m hearing is you want Will Brodie to return.