Changes v Cats

[Kane McGoodwin]

We have only 2 games left, so IMO Parker must play to make up our minds as to whether he is worth upgrading. Would also give Ladhams the last 2 games as his last chance to stay on his list as his form for North warrants selection.

Both Mattner & Bock are struggling for form, so I would return them back to the SANFL. they have both done enough to stay on out list for next year.

3 ruckmen is 1 too many, so Biglands is the least deserving at this stage tp stay in the side.

B: Begley, Rutten, Bassett
HB: Doughty, Parker, Goodwin
C: Burton, Ricciuto, Reilly
HF: McLeod, Perrie, Johncock
F: Hentschel, Welsh, Edwards
R: Clarke, Stenglein, Ladhams
I: Hudson, S Stevens, Jericho, Shirley

IN: Parker, Begley, Ladhams
OUT: Biglands, Bock, Mattner

 

[Stiffy_18]

OUT: Bock

I would be VERY surprised if he was dropped. He was better today than he was last week or 2 weeks ago. Sure he made some mistakes but you don't drop him after his best game for a while

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I would be VERY surprised if he was dropped. He was better today than he was last week or 2 weeks ago. Sure he made some mistakes but you don't drop him after his best game for a while

If that's one of his better games, then we may as well delist him now!
IMO, Bock has been given a more than generous go & time to try some others out.

 

[Bockchoy67]

I thought Bock was alright today, not bad enough to warrant an omission but not good enough to be an automatic selection.

Mattner had a bad day, but he's had a pretty consistent year so he shouldn't be dropped.

Beggers should probably have one more game for Sturt, then play against Port.

Therefore, I think Biglands should be the only omission. Today clearly showed we can't afford to have 3 ruckman, as it slows us down and none of them (except maybe Hudson) are any good in a KP.

It won't happen, but bring in Parker for Biglands.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I thought Bock was alright today, not bad enough to warrant an omission but not good enough to be an automatic selection.

IMO, his defending was deadset ordinary. Shultz looked like a matchwinner early until Rutten was moved on to him. If Bock is to stay in the side, it must be as a flanker as he is not strong enough for a KPP,

Mattner had a bad day, but he's had a pretty consistent year so he shouldn't be dropped.

Beggers should probably have one more game for Sturt, then play against Port.

Mattner has gone off the boil in about the last 3 games, though you are probably right that Begley could do with another game with Sturt.

Therefore, I think Biglands should be the only omission. Today clearly showed we can't afford to have 3 ruckman, as it slows us down and none of them (except maybe Hudson) are any good in a KP.

It won't happen, but bring in Parker for Biglands.

When will AFC learn that none of our current ruckmen are decent KPP's!

 

[Bockchoy67]

When will AFC learn that none of our current ruckmen are decent KPP's!

Not too soon, by the looks of it.

And you are pretty much correct about Bock. He can not play KP anytime soon, as he does not have the strength.

However, his run from defence (around the flanks in particular) was both surprising and effective, so I agree with the Clubs spontaneous decision to play him in defence. A flank position would definitely suit his current body shape and mobility.

He should be considered for the team next week, that and that only. He is definitely no certainty.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

IMO, his defending was deadset ordinary. Shultz looked like a matchwinner early until Rutten was moved on to him. If Bock is to stay in the side, it must be as a flanker as he is not strong enough for a KPP,

The TV commentators said that Rutten was moved of Richo and Bock onto him as a rotation, due to Richos supurb aerobic fitness.

Don't think it had anything to do with how Shultz was playing?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Depending on form, would also like to get Watts in for another couple of games b4 years end.

Unless of course they want him to play in the SANFL finals, in which case I think any qualified players can't play the last AFL game.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

And you are pretty much correct about Bock. He can not play KP anytime soon, as he does not have the strength.

However, his run from defence (around the flanks in particular) was both surprising and effective, so I agree with the Clubs spontaneous decision to play him in defence. A flank position would definitely suit his current body shape and mobility.

Looks as if he could play a similar role to Wellman for Essendon?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

The TV commentators said that Rutten was moved of Richo and Bock onto him as a rotation, due to Richos supurb aerobic fitness.

Don't think it had anything to do with how Shultz was playing?

I must have been watching a different game, as IMO, Shultz was clearly more damaging than Richo in the 1st quarter.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I must have been watching a different game, as IMO, Shultz was clearly more damaging than Richo in the 1st quarter.

Kane just repeating the comment made by channel 9 commentators

 

[macca23]

Kane just repeating the comment made by channel 9 commentators

Looks like Kane watches a bit more closely than the Channel 9 boys. Schultz was giving Bock the run-around, hence the switch with Rutten.

I thought Bock bounced back okay after getting cleaned up early.

 

[Fall Out Boy]

Depending on form, would also like to get Watts in for another couple of games b4 years end.

Pardon the intrusion.

If i were the Crows coaching staff, i wouldn't want to bring Fergus back in against Geelong, where he is likely to get a run on Scarlett, at some stage.

Obviously it would be a great learning curve for him to play on someone like Scarlett, but if thrashed, it could really damage him mentally.

From a Geelong perspective, we'll have to make two changes. One probably will be losing Bartel through suspension, and Gumby Mooney through injury.

We're pretty hard hit by injuries at the minute (guys like Kelly, Enright, Moloney, Spriggs and Rooke, amongst others), and will really struggle to find a midfield replacement for Bartel.

 

[-WWJD-]

I must have been watching a different game, as IMO, Shultz was clearly more damaging than Richo in the 1st quarter.

Exactly. Richo got a bit of the ball in the first, but wasn't at all damaging. Got it up on the flanks and did ******** all with it.

ETA: Agree on the Watts issue. Perrie was very good against the Cats last year and Scotty Stevens kicked a couple against them this year. Wouldn't bring in young Fergus.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Looks like Kane watches a bit more closely than the Channel 9 boys. Schultz was giving Bock the run-around, hence the switch with Rutten.

I thought Bock bounced back okay after getting cleaned up early.

Richo was getting his kicks/marks up the field & was not as damaging as when Bock was on Schultz, as he was in goal-kicking range. I was actually hoping that S Stevens would be given a go as a key defender at some stage today.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Pardon the intrusion.

If i were the Crows coaching staff, i wouldn't want to bring Fergus back in against Geelong, where he is likely to get a run on Scarlett, at some stage.

Obviously it would be a great learning curve for him to play on someone like Scarlett, but if thrashed, it could really damage him mentally.

From a Geelong perspective, we'll have to make two changes. One probably will be losing Bartel through suspension, and Gumby Mooney through injury.

We're pretty hard hit by injuries at the minute (guys like Kelly, Enright, Moloney, Spriggs and Rooke, amongst others), and will really struggle to find a midfield replacement for Bartel.

Anytime Phaty.

Both Bartel & Mooney will be big losses as both have had impressive years ... though they are not alone, so I would expect the Cats to still win with a better alround team performance.

Agree with your comments on Watts. IMO, he has already had a taste of AFL & would be better served playing for the Eagles & putting in a big pre-season.

 

[Stiffy_18]

The TV commentators said that Rutten was moved of Richo and Bock onto him as a rotation, due to Richos supurb aerobic fitness.

Don't think it had anything to do with how Shultz was playing?

I saw it differently. Richo started at FF and Schulz at CHF. Later on Tigers switched the 2 and we left our defenders in their positions. Thats the way I saw it anyway. Richo was playing further out in the 2nd and 3rd quarters and he had Bock on him. When he was closer to goal Rutten picked him up.

 

[Fall Out Boy]

I would expect the Cats to still win with a better alround team performance.

I'm known for being a tad pessimistic, but i'm genuinely worried about losing this game.

Despite our great run of form, we still haven't managed a win interstate (got very close to Port (4 points), Sydney (3 points), WC (2 points) ), whilst we are due for a downer after tough games in recent weeks.

 

[DaveW]

A 1 point win for the home side would nicely complete that trend.

 

[Skippy_14]

Parker in for Biggo, and Begley in for Mattner.

 

[macca23]

I'm known for being a tad pessimistic, but i'm genuinely worried about losing this game.

Despite our great run of form, we still haven't managed a win interstate (got very close to Port (4 points), Sydney (3 points), WC (2 points) ), whilst we are due for a downer after tough games in recent weeks.

They're pretty good efforts when you look at where those 3 teams are on the ladder.

We're not in the same class as those 3 teams, so you should go out a fairly warm favourite.

I think the biggest danger is that it has been a bit of a hoodoo ground for the Cats against the Crows. The Cats have only won once in 10 tries, and that was by 11 points in 2000.

Having said that, Geelong should still win.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Parker in for Biggo, and Begley in for Mattner.

Depends on McGregors availability?

 

[Blue Red and Gold]

Pardon the intrusion.

If i were the Crows coaching staff, i wouldn't want to bring Fergus back in against Geelong, where he is likely to get a run on Scarlett, at some stage.

Obviously it would be a great learning curve for him to play on someone like Scarlett, but if thrashed, it could really damage him mentally.

From a Geelong perspective, we'll have to make two changes. One probably will be losing Bartel through suspension, and Gumby Mooney through injury.

We're pretty hard hit by injuries at the minute (guys like Kelly, Enright, Moloney, Spriggs and Rooke, amongst others), and will really struggle to find a midfield replacement for Bartel.

It mighten be sucha bad thing if that happened though. Watts will always compete but he is not big or strong enough to be able to be a match winner. Scarlett is your best defender so if Watts was to get him that would open the door a little for hentschel and Welsh who IMO are much better forward options at the moment.
I would be suprised of Scarlett went to Watts if he played, Welsh would be a better option i would of thought.

 

[Fall Out Boy]

Scarlett will actually probably get a lesser forward like against Richmond.

We want to give Shaggy a rest, and also allow him to be a little more creative (he has had a shot at goal in each of the last three weeks), so we may look to play him at CHB against a lesser light, with Harley taking the key forward.

 

[Jars458]

Agree that Belgley and Parker should both get a run

We also need to use Reilly in the midfield. Craig admintted our second tier midfielders are nowhere in sight and if we keep using Roo Edwards Stinger and McLeod as our only rotations we will not develop any.

Stiff in the middle at some point would be good as well.

Begley can play half back and release either Reilly or Doughty to the wing.