Opinion Changes v giants

[Deadly Darcy]

I dont really care re. Schache.

Would suit a contending side with a proper functioning forward line and foil.

He has had his chances with us.

Seriously, bevo cannot keep gifting gowers chances. He is turnover/momentum killer king.

Didn’t Bevo basically insist we select Gowers which was one of the power plays that saw Dalrymple leave? I can’t see him backing down now even though it’s a blantant mistake....

The attempts at team selections I read in here make me more and more depressed. We simply don’t have the hard, determined players that replace Morris and Boyd down back with any of the players in our list at the moment. We are in trouble

 

[Dog 36]

I thought Bevo's response on Schache at today's presser was more a reaction to the question rather than a true appraisal.

There had been a whole heap of questions re specific players, then the Schache question came at the end of the presser.

I thought that it was more a snappy response at the reporter than a dig at Schache.

That is how I read it especially when he starts with "listed player" stating the obvious.

 

[Sharkey66]

Bevo said today - Schache has a bright future but just isn’t in the side at the moment. Wouldn’t be throwing him in the bin just yet. See where he’s at in 5-6 weeks. This post iso period has thrown up some weird things.

Not sure how to phrase this but with Dunkley comments early this week , I wonder if schache headspace is the reason he is not playing at the moment. Possibly taking a cautious approach with him.

 

[Anja_Nees]

Didn’t Bevo basically insist we select Gowers which was one of the power plays that saw Dalrymple leave? I can’t see him backing down now even though it’s a blantant mistake....

The attempts at team selections I read in here make me more and more depressed. We simply don’t have the hard, determined players that replace Morris and Boyd down back with any of the players in our list at the moment. We are in trouble

Being fair to Bevo, Gowers hadn’t had a look in since mid last season. If he was tearing it up on the track while others didn’t when players can’t back it was fair enough that he get a chance.

One bad game might even be forgivable, so I would understand if Bevo didn’t banish him off the back of last week. I suspect he’s actually more or less on his last chance to prove himself. It’s unfortunate - at times in 2018 he really looked the part but he has not gone on with it at all.

 

[Virgin Dog]

Gardner is reasonably quick? Yeah, just like Toby Greene is reasonably charming.

*Quick at training and VFL

Bit like how he's supposedly a good kick I guess. He shows these things on the training track, but come game day and he loses all his strengths and acts like a deer in headlights

 

[Del203211]

Not sure how to phrase this but with Dunkley comments early this week , I wonder if schache headspace is the reason he is not playing at the moment. Possibly taking a cautious approach with him.

what did he say?

 

[Yojimbo]

*Quick at training and VFL

Bit like how he's supposedly a good kick I guess. He shows these things on the training track, but come game day and he loses all his strengths and acts like a deer in headlights

Ryan Gardner is ranked numero uno for one percenters at the Bulldogs and = 8th in the AFL after two rounds.

Maybe Bevo is big on one percenters at least I hope he is because there is nothing else.

 

[SirBont]

Ryan Gardner is ranked numero uno for one percenters at the Bulldogs and = 8th in the AFL after two rounds.

Maybe Bevo is big on one percenters at least I hope he is because there is nothing else.

If Ryan Gardner plays again I would really tend to worry about Luke Beveridge been a coach

 

[Fossie 32]

If Ryan Gardner plays again I would really tend to worry about Luke Beveridge been a coach

Stand by....

 

[Yojimbo]

If Ryan Gardner plays again I would really tend to worry about Luke Beveridge been a coach

Being a coach, but never fret it's selection night, everything will be alright, eventually he will get it right, but if he keeps getting it
wrong, he will not be around for too long. (Sing it with me)

It's selection night,
Everything will be alright,
Eventually he will get it right,
But if he keeps getting it wrong,
He will not be around for too long.

(Except of course for the binding nature of his contract, which if paid out will send the club to the wall)

 

[Anja_Nees]

Ryan Gardner is ranked numero uno for one percenters at the Bulldogs and = 8th in the AFL after two rounds.

Maybe Bevo is big on one percenters at least I hope he is because there is nothing else.

Bevo also commented that he’s usually a good kick. He would know, but based on his recent games you would think he’s one of the worst in the side.

He commits some howlers skill wise, but you’re quite right. He does the things coaches value really highly, so they might forgive the rest on the expectation it improves with games.

He’s been ordinary offensively but he’s not the reason we’ve lost. It’s easy end to end goals and easy clearances that have murdered us this year.

 

[Mofra]

Bevo also commented that he’s usually a good kick. He would know, but based on his recent games you would think he’s one of the worst in the side.

He commits some howlers skill wise, but you’re quite right. He does the things coaches value really highly, so they might forgive the rest on the expectation it improves with games.

He’s been ordinary offensively but he’s not the reason we’ve lost. It’s easy end to end goals and easy clearances that have murdered us this year.

I'm getting strong Cam Wight vibes from Gardner. Puts it all together on the training track, spoils well but has 1-2 absolute howlers on gameday which is all he ever gets remembered for.

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

I'm getting strong Cam Wight vibes from Gardner. Puts it all together on the training track, spoils well but has 1-2 absolute howlers on gameday which is all he ever gets remembered for.

I think the things that Gardner does other than those howlers are also problematic. Some of his contest work or even his zoning last week left a lot to be desired. At one point I called him James Mulligan last week and I don't apply that label lightly.

 

[TommyD13]

Assuming Sweet probably wont play, as we would usually have a debutant announcement by now... probably means Trengove is a certain in

 

[Kermit]

Big Bazza Williams leading the b&f? Jet.


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Prob second to Bazza Smith currently

 

[Jeff 1975]

That’s a TALL and slow team lol! Not sure we need Schache then.

GWS are a tall side and if we go with less we again run the risk of mismatches
We simply can’t afford to give teams a 4 to 5 goal head start
I would rather lose tall than lose to mismatches
St Kilda killed us with overhead marks and mismatches
Interesting to see the teams when they come out and how tall GWS are
If GWS drop a tall I’ll compromise 1
It would be a good idea to collect stats on mismatches and goals, that’s one stat that does mean something

Go Dogs

 

[Yojimbo]

Bevo also commented that he’s usually a good kick. He would know, but based on his recent games you would think he’s one of the worst in the side.

He commits some howlers skill wise, but you’re quite right. He does the things coaches value really highly, so they might forgive the rest on the expectation it improves with games.

He’s been ordinary offensively but he’s not the reason we’ve lost. It’s easy end to end goals and easy clearances that have murdered us this year.

At best I am thinking a taller Dale Morris, I would not think Dale Morris would have been kicking down any doors selection
wise as he was fairly late to the game. Ryan Gardner is pretty similar hopefully he can have the reliability of Dale Morris
or the sudden improvement of a Joel Hamling, but time will tell.

 

[Dogs 13]

Ryan Gardner is ranked numero uno for one percenters at the Bulldogs and = 8th in the AFL after two rounds.

Maybe Bevo is big on one percenters at least I hope he is because there is nothing else.

It's the other 99% of his game that he struggles with

 

[Guido]

At best I am thinking a taller Dale Morris, I would not think Dale Morris would have been kicking down any doors selection
wise as he was fairly late to the game. Ryan Gardner is pretty similar hopefully he can have the reliability of Dale Morris
or the sudden improvement of a Joel Hamling, but time will tell.

Dale Morris, at a similar age to what Gardner is now, was shutting down Andrew McLeod in a midfield role in one of his first games.

From the moment he walked in he was demanding a spot based on some elite strengths and a work ethic that no-one at club, bar possibly Cross, matched. He had some obvious deficiencies, however he worked on them for hours per day (over and above training).

I'll admit i was weary of picking up Joel Hamling as good clubs rarely delist very good players. However similar to Morris, he was picked up reasonably young, doing very well at the next level down, had some elite attributes, and had many Geelong supporters totally perplexed as to why he never got a game. All of his early games with us showed heaps of promise.

What are Gardner's elite attributes? I don't know how the 1%er stat is worked out, but I could show you a dozen moments from the last two games where he's away from where he should be influencing/impacting the play. To me the lack of awareness is more troubling than the kicking/leg speed. Roberts was offloaded despite havimg a goid footy brain, being an excellent reader of the play and being an outstanding kick (though similar issues with leg speed).

 

[Yojimbo]

It's the other 99% of his game that he struggles with

Ever heard the saying "Every cloud has a silver lining" well I went looking for that silver lining and that is all I could find. He does
have dominant games against some of the biggest forward names in history Tom Boyd, Travis Cloke and Liam Jones, but on that
note I will show myself out.

 

[Dogsman16]

Dale Morris, at a similar age to what Gardner is now, was shutting down Andrew McLeod in a midfield role in one of his first games.

From the moment he walked in he was demanding a spot based on some elite strengths and a work ethic that no-one at club, bar possibly Cross, matched. He had some obvious deficiencies, however he worked on them for hours per day (over and above training).

I'll admit i was weary of picking up Joel Hamling as good clubs rarely delist very good players. However similar to Morris, he was picked up reasonably young, doing very well at the next level down, had some elite attributes, and had many Geelong supporters totally perplexed as to why he never got a game. All of his early games with us showed heaps of promise.

What are Gardner's elite attributes? I don't know how the 1%er stat is worked out, but I could show you a dozen moments from the last two games where he's away from where he should be influencing/impacting the play. To me the lack of awareness is more troubling than the kicking/leg speed. Roberts was offloaded despite havimg a goid footy brain, being an excellent reader of the play and being an outstanding kick (though similar issues with leg speed).

Jordan Roughead might be the slowest KPD in the game but has made up for it in other areas.

I highly value closing speed as a defender but you can cover one player who is slow if the setup is good. Having a dominant midfield who protects the defence helps too.

Gardners awareness is poor and combining that with his lack of speed he gets caught in no mans land too often. Roughead in comparison is a great positioner and has experience to cut angles.

 

[Charlie Bucket]

No debut/jumper presentation clip on our website today so I think we can put a strike through Sweets name for another week.

My predictions...

Out - Gardiner, Richards (inj), Dale/Gowers
In - Trenners, Libba, McLean

 

[Silky23]

Hey fellas,
Genuine question RE Bailey Smith.
Looking to bring him into my SC side but Bevo worries the hell outta me. Baz looks so good inside but then again so does Macca, Bont, Dunks, Libba etc.
Genuine question as to where you think Bevo may play him going forward. Only want him if he will continue the inside MID role. Libba coming in also scares me as he is very restricted to simply playing inside MID, so who gets pushed out? My guess is Baz but would love to hear your thoughts.

 

[Yojimbo]

Dale Morris, at a similar age to what Gardner is now, was shutting down Andrew McLeod in a midfield role in one of his first games.

From the moment he walked in he was demanding a spot based on some elite strengths and a work ethic that no-one at club, bar possibly Cross, matched. He had some obvious deficiencies, however he worked on them for hours per day (over and above training).

I'll admit i was weary of picking up Joel Hamling as good clubs rarely delist very good players. However similar to Morris, he was picked up reasonably young, doing very well at the next level down, had some elite attributes, and had many Geelong supporters totally perplexed as to why he never got a game. All of his early games with us showed heaps of promise.

What are Gardner's elite attributes? I don't know how the 1%er stat is worked out, but I could show you a dozen moments from the last two games where he's away from where he should be influencing/impacting the play. To me the lack of awareness is more troubling than the kicking/leg speed. Roberts was offloaded despite havimg a goid footy brain, being an excellent reader of the play and being an outstanding kick (though similar issues with leg speed).

One Percenters: Selfless acts by players such as smothers, knock-ons, shepherds, spoils, and chases which are often not recognised
in official statistics, but are invaluable to teams. Coaches extol their players to commit to putting in as many such efforts as possible
often saying they are the difference between winning and losing.

Ryan Gardner (The difference between winning and losing), get that on a business card big fella.

 

[Optimistic Dog]

Dale Morris, at a similar age to what Gardner is now, was shutting down Andrew McLeod in a midfield role in one of his first games.

From the moment he walked in he was demanding a spot based on some elite strengths and a work ethic that no-one at club, bar possibly Cross, matched. He had some obvious deficiencies, however he worked on them for hours per day (over and above training).

I'll admit i was weary of picking up Joel Hamling as good clubs rarely delist very good players. However similar to Morris, he was picked up reasonably young, doing very well at the next level down, had some elite attributes, and had many Geelong supporters totally perplexed as to why he never got a game. All of his early games with us showed heaps of promise.

What are Gardner's elite attributes? I don't know how the 1%er stat is worked out, but I could show you a dozen moments from the last two games where he's away from where he should be influencing/impacting the play. To me the lack of awareness is more troubling than the kicking/leg speed. Roberts was offloaded despite havimg a goid footy brain, being an excellent reader of the play and being an outstanding kick (though similar issues with leg speed).

I rate Gardner a poor man's Fletcher Roberts. We all know how limited Fletcher was but some how helped us win a flag to his credit.