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Thompson- brown
shaw-black

brown-thomas
harvey-jaensch

Bolded is a big worry
 
Those 'deft' taps;)

Does pods know it isn't a crime to chase your opponent out of the forward line? Someone must inform him. Jenkins seems to have read the same law

Tex chases his ass off, when he should really be the only one who doesn't chase because of his long lay off
Think you're aiming that at the wrong person, I've never brought up Pods deft taps.. ;)
Only that his performances while not being great have been nowhere near as bad as you've made out..

I don't think Pods should be in the team, I've said that.. He was a good move while we let Tex get his feet after his acl..
 
Hate is a strong word for Sammy shaw. We all want him to be a gun versatile defender, but let's face it, his left foot is his Achilles' heel.
He needs a lengthy wind up and needs to be able to have a several step run up in order to kick the ball.

Can't off-load a quick one-step kick and sometimes in defence you have to.

A few times he ran himself into trouble because he didn't have time to do his big long preparation. Kept trying to get clear enough so that he'd have more time available and it never happened.
 

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Talia-Petrie
Thompson- brown
shaw-black

brown-thomas
harvey-jaensch

Bolded is a big worry
Hmmm, big concern.

Perhaps play jj on petrie so Shaw & hendo can be dropped. Jj needs a defensive lesson.
 
Hmmm, big concern.

Perhaps play jj on petrie so Shaw & hendo can be dropped. Jj needs a defensive lesson.
play pods or jenkins on petrie. Even if petrie kicks 17, would be good to see those two actually chase an opponent for once
 
My changes:

Out: HENDERSON (the most obvious omission in club history), Grigg (omit - but only due to lack of match fitness caused by selection incompetence), L Thompson (omit), Mackay (inj)

In: Laird, Kerridge, S Thompson (if fit) / M Crouch (if Thommo unfit), L Johnston

People have been banging on about Shaw's poor game. He was far superior defensively to LT, who repeatedly gives his opponent too much bloody space, and can't lay a tackle to save his life. Shaw's kicking was poor, but was it any worse than Brad Crouch's disposal by hand or foot? I don't hear anyone mentioning this? At least Shaw actually hit a target at one point (the perfect lace out pass to Cameron which resulted in a goal). That's more than I can say for a few others. Also, kicking it out on the full is usually a vastly superior result to handballing it to nobody in front of the opposition goal (Jaensch did this at least once) or even hitting an opponent lace out on the chest in a central position (I lost count of how many of our players did this). Food for thought.

I fully expect Lyons to get axed, but I wouldn't do it.

I was all aboard the 'drop Wright' train before the Richmond game, but I thought he was one of about 5 blokes who actually played ok against the Tigers. The others were Talia, Walker, Podsiadly and Jacobs. Everyone else was pretty terrible in their own way for most of the night.

I'd like to see Dangerfield out of the side too. The last time he hit a target by foot with a kick on the run was bloody Round 6. Seriously, he's cooked and it's embarrassing to watch a champion devolve into a train wreck. It won't happen though so it's largely pointless even discussing it.

Team would look like this:

B: Brown Talia Shaw
HB: Smith Johnston Jaensch (with Laird playing as the 7th defender - yes Brenton, 7 DEFENDERS you ****ing goose)
C: B Crouch S Thompson Sloane
HF: Douglas Jenkins Cameron
F: Podsiadly Walker Betts
R: Jacobs Kerridge M Crouch
Int: Dangerfield, Wright, Laird
Sub: Lyons (sorry Jarryd but it's you or Wright, and Wright outplayed you on the weekend)

Keys to the game that the coaching box MUST get right (they got virtually nothing right against Richmond - I saw both of Smith and Shaw on Deledio at various times and nearly vomited):
1) Talia on Petrie (any other matchup and Sando is taking the piss)
2) Kerridge or Laird on Harvey (If he roams free we lose)
3) Brown on L Thomas (if anyone else goes to him, turn the TV off)
4) Shaw on Black (the definition of the perfect matchup for Shaw)
5) Play a 7th defender in order to free up Smith or Jaensch (nobody else in the squad can kick - you'd think the box would have worked out that this needs to happen every game)
6) Dangerfield up forward for 50% of the game
7) Jenkins to be repeatedly slapped in the face in the rooms before the game and threatened with violence unless he crashes some packs
8) Johnston on B Brown (hope for the best and potentially run off and create a bit)
9) Don't ignore Cunnington (Kerridge the logical option but as long as it isn't Thommo or Dangerfield I'm content)


I'm off to Europe on Wednesday so I won't see the game, but they are my thoughts. I'm really not too fussed over whether or not we make the 8, but I guess experiencing a final is a good thing for a young player and all that jazz. Amazingly, we'll still make the 8 if we win this game. Should be interesting.
 
mckernan>pods;)

those 'deft' taps. 3 touches after half time, says it all. Get someone in the team who can last a whole game

The one between his legs wasn't deft at all. It was just wet weather get the ball fwd stuff. It narrowly missed a 1:1 contest directly behind him before fortuitously making it to dmac.
 
We're working on it!

In reality some very ordinary teams will finish 6-8.

Apart from the first quarter Richmond were utterly dreadful as well.

This in spades. Richmond barely eeked out a win against a side running at 54% efficiency. I was there last night, and the amount of arsey snaps and us directly hand balling it to them was ridiculous. They were running at 90% DE for the first 10mins of the qtr. They should have absoutely pantsed us if they are that good.
 
Watching the replay.

Pods and Jenkins were both rubbish. Conditions hardly conducive to big forwards though.

I'd drop both of them, but I'd drop JJ first - Pods may not be up to it anymore, but at least he tries; Jenkins was flat out pathetic last night.

McKernan would bring more intensity - and that says it all.
 
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If we want to get any where as a club in the coming years we have to be brutal

Out
Shaw(Chant kick or handball for shit and his defence is poor)
wright(I don't know what role he plays but he makes no impact)
Lyons(as a tall midfielder he took one mark and generated no scores)
Henderson(yeansch and smith will break the lines he does nothing)
Jenkins( his attack on the ball in a one on one contested is atrocious besides our 4 tall forward line doesn't work in the wet and pods has done enough to keep his spot. For now)
Mackay(maybe? a shame he got injured hopefully he's ok he was one of few who could say they played decent until his injury of course)

In Crouch-Johnston-Thomson-rutten-kerridge-laird-

Johnson will play as tall back and a mobile forward who moves up the ground much like he did in the sanfl

Crouch and Thomson will play on ball as well as crouch 2 and sloane, if danger doesn't lift he gets dropped for a week, unless he gets injured then he can be forgiven.

Rutten to come in to contain their talls and jhonson to spend some time back as well.

Kerridge will do what he always does against the roos and laird will play a crucial tagging role on Harvey

Lineup

B Thomson talia laird
HB yeansch rutten smith
C dangerfield Thomson Martin
R jacobs Crouch Sloane
HF Kerridge Podsiadly Cameron
F Betts Walker Jhonson
I/C Douglas crouch Brown :Sub Grigg


Matchups

Thomson-brown
Rutten-black
talia-Petrie
Brown-Thomas

Laird-Harvey
 
Watching the replay.

Pods and Jenkins were both rubbish.

I'd drop both of them, but I'd drop JJ first - Pods may not be up to it anymore, but at least he tries; Jenkins was flat out pathetic last night.

McKernan would bring more intensity - and that says it all.
Would another big tall be wise for the wet conditions in Hobart surely lynch or jhonson should be chosen for their mobility
 

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If we want to get any where as a club in the coming years we have to be brutal

Out
Shaw(Chant kick or handball for shit and his defence is poor)
wright(I don't know what role he plays but he makes no impact)
Lyons(as a tall midfielder he took one mark and generated no scores)
Henderson(yeansch and smith will break the lines he does nothing)
Jenkins( his attack on the ball in a one on one contested is atrocious besides our 4 tall forward line doesn't work in the wet and pods has done enough to keep his spot. For now)
Mackay(maybe? a shame he got injured hopefully he's ok he was one of few who could say they played decent until his injury of course)

In Crouch-Johnston-Thomson-rutten-kerridge-laird-

Johnson will play as tall back and a mobile forward who moves up the ground much like he did in the sanfl

Crouch and Thomson will play on ball as well as crouch 2 and sloane, if danger doesn't lift he gets dropped for a week, unless he gets injured then he can be forgiven.

Rutten to come in to contain their talls and jhonson to spend some time back as well.

Kerridge will do what he always does against the roos and laird will play a crucial tagging role on Harvey

Lineup

B Thomson talia laird
HB yeansch rutten smith
C dangerfield Thomson Martin
R jacobs Crouch Sloane
HF Kerridge Podsiadly Cameron
F Betts Walker Jhonson
I/C Douglas crouch Brown :Sub Grigg


Matchups

Thomson-brown
Rutten-black
talia-Petrie
Brown-Thomas

Laird-Harvey
I don't know if Lyons is a "tall" midfielder.

B. Crouch, Dangerfield, Kerridge, Smith and VB are all taller.

Douglas had 1 Mark, B. Crouch had 2, Dangerfield 1, Sloane 2, Martin 1, Jenkins 2, Smith 2, Mackay 1.

Feel like the reason you judged him harshly is a bit skewed.

Danger scored a point, B. Crouch didn't, Douglas neither....... why judge Lyons on the same?
 
Thought he hadn't been ruled out? could he play with a small fracture?

If he plays again this season i'd be questioning the medical staff at Adelaide.. it's a neck injury, i wouldn't take any risks with it.

Lynch is an important player for the next 6-8 years, no harm in wrapping him in cotton wool now.
 
Anyone saying Lynch should play needs their head read. Seriously you must be drunk or stoned. Another collision with a cracked vertebrae...can of worms.

Have watched some not all of this indictment of stupid coaching, dumb decision making and players who just can't cut the mustard. Why we would go in with three talls on a wet night is beyond belief...should have made a late change....is Tassie going to be any better? 16 degrees and 40% of rain.

Problem is there are too many passengers, too many whose form from week to week is patchy at best. North is a must win, but cards need to be stamped or marked. More statements have to be made to these spuds who think what they put up on the weekend was anywhere near good enough.

Got to go with one less tall, its either Pods or JJ who has to go and I am tipping JJ as the only time he runs with any pace is when there is a chance of a goal.

His limp efforts need to be addressed. Send him back for the rest of the minor round. Breathing fire for the finals if we make it.
Dmac is a given out...once again how did this guy get 4 year contract??
Hendo...not a defenders jockstrap...too soft. Play him on the wing if you have to or not at all, but not as a defender...Sloane would be a better option.
Wright...can't kick from more than 40, too slow with his decision making...he can get the ball, but the consistency that he displayed in 2012 is gone.
Grigg does some good things and he has been worth his weight as the sub. Wright should be sub for the rest of the year if he plays at all.
Douglas hasn't regained his form and while he is playing a run with role, his decision making and skill level is not up to what it should be for a player of his experience. Run with role isn't helping either. Keeps his spot...just.
We have to get Danger out of the midfield for at least half of the game time, his field kicking is just woeful atm. Play him on the HFF or rotating to the goal square where he leads up at the ball.
Lyons...jury is out, but a wet game should have suited his elite in and under clearance skills...
Lukey T...can see why you have been playing SANFL all season. Unfortunately the cupboard is bare...either him or Shaw needs to go out.
Shaw. Until someone teaches him how to kick properly...not good enough.
Martin... has some tickets that keep him in the side, but prime option for sub this week.

Scotty T is an interesting one...they have given him a couple of weeks to be right for this game....big risk, but the season is shot so spin the wheel.

So...who to bring in...

The Kedge...as has been stated Norf are his beearches and we need his run with and goal kicking skills. Hard body, makes good decisions...tick...in for either Lyons or Wright.
Junior Crouch....seriously Sando if he doesn't get a game in cold wet Tasmania we might as well trade him...don't know what else the kid has to do to get another game...play him with his brother and sit back and listen to all the I told you so's. In for either JJ or Pods.
Thommo...in for Lyons or Wright...if he breaks down then its the season and possibly retirement.
Laird...played as a defender, not run with, not forward...DEFENDER.

Now case for getting rid of both Thompson and Shaw....we need a tall player who can kick...Lewis Johnson...while I agree his attitude and work rate border on carbon rod status, we need tall players at the back who can kick and put some body on their opponents...its either him or Siggins, or Kelly or dare I say it Smack. Edit..Smack is injured so we don't have to open that door.

The other option is to swing Pods to CHB for the game and leave JJ and Tex as the two tall forwards...Luke Thompson is saved for one more week and gets the third tall which he is more suited to with instructions to stick to him like his shadow. I am going to go with the Pods option for now, but LJ would be next on the list of options. Rutten is cooked. Sorry to say he shouldn't get another game for the AFL side.

Do we make a statement and drop Douglas for Atkins or another young buck from the state side? Probably not. 4 changes are the most we could hope for. Depends if Sando has the balls to do it with such a finals like game away from home?

Out: Mackay, Wright, Lyons, Shaw
In: Kerridge, M Crouch, S Thompson, Laird

B Brown Talia Laird
HB Jaensch Pods? Sloane
C Smith B Crouch Henderson
HF Dangerfield Walker Douglas
F Betts Jenkins Cameron
R Jacobs Kerridge S Thompson

I M Crouch, L Thompson, Martin or Grigg sub

Edit. Also would play a 7 man backline with either Smith or Hendo as the loose man with instructions to play on and run the ball as much as possible.
 
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Anyone saying Lynch should play needs their head read. Seriously you must be drunk or stoned. Another collision with a cracked vertebrae...can of worms.

Have watched some not all of this indictment of stupid coaching, dumb decision making and players who just can't cut the mustard. Why we would go in with three talls on a wet night is beyond belief...should have made a late change....is Tassie going to be any better? 16 degrees and 40% of rain.

Problem is there are too many passengers, too many whose form from week to week is patchy at best. North is a must win, but cards need to be stamped or marked. More statements have to be made to these spuds who think what they put up on the weekend was anywhere near good enough.

Got to go with one less tall, its either Pods or JJ who has to go and I am tipping JJ as the only time he runs with any pace is when there is a chance of a goal.

His limp efforts need to be addressed. Send him back for the rest of the minor round. Breathing fire for the finals if we make it.
Dmac is a given out...once again how did this guy get 4 year contract??
Hendo...not a defenders jockstrap...too soft. Play him on the wing if you have to or not at all, but not as a defender...Sloane would be a better option.
Wright...can't kick from more than 40, too slow with his decision making...he can get the ball, but the consistency that he displayed in 2012 is gone.
Grigg does some good things and he has been worth his weight as the sub. Wright should be sub for the rest of the year if he plays at all.
Douglas hasn't regained his form and while he is playing a run with role, his decision making and skill level is not up to what it should be for a player of his experience. Run with role isn't helping either. Keeps his spot...just.
We have to get Danger out of the midfield for at least half of the game time, his field kicking is just woeful atm. Play him on the HFF or rotating to the goal square where he leads up at the ball.
Lyons...jury is out, but a wet game should have suited his elite in and under clearance skills...
Lukey T...can see why you have been playing SANFL all season. Unfortunately the cupboard is bare...either him or Shaw needs to go out.
Shaw. Until someone teaches him how to kick properly...not good enough.
Martin... has some tickets that keep him in the side, but prime option for sub this week.

Scotty T is an interesting one...they have given him a couple of weeks to be right for this game....big risk, but the season is shot so spin the wheel.

So...who to bring in...

The Kedge...as has been stated Norf are his beearches and we need his run with and goal kicking skills. Hard body, makes good decisions...tick...in for either Lyons or Wright.
Junior Crouch....seriously Sando if he doesn't get a game in cold wet Tasmania we might as well trade him...don't know what else the kid has to do to get another game...play him with his brother and sit back and listen to all the I told you so's. In for either JJ or Pods.
Thommo...in for Lyons or Wright...if he breaks down then its the season and possibly retirement.
Laird...played as a defender, not run with, not forward...DEFENDER.

Now case for getting rid of both Thompson and Shaw....we need a tall player who can kick...Lewis Johnson...while I agree his attitude and work rate border on carbon rod status, we need tall players at the back who can kick and put some body on their opponents...its either him or Siggins, or Kelly or dare I say it Smack.

The other option is to swing Pods to CHB for the game and leave JJ and Tex as the two tall forwards...Luke Thompson is saved for one more week and gets the third tall which he is more suited to with instructions to stick to him like his shadow. I am going to go with the Pods option for now, but LJ would be next on the list of options. Rutten is cooked. Sorry to say he shouldn't get another game for the AFL side.

Do we make a statement and drop Douglas for Atkins or another young buck from the state side? Probably not. 4 changes are the most we could hope for. Depends if Sando has the balls to do it with such a finals like game away from home?

Out: Mackay, Wright, Lyons, Shaw
In: Kerridge, M Crouch, S Thompson, Laird

B Brown Talia Laird
HB Jaensch Pods? Sloane
C Smith B Crouch Henderson
HF Dangerfield Walker Douglas
F Betts Jenkins Cameron
R Jacobs Kerridge S Thompson

I M Crouch, L Thompson, Martin or Grigg sub
Like all your reasonings and can see merit in your changes but do you think having Brown, Laird and Jaensch in the back line makes us too small?
 

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Anyone saying Lynch should play needs their head read. Seriously you must be drunk or stoned. Another collision with a cracked vertebrae...can of worms.

Have watched some not all of this indictment of stupid coaching, dumb decision making and players who just can't cut the mustard. Why we would go in with three talls on a wet night is beyond belief...should have made a late change....is Tassie going to be any better? 16 degrees and 40% of rain.

Problem is there are too many passengers, too many whose form from week to week is patchy at best. North is a must win, but cards need to be stamped or marked. More statements have to be made to these spuds who think what they put up on the weekend was anywhere near good enough.

Got to go with one less tall, its either Pods or JJ who has to go and I am tipping JJ as the only time he runs with any pace is when there is a chance of a goal.

His limp efforts need to be addressed. Send him back for the rest of the minor round. Breathing fire for the finals if we make it.
Dmac is a given out...once again how did this guy get 4 year contract??
Hendo...not a defenders jockstrap...too soft. Play him on the wing if you have to or not at all, but not as a defender...Sloane would be a better option.
Wright...can't kick from more than 40, too slow with his decision making...he can get the ball, but the consistency that he displayed in 2012 is gone.
Grigg does some good things and he has been worth his weight as the sub. Wright should be sub for the rest of the year if he plays at all.
Douglas hasn't regained his form and while he is playing a run with role, his decision making and skill level is not up to what it should be for a player of his experience. Run with role isn't helping either. Keeps his spot...just.
We have to get Danger out of the midfield for at least half of the game time, his field kicking is just woeful atm. Play him on the HFF or rotating to the goal square where he leads up at the ball.
Lyons...jury is out, but a wet game should have suited his elite in and under clearance skills...
Lukey T...can see why you have been playing SANFL all season. Unfortunately the cupboard is bare...either him or Shaw needs to go out.
Shaw. Until someone teaches him how to kick properly...not good enough.
Martin... has some tickets that keep him in the side, but prime option for sub this week.

Scotty T is an interesting one...they have given him a couple of weeks to be right for this game....big risk, but the season is shot so spin the wheel.

So...who to bring in...

The Kedge...as has been stated Norf are his beearches and we need his run with and goal kicking skills. Hard body, makes good decisions...tick...in for either Lyons or Wright.
Junior Crouch....seriously Sando if he doesn't get a game in cold wet Tasmania we might as well trade him...don't know what else the kid has to do to get another game...play him with his brother and sit back and listen to all the I told you so's. In for either JJ or Pods.
Thommo...in for Lyons or Wright...if he breaks down then its the season and possibly retirement.
Laird...played as a defender, not run with, not forward...DEFENDER.

Now case for getting rid of both Thompson and Shaw....we need a tall player who can kick...Lewis Johnson...while I agree his attitude and work rate border on carbon rod status, we need tall players at the back who can kick and put some body on their opponents...its either him or Siggins, or Kelly or dare I say it Smack.

The other option is to swing Pods to CHB for the game and leave JJ and Tex as the two tall forwards...Luke Thompson is saved for one more week and gets the third tall which he is more suited to with instructions to stick to him like his shadow. I am going to go with the Pods option for now, but LJ would be next on the list of options. Rutten is cooked. Sorry to say he shouldn't get another game for the AFL side.

Do we make a statement and drop Douglas for Atkins or another young buck from the state side? Probably not. 4 changes are the most we could hope for. Depends if Sando has the balls to do it with such a finals like game away from home?

Out: Mackay, Wright, Lyons, Shaw
In: Kerridge, M Crouch, S Thompson, Laird

B Brown Talia Laird
HB Jaensch Pods? Sloane
C Smith B Crouch Henderson
HF Dangerfield Walker Douglas
F Betts Jenkins Cameron
R Jacobs Kerridge S Thompson

I M Crouch, L Thompson, Martin or Grigg sub
Sensational post!
Carbon rod status ROFL:D
 
So...who to bring in...

The Kedge...as has been stated Norf are his beearches and we need his run with and goal kicking skills. Hard body, makes good decisions...tick...in for either Lyons or Wright. Agreed
Junior Crouch....seriously Sando if he doesn't get a game in cold wet Tasmania we might as well trade him...don't know what else the kid has to do to get another game...play him with his brother and sit back and listen to all the I told you so's. In for either JJ or Pods. Agreed. Comes in for Mackay.
Thommo...in for Lyons or Wright...if he breaks down then its the season and possibly retirement. Wright out - too vanilla.
Laird...played as a defender, not run with, not forward...DEFENDER. Stick him on Harvey again...although Harvey got a lot of it last time, they weren't damaging touches.

Now case for getting rid of both Thompson and Shaw....we need a tall player who can kick...Lewis Johnson...while I agree his attitude and work rate border on carbon rod status, we need tall players at the back who can kick and put some body on their opponents...its either him or Siggins, or Kelly or dare I say it Smack. I liked what I saw of Siggins in particular on the weekend, and Kelly did some good things. I'd personally go with Siggins as he seems a bit bigger. LJ looked lost down back, and was outpointed a few times by undersized opponents - he's no upgrade on LT or Shaw in my view. Hendo would be another that is on shaky ground - seems to have no anticipation as to where the ball will go, and it looks as though he hears footsteps even when relatively in the clear.

Do we make a statement and drop Douglas for Atkins or another young buck from the state side? Probably not. 4 changes are the most we could hope for. Depends if Sando has the balls to do it with such a finals like game away from home? Atkins didn't play for the SANFL team on Saturday...is he injured or was he an emergency for the AFL team?

Out: Mackay, Wright, Lyons, Shaw (Hendo)
In: Kerridge, M Crouch, S Thompson, Laird Spot on. As you mentioned...play Pods down back if need be. I'd use Kerridge in the Lynch role, as he can take a grab and is a good disposer of the ball.

B Brown Talia Laird
HB Jaensch Pods? Shaw
C Smith B Crouch Sloane
HF Dangerfield Walker Grigg
F Betts Jenkins Cameron
R Jacobs Kerridge S Thompson

I M Crouch, L Thompson, Martin or Dougie sub
See bolded above...I'd give Shaw one more go, and drop Hendo. Sloane to wing, Shaw to half back, Dougie to sub, Danger and Kedge to interchange at half forward. I'd even consider JJ on bench to start with and a more conventional back line with LT starting at CHB, Pods at FF. Change it up if we're under the pump. Edit...only other consideration is Siggins for one of LT or Shaw....
 
See bolded above...I'd give Shaw one more go, and drop Hendo. Sloane to wing, Shaw to half back, Dougie to sub, Danger and Kedge to interchange at half forward. I'd even consider JJ on bench to start with and a more conventional back line with LT starting at CHB, Pods at FF. Change it up if we're under the pump. Edit...only other consideration is Siggins for one of LT or Shaw....

Sloane plays on the wing.
 
I think Kerridge is going to "fall down the stairs" pre game. ;)
 

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